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Hitchcock's Greatest Unsung Villain


Spoilers for "Saboteur" and "VERTIGO"

James Mason is probably the most famous spymaster in the Hitchcock canon. His urbane and villainous spymaster Philip Vandamm in "North by Northwest" is Cary Grant's near-match in handsome, smooth-voiced elegance,and Mason came with a certain menace that mattered.

But the villain of "Saboteur," Otto Kruger as Nazi-lovin' American magnate Charles Tobin, is one helluva great villain himself. He's a dry run for Vandamm in some ways, but significantly different in others: a homemade, All-American capitalistic fascist. Vandamm seemed to be a foreign visitor.

Hitchcock didn't want Otto Kruger for this role - indeed, Hitchcock couldn't get ANYBODY he wanted for the three leads -- he ended up with Bob Cummings instead of Henry Fonda or Gary Cooper, Priscilla Lane instead of Barbara Stanwyck.

For the villain, Hitchcock wanted actor Harry Carey, an All-American star of Weseterns and comedies (he's the sympathetic Vice President presiding over James Stewart's fillibuster in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington") but MRS. Carey wouldn't let her husband play pro-Nazi slime.

Otto Kruger, Hitchocck felt, looked "too sinister" for the part, too cliche. Perhaps -- but Kruger was sinister in a very specific, very interesting way.

Kruger SMILES a lot as Tobin, and when he smiles, his huge teeth give his skinny, sunken face the effect of a skull with skin on it. He's Mrs. Bates in the fruit cellar, 18 years early!

Tobin is also beautifully well-written. He's a very rich man, and so he comes to see Bob Cummings' Barry Kane as a total inferior -- the American working man, a lower class. Tobin always speaks to Kane with great politeness, but his contempt is always there, too.

It all comes together in that great, totally Hitchcockian scene, in which Tobin and Kane have a "verbal showdown" in the library of the New York mansion.

Hitchcock films Tobin at a heavy, formal distance,with an American eagle flag overhead and, as I recall, lamps on all sides of him. Barry Kane looks at his foe, and is closer, a warmer human presence.

Here's the trick: Tobin has all the better lines. Better written, more articulate, more "logical." Tobin hates "the moron masses" of America (that phrase, "moron masses" -- was HITCHCOCK'S phrase, privately used with friends). And as a simple business consideration, Tobin believes that the totalitarian nations run better, more profitable countries. Tobin is a rich man who looks to get richer. And he wants power -- he's rather like John Huston's Noah Cross in "Chinatown." Being rich ISN'T enough.

Barry Kane is just an "Average Joe" and he tells Tobin that Americans will fight the Nazis "til the cows come home." This prosaic dialogue MATTERED in 1942, because the audience for "Saboteur" was a lot of Average Joes, and Average Janes, and they knew that Barry Kane stood up for their values and their decency.

Charles Tobin, with his heavy-lidded reptilian eyes and skull-faced grin, is so arrogant and oily you want to reach into the screen and kill him with your bare hands...

...but Hitchcock never accounts for him at film's end. Like the more famous "Hitchcock villain who gets away" (Gavin Elster in "Vertigo"), Charles Tobin seems to just "disappear" from the movie. It is the rodentoid sub-villain, Fry (Norman Lloyd) who falls off the Statue of Liberty.

Most curious.

Tobin himself tells Barry Kane that he's prepared to run and hide with his money in the Caribbean if the Americans beat the Nazis. Ever pragmatic, he sees his backing of the Nazis, if wrong, simply as a business deal gone bad, a bet lost.

I wonder if Hitchcock considered a sequel to "Saboteur," with Kane chasing Tobin into the Carribean?

In any event, Otto Kruger's Charles Tobin is a great, well-written, well-acted villain with two typical Hitchcockian traits: he LOOKS interesting, and he's got some of the best lines in the movie.


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I don't think Hitchcock considered a sequel for Saboteur.

I thought Robert Cummings did a really good job playing the role of Barry Kane. I thought Otto Krueger's performance was interesting. Most interesting part was "James Bond style theme" in the movie. The theme was used in the scene where Pat takes Barry Kane to blacksmith.

I also heard that Hitchcock wanted Joan Fontaine to play Priscilla Lane's role. But David Selznick refused for the second time to loan Joan Fontaine. I think the same thing applies to Foreign Correspondent where David Selznick refused to loan Joan Fontaine. So Hitchcock got Laraine Day for the role.

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I suppose I was being glib in suggesting a "Saboteur" sequel. Hitchcock didn't do sequels. Might have been pretty exciting if he did: "Psycho II?" BY Hitchcock? How about "South by Southwest" with a climax in the Grand Canyon?

Still, it seems to me that Kruger's villain is unaccounted for at the end.

Cummings is OK in the lead of "Saboteur," but then, as now, there's a problem when a major star isn't in the lead. With Gary Cooper or Henry Fonda in the part (each sought by Hitch), "Saboteur" would have been "A-list." With Cummings, it has the feeling of a "B."

Hadn't heard that about Joan Fontaine for the two WWII thrillers. Too bad. Both of those roles were a bit more "spirited and light" than the repressed characters she had to play in "Rebecca" and "Suspicion."

I've read Hitchcock wanted Claudette Colbert for "Foreign Correspondent" and Barbara Stanwyck for "Saboteur."

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Anyone who calls someone a capitalist and a fascist in the same breath must be
one of the scores of non-thinking drones we disgorge from our government-
sponsored school system that has nothing but disciples of the new left doing
mindless assembly-line work much like the public-school teachers in nazi
Germany.

"Could be worse."
"Howwww?"
"Could be raining."

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Looks like you didn't get much of a response to a very astute comment. The replies are a mix of literal-mindedness and Rush Limbaugh nuttery.

Just letting you know that someone out here appreciated your insight. I saw the film last night (for the first time, shockingly enough) and I was shouting at my television for Cummings to flatten Kruger's nose. Skull-faced, arrogant and oily indeed -- and it didn't occur to me until you pointed it out that we never see him punished.

His smile when he makes the crack about the handcuffs to his granddaughter is particularly creepy.

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Kruger's performance as Tobin is indeed one of the most scariest of Hitchcock villains and just like Elster he gets away with it.

It's actually pretty amazing that this got through the filters in force at that time. One of the reasons which makes Saboteur a very interesting thriller(although not a masterpiece).

Ever pragmatic, he sees his backing of the Nazis, if wrong, simply as a business deal gone bad, a bet lost.

Which is deadly accurate regarding many American businessman who worked with Nazi businessman before and during the war. They never got caught. The most famous is Henry Ford who had a Ford factory running in Germany during the war and which amazingly was still standing after 1945 when most of Berlin was pummelled.


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Bump.

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Three years later, Kruger played pretty much the same oily character, only renamed Jules Amthor, in Murder My Sweet.

The year before Saboteur, in All Through the Night, Humphrey Bogart encountered a similar suave Nazi spy played by Conrad Veidt who was plotting to blow up a battleship in NY harbor.

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Why do we get all you mouthy little communists on this board?

"Could be worse."
"Howwww?"
"Could be raining."

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I agree Otto Kruger was great in the role.

He is rich and condescending and completely full of himself. I thought he was the right actor.

I think Hitchcock was right about Bob Cummings.

He got the part after several actors turned down the role.

Bob Cummings is a competent performer but he is more suited for light comedy than the role of the innocent American set up to take the fall for sabotage then pursuing the gang and bringing them down.

A manlier actor would have been more suitable. I think William Holden would have been good as Barry.

Ronald Reagan who was in the excellent Kings Row about the same time with Bob Cummings would have been better cast as Barry also.

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