Colorized version?


This is one of my favorite classic Hollywood movies. I saw it listed on Wikipedia as one of the old black-and-white films that has been colorized. I know film purists are vehemently opposed to colorization of black-and-white movies, and in most cases I would agree. However, I would love to see The Philadelphia Story in color, if only to admire Hepburn's lustrous locks (Her character's pet name is "Red," after all).

The only 2 versions of the DVD I can find are both in black-and-white...has the color version ever been officially released, or just shown on TV (on TCM or a similar station)?

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I would love to see The Philadelphia Story in color, if only to admire Hepburn's lustrous locks (Her character's pet name is "Red," after all).

You do realize that "colorized", no matter *how* good the process, and "in color" are very different things.

In no colorized version of anything will you ever see "Hepburn's lustrous locks".


Going a step further .....

In no colorized version of anything, no matter how good the process, will you *ever* see "what the movie would have looked like in color".

Every *competent* film maker and technician (much less the truly good ones) makes all of their choices based on how they will look on the film stock that they are using. If they had been using color film, all of the costume designs, set designs, make up jobs, etc. would have been done differently.

One quick example:
The creature make up on Boris Karloff in Frankenstein was done in that shade of green (which can be seen in some color still photos taken on the set) specifically because it would come out looking a deathly pasty white on the B & W that they were using. NOT because anyone ever intended for the Creature actually to BE green.

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I knew the B&W purists would jump all over me. *sigh* I just meant that I'd like to see the film in *non-B&W tones*. Sheesh...forget I asked!

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My point was simply that you would not see what you said you would like to see in a colorized version, namely what Hepburn's hair would have looked like in color.

The secondary point was to point that "what it would look like in color" and "coloized" are two very different things, in general.

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Not sure if you picked up a copy yet, but there are 2 for sale on Ebay right now. BTW, I have the colorized versions of King Kong, San Francisco & Invasion of the Body Snatchers. They dont detract from the original, and are kind of cool to see in the Crayola version. While some of the colorized movies do look hideous, it makes you wonder if they would have been shot in color if they had the budget, like for instance King Kong. I have screen grabs for 2 of the films here, if you are at all interested:

http://www.jimusnr.com/sfcolorized.html

http://www.jimusnr.com/Bodysnatcherscolorized.html

Good luck and enjoy.

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it makes you wonder if they would have been shot in color if they had the budget, like for instance King Kong

In the specific case of Kong, I doubt it.

Given the F/X and film printing technology of the early 1930s, I think that shooting everything on actual color film would have tended to create more noticeable mismatches between the "normal" shots and F/X shots, and among the various layers within many of the F/X shots. Black & white simplified all of that matching of the "look" of pieces of film that were actually shot under different conditions.
(Edit to add: They were already developing / inventing so many new techniques and technologies for F/X on that movie, I doubt that they would have wanted to add the extra difficulties that color would have created for them.)


Certainly there were a lot of other movies where directors / studios would have shot in color if money (and availability of equipment) were no issue. However, that choice would have cascaded into different choices in almost every other visual element; set design, lighting, costumes, etc.

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Friend, there's someone you need to talk to on the It's a Wonderful Life boards (thread 'Is it time to start showing the colourised version'). I was almost in tears of frustration trying to explain this. They just can't seem to get it.

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The work stand on its own--it needs no "colorization," such nonsense . . .

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I'm actually watching it right now on TCM and it's in full black and white. So it might not even be shown on TV. It is also very possible that Wikipedia is incorrect.

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There was a colorized version of TPS made. I've seen it and believe me it looked terrible.

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really?

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I saw a colourised version of Pride and Prejudice 1940 on TV one time, I don't know the channel, but it was quite interesting, particularly seeing the colours they used for the different dresses.

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The "Colorization Police" never rest!

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