NOT IN THE IMDB 250???

People may just not be into those oldie films anymore. I didn't really like it. I hated Spiderman and all them too, but I'd still vote them first.

Snatch is good.

Hey, note that a lot of classics are not in the top 250, and there are more deserving canidates than this one. Breakfast At Tiffany's? Hello!?

Die Hard is a classic action movie.

America isnt ready for a gay mexican chicken sandwich - Poultrygeist

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This movie was nominated for seven Academy Awards, and won the Best Supporting Actor Award in 1939. It's a great film, and I gave it a 10.

IF I had to go to a desert island and could only take ten black and white videos with me (plus a television, VCR and power to run them) I would definitely have Stagecoach as one of them. It's like a classical painting, even if I've got it on DVD and video, if it comes around on the television, I'll just HAVE to sit and watch it!!

" it's terrible but true that people will watch crappy movies because they are new but won't watch good movies just because they are old."

This is why I dropped HBO many years ago. They used to run these really crappy movies 5 or 6 times a week just because they were new. I would much rather watch a good movie that was a couple of years old than a crappy new straight to video release.

^ That kind of thing is almost depressingly sad. I'm 27 and have always known that age is irrelevant; I seek out quality. I deliberately try a great variety of things to find the ones I like best. Many, many exceptional and timelessly enjoyable films (and TV shows, music, and other things) were made in the 40s-70s. The 80s & 90s I see as a real golden age for film and television, but to assume that older or black-and-white ones must be boring or "only good for old people" is ridiculous. And it's the person's own great loss. I've had to reach the conclusion that most great things, already exist...surely there are still more wonderful works that do need to be made, but more often than not I'm sure they will be inspired by or very similar to extant ones in many ways.
It's just as easy to catch a great film on Turner Classic as it is to gobble up (and then forget about) whatever they're trying to take your money with now.

Anyway...I saw this film in college and loved it enough to list it amongst my (maaaaany) 'favorite films.' It should be in the Top 250, but that list means little, really. It must shift constantly as ratings increase or decrease slightly based on viewers' votes. Overhyped and promoted but undeserving movies will get on there, while ultimately all-time worthy ones such as this just lack the votes. People may have seen it, but not thought to give it a rating.

🐩 Power!

Your post of 10 years ago ...

Things have not changed. Maybe they worsened?
I dunno about the ranking of Stagecoach in our days, 2015, but cinema as it used to be is a dead as a door nail.
I might make enemies, but I don't care: For me Apocalypse Now and Jurassic Park were large turning points (door nails). Film used to have quite a different 'flavour'; not the 'realistic and even hyper-realist' of splatting blood all over, beating people up and show all details. There used to be a time when someone was shot or dead without witnessing the complete ordeal. Just knowing, that's often enough the better alternative. What's wrong with black and white, by the way? Nothing at all!
Probably I make even more enemies when, in a thread on Stagecoach, I mention that I am no huge fan of John Ford. He doesn't click with me. On the other hand, this is even more sordid: I am no big fan of John Ford, and yet I think that Stagecoach has 'mothered' hundreds of film, if not begotten a whole genre. Stagecoach is one of few Western that show a real, and partially amazing development and characterization throughout the movie, mostly on the passengers of that stagecoach. Therefore, in any serious evaluation, it does belong to the top 250 movies.
Though I am afraid that many in here can not appreciate the original concept of 'film'. A typical indicator is the term 'dated'. What does that mean in an art? Bach is 'dated', so is Mozart. Shakespeare is 'dated', even the Beatles are 'dated'. What would this characterization contribute? Nothing, as far as I am concerned. There was a time when movies used to come with non-HD resolution, and in black and white. So what? Is any such movie any inferior to one in colours? Hardly imaginable. Different, yes.
Nosferatu in black and white is different from the one with Kinski. Worse? Because of the 'lack' of colours? Come on ...!

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