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I saw this movie just yesterday and i thought it was excellent. it really deserved best picture of the year. so i thought, "hey, this must have gotten a high rating on imdb". i looked up cimarron and i was shocked to find that it was rated a 6.2!!!!!!!!!!! this movie is way underrated. what do u guys think?

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I really liked it too. Out of all the Best Picture winners, this and Cavalcade (1933) are hardly seen or heard of today, and considered therefore considered "dated" mostly by people who haven't seen them.

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The film has aged quite badly and it's lacking the any sort of real dramatic fire to propel it forwards. Richard Dix's performance is hammy in the extreme and never quite convincing. In fact I suspect from what I've seen of his, he was never a very good actor to begin with. I'd be more inclined to believe that the only reason this film works as grand entertainment is due to the source material rather than what the filmmakers have actually brought to it. It's an incredible story satisfactorily told, nothing more.

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I wholeheartedly disagree. I watched it last night for the first time and must say I was shocked on how well it aged actually, and how emotionally involved I got through the whole thing. Like the original poster, I was shocked to see it at a meager 6.2 rating. I know it was a big hit for me.

Few weeks ago I finished watching the whole Top 250, and now going through Oscar winners. I must say that, so far, the worst movie to ever win the Best Movie Academy Award in my opinion was "The Broadway Melody (1929)". What an irritating bore :-O

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I must say that, so far, the worst movie to ever win the Best Movie Academy Award in my opinion was "The Broadway Melody (1929)". What an irritating bore :-O


To me, this above honor has no competition at all: Shakespeare in Love. And I'm being serious when I say this-they should have honestly issued drug tests to those who voted for that piece of filth over the masterpiece Saving Private Ryan...alas, I digress. I can sum up SIL in this brief sentence: Two nauseating hours of Willy and his little damsel crafting a play together and, at each moment of overcoming writers' block, they hit the sack. *snore* (at least many of Shakespare's plays wound up on the silver screen as true masterpieces, as in Laurence Olivier's version of "Hamlet")

On to Cimarron. While it is not the worst ever Best Picture Oscar winner, I hardly consider it the top one either (or even in the top, let's say, 25). To me, the story fell flat at many areas to the point where the film itself aired in the background as I watched the time tick down, asking when it finally concluded. My guess is the plot itself is one I've seen done to death in various entertainment mediums and then combined with my reluctance to watch western style films (on the other hand, ones such as Unforgiven I consider quite entertaining so I'm not completely anti western film). The acting seemed fine, for the most part, but lacked a real strong story, along with its inability to fully flesh out the characters.

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I'm not a gynecologist but I will take a look.

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Two of my favourite films: Both with Sadly underrated Actors. CAVALCADE seems to be especially scorned. It's sad, because we wouldn't be applauding programs like DOWNTON ABBEY, if they weren't inspired by memories of CAVALCADE. And who could Possibly be interested in something like CIMARRON? After all, the leading players are "old", and not "hot". No matter that actors like Dix and Dunne often spent upwards of TEN years learning their craft. It also takes real talent to act without benefit of airbrush makeup and CGI.

Personally, I'd like to see an honest, interesting story, with actors in their 50s, rather than be subjected to a 20 something whose 'talent' is in her silicone implants.









I do hope he won't upset Henry...

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It's the lowest rating for a 'Best Picture Winner' on imdb.

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I enjoyed it, perhaps because when watching it I viewed it from a "developmental" aspect. Apart from seeing Richard Dix and a promising Irene Dunne, I watched the film to be entertained by the progress in Oklahoma that takes place through the course of the film. It was also worth finding out whether Yancy would come back at the end or not... Overall it's mighty stuff! I enjoyed the film and will probably watch it again! :)

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It seems that the theme of the film meanders quite a bit. That sort of thing loses alot of people. For a while, you think it's a story about Yancy & his crusades to develop a community, but then it kind of morphs into a story about Sabra enduring his wanderlust & holding down the fort. It would have done better in our modern demands, I think, if it declared & stuck to a theme.

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People like to talk about how out of touch the Academy is today, but in 1931 they were even worse. They voted this snoozefest best picture and didn't even nominate Chaplin's "City Lights," James Whales' "Frankenstein" or Josev Von Sternberg's "Morocco."

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It seems that the theme of the film meanders quite a bit. That sort of thing loses alot of people. For a while, you think it's a story about Yancy & his crusades to develop a community, but then it kind of morphs into a story about Sabra enduring his wanderlust & holding down the fort. It would have done better in our modern demands, I think, if it declared & stuck to a theme.


Precisely my biggest beef. What really is the central focus to this story? Yancey's ambitions to create the newspaper or Sabra's hardships in dealing with his absence from the household? It's hard to tell since, to me, they seemed to be isolated instead of interwoven together.

For example, Gone With the Wind connected all its themes in the most magnificent way of any motion picture I've ever seen: Rhett/Scarlett romance, the Civil War from a Confederate perspective, family drama especially with Bonnie Butler's death, and the relationships between the various Wilkes and O'Hara family members. For what seems to be every minute of the film, at least two of these themes and perhaps more I failed to list intersect to serve a point in advancing the story.



I'm not a gynecologist but I will take a look.

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I found this film all over the place as far as theme. It was really well done, but the 80 years since its filming and today have not been kind.

But I must say I was very pleasantly surprised by it. I purposely didn't researcdh the film before I saw it, and expected a "Western," not a "family drama." The Oklahoma Land Rush sequence was excellent and so was most everything else -- has anyone ever been better at playing The Long-Suffering Wife than Irene Dunne? -- so the plot was not at all what I expected.

The extras on the DVD I watched we a lot of fun, btw.

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I'm with you, I wasn't expecting much when I saw it, but I was gratefuly surprised. I think this was a poor year for films, the Great Depression had a great impact on cinematography, actually, its the only Best Picture winner which lost at the box office. I've seen the other nominees from this year and I think Cimarron is the best of them.

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People for the most part are sheep. When it comes to cultural appraisal it is commonplace for things to make it into the 'canon' because some lofty critics decided its worth, and then it stays because few people have the courage and honesty to call it out.

Sometimes, by contrast, something like this movie has no champions, no one to give it a considered value and the snipers find it an easy target. Their loss.

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People for the most part are sheep. When it comes to cultural appraisal it is commonplace for things to make it into the 'canon' because some lofty critics decided its worth, and then it stays because few people have the courage and honesty to call it out.

Sometimes, by contrast, something like this movie has no champions, no one to give it a considered value and the snipers find it an easy target. Their loss.

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