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Why Isn't He In Prison?


If he lived in any other country in the world, he'd be brought to justice. America has an ongoing legacy of protecting WASP White Supremacist scum like this man.

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You need to break the law to be in prison. Except Vile Rottenlouse did and he's free and a hero to the far right.

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You have contradicted your own self. It is precisely because Rittenhouse broke no laws that he is free.

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You're wrong.
He was found not guilty. He wasn't found innocent. Learn the difference.

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Are you contending that he actually did break laws but was found not guilty of breaking them?

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Insert 'mind blown' meme.

Serious mental gymnastics bro.

He was presumed innocent and remained innocent.

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You're ignorant about the American justice system. He was found not guilty. That's not the same.

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From the dictionary:

Not guilty
innocent, especially of a formal charge.

Just because your education requires you to politically motivate yourself to the point of tears, doesn't mean you have an actual clue about reality.

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LOL! Still wrong.

This isn't rocket science.

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Don't bother with Komrade Keeloid. She's a confirmed liar who said I made racist posts and slunk away like a coward when asked for proof.

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I feel bad that there is no hope for these people.

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You obviously didn't watch the footage. Anyone with even one brain cell knows it was obviously self defense.

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Damn you are a fkn idiot.

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For what? He didn’t burn down cities last summer like a certain group of people

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Exactly.

What laws has Spencer broken? Being an asshole is not against the law.

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what makes him an asshole?

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Watch his interviews and you'll know.

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No, you must tell me, why you think he's an asshole.

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I already told you, watch his interviews and you'll know.

But here's a hint: He's haughty, inconsiderate, and does not speak in a spirit of kindness and love.

He could actually hold the views that he holds and not be a dick about it. But he decided to hold those views AND be a dick about it.

That's why he's an asshole.

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No, you must tell me, why you think he's an asshole. I can't tell me, why you think he's an asshole.

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I just told you. I mean, what else do you want?

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He's obviously a fan if he's defending him so much.

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No, you didn't, you changed your post!

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JohnnyDoe is a strange bird. Sometimes his posts just repeat things said directly prior or randomly emphasize a word in bold or italics. It’s a little like conversing with Rain Man.

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The problem is, leftists don't listen to reason and one gets tired of being nice to them. It does no good.

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In your world, killing people isn't so bad. You sound like a psychopath.

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Who kills people? Dozens of people died in BLM riots last year incited by the media lies.

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Dozens? You're the liar!

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests

25 dead. That’s technically dozens.

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You're counting right-wing gun nuts and vehicle-ramming attacks killing BLM marchers!

"Some initial acts of property destruction on May 27 by a 32-year-old man with ties to white supremacist organizations"

"Right-wing extremists are turning cars into weapons, with reports of at least 50 vehicle-ramming incidents since protests against police violence erupted nationwide in late May."

Funny how everything is quiet since your rabble-rousing wanna-be dictator Trump has left office. He caused that coup attempt at the Capitol with your fellow cultists, too!

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The media calls everyone who is against BLM rioting a "White supremacist". That term has become a joke. The BLM started those riots, not right wing. My point stands.

In any case even if those reports of people ramming into BLM rioters with cars are true, THEY DESERVE IT. Because if you are blocking traffic and looting based on a TOTALLY UNJUSTIFIED CAUSE like BLM, you deserve to get ran over by a car.

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You already identified yourself as a white supremacist in a previous post when you supported their ideology. It's too late for you to hide now.

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I do not wish to oppress anyone. Blacks have a right to self determination like Whites or anyone else. My views are not immoral. It's YOUR views which are immoral because you allow self determination to EVERYONE EXCEPT WHTIES. Who is the real oppressor?

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You mean separation of Whites and Blacks which is white supremacist ideology. Should marriage between the two be illegal?

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Whites and Blacks were separated for 70.000 years before coming in contact with each other. They only started living together after some rich people (both White and Black) wanted to make money. In my country there are virtually no Blacks and nobody calls that racism. Multiracial societies cause problems as sociological studies and real world examples clearly show. Black separatists want racial separation and nobody calls them White supremacists.

Not illegal, but discouraged. Interracial marriage has noted problems the mainstream media doesn't want you to know about.

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What country do you live in? What problems do you have with interracial marriages?

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Slovenia. There are some problems with it. It shouldn't be illegal and people who engage in it shouldn't be discriminated, but it shouldn't be celebrated and glorified.

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If only you realise what the Nazis did to your people.

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White advocate =/= Nazi. Nazis were into a lot of pseudo science. Western scientist at the time who were very much racial realists strongly condemned the garbage going on in German anthropology under Nazis. They were into occult and hyperboreanism etc.

It's ironic that people who have the same views as people who defeated the Nazis (White nationalists) are being called Nazis. America, Britain and France back then were all White nationalists by today's standard.

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Blacks and whites share the same ancestry. The first Europeans had dark skin.

Yugoslavia tore itself apart in a civil war even though you are all white.

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That is not true. Blacks (Subsaharan Africans) are on a totally different branch than the rest of humanity. The fist divide of humans was into Africans and non Africans. They are about twice genetically different from Whites than East Asians.

The very first split was into "Afrikaner" (Africans) and "Nich-Afrikaner" (non Africans):
https://i.postimg.cc/NMfrw2PG/Menschlicher-Populationsstammbaum.png

Yes that's precisely my point. Even ethnicity differences can cause conflict, much less race (which is much more than ethnicity). Just look at what's happening in America, cities burning, thousands of racial discrimination law suits filed each year, the country is more segregated than in the 1960s...identity politics everywhere you look despite the fact that Whites were conditioned to radically change their views on race than the had in the past. If it wasn't for leftist media academia holding that house of cards together, it would collapse a long time ago. Blacks and Whites are too different.

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"Blacks (Subsaharan Africans) are on a totally different branch than the rest of humanity."

Deny being a racist, again.

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Nope. "Rest of humanity" implies there are part of that humanity. If I said "they are different from humanity" than that would imply they are not part of humanity. In any case, do you deny the data on the map I posted?

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"Blacks (Subsaharan Africans) are on a totally different branch than the rest of humanity."

You consider Black people subhuman. I understood your brand of racism and white supremacy the first time.

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Dude are really that retarded? You implied Whites and Blacks are genetically very similar with your previous post. I replied with mainstream population genetics data showing they are not. I only replied to your false claims.

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"Blacks (Subsaharan Africans) are on a totally different branch than the rest of humanity."

You own it!

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Everything is quiet because BLM are only let loose when a Republican is in office. They’re The Democratic Party’s street goons.

Speaking of vehicle ramming attacks...it’s BLM that does them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waukesha_parade_attack

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Your white supremacist pals mass murdered innocents as they prayed in multiple houses of worship and then credited Trump as their motivation and leader.

Other white supremacists and cultists smashed their way into the Capitol in attempt to overthrow democracy. They repeatedly said that they were only following Trump's orders.

You need to take responsibility for your own anti-American behavior.

There is calm because Biden is working for ALL Americans. Notice how Trump had to be banned from many social media platforms because he incited violence.

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And Spencer masterminded all of that?

Biden is doing what? Lol

Watch the all people he’s working For have a say in 2022 lol

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I'm enjoying the peace and quiet that comes from a normal presidency.

You should send your neo-Nazi hero Spencer some money in order to pay the $26 million in damages he and his fellow white supremacists must pay.

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Well of course. The terrorists are controlled by the party currently in charge. Obviously there’s going to be “peace.”

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Yes, the FBI has arrested over 650 Trumpite terrorists who are finally under control form their Jan. 6th attempted coup.

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They’ll be out by 2024 lol

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Domestic terrorists who beat-up cops, trashed the Capitol and tried to overthrow democracy makes you cultists happy. Very un-American of you to not want to protect democracy and the rule of law.

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Yawn

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Trespassers who didn't destroy anything or kill anybody are domestic terrorists, yet BLM thugs who burned down hundreds of building, businesses, cars and killed dozens of people are not?

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Wikipedia calls it protests instead of riots. Hahahaha

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SHOW EVIDENCE IF YOU WANT SOMEONE IN PRISON

That is how the world works.

Everything else is propaganda.

Happy Thanksgiving

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Why aren't you in prison for Felony Trolling?

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Sending someone to prison for disagreeing with them politically. I suggest you move to North Korea. You do not belong in a democracy.

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Trump identified with the vile neo-Nazi Spencer which is the reason no federal charges were filed after Spencer incited the violence that ended with the murder of a woman.

Recently, a court found Spencer & cohorts liable for $25 million dollars. Bankrupt him and his organization for their criminal activities.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59355019

"The defendants were found liable in four out of six counts over the bloodshed at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

The civil lawsuit was filed by nine people who suffered physical or emotional injuries in the rally.

A woman was killed and dozens were hurt after an avowed neo-Nazi drove a car into counter-protesters.

In court, the jury awarded $500,000 in punitive damages against 12 defendants, and $1m against five white supremacist organisations. Punitive damages are awarded at a court's discretion to punish a defendant for conduct judged to be especially harmful.

A total of $12m in punitive damages was also imposed against the driver of the car in the fatal incident."

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Spencer isn't a Nazi. He's Alt Right. Learn the difference moron. Also Charlottsville was caused by leftist and police which failed to keep the two parties separate and protect the organizers who had a legal permission to be there.

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Neo-Nazi Spencer coined the term alt-right. His euphemism fools no one.

"Jews will replace us" chants. Nazi symbols. "Blood and Soil" chants. Nazi salutes. All at the Charlottesville from your friends.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5GzXY902hbo

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He's not a Neo Nazi. There were some Neo Nazis at Charlottesville, but Spencer isn't one. Just like there were some Communists among he counter protesters, but that doesn't mean all of them were. He never wore a Nazi swastika or gave a Nazi salute in his life. "Jews replace us" is a legitimate grievance. Jews push immigration.

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Richard Spencer says "Heil Trump!" while giving a Nazi salute:
https://youtu.be/1o6-bi3jlxk

You're in denial because you're a Nazi sympathizer. And obviously an anti-Semite.

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And that is the same because Trump equals Hitler right? Yeah those dirty illegal immigrants in 1930s Germany living off welfare. That is what got Hitler into power, right?

And he didn't give a Nazi salute, he just raised the glass. You know like people do when they propose a toast. In that room of 300 people, only three or four gave a Roman salute.

I'm not a Nazi neither an anti Semite. I'm just someone who doesn't like people being misrepresented by political bias. Just like I don't like people calling Bernie a Communist.

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You're already identified yourself as a white nationalist in your previous posts.

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So what? White nationalism simply means Whites having their own country. It is no more oppressive and immoral than Czechs having their own country. It is very different from Nazism. You are using this as an excuse because you can't argue my points.

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White nationalist is a euphemism for white supremacist. The term was created by white supremacists. The latest euphemism is alt-right created by Richard Spencer to try to rebrand his race hatred as mainstream.

I'll just call you a white supremacist so you don't get confused.

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Black nationalist is a euphemism for black supremacist.

I suggest you google it. Results like:

Nation of Islam, the UFO cult. Members assassinated MLK! Farrakhan is a neo-Nazi too.

Return of the Violent Black Nationalist https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2017/return-violent-black-nationalist

During a single month last year, America witnessed two of the most horrific shooting attacks against law enforcement in recent memory.

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No it's not it's totally different. Nationalism calls for creating your own nation. If Slovenians and Estonians weren't being "supremacists" when decided to split from Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union, then White nationalists aren't supremacists when they want to split from the USA. Separations not oppression. Denying someone sovereignty is oppression. Ironically, It's people like you who deny Whites their own nation that are doing the oppressing.

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You advocate Jim Crow which is white supremacism.

You mean the way Hitler wanted an Aryan nation without Jews? That's white supremacy and Nazism.

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Nope, I advocate sovereignty for all peoples. Malcolm X advocated the same thing.

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"White nationalism simply means Whites having their own country."

Then, Whites must leave the United States for Europe and return the Americas to the Indigenous peoples in order for them to regain their sovereignty which was taken from them?

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Perhaps. But by that logic all of Central Africans would have to leave to West Africa and give that region back to the pygmys. Black South Africans would have to move back and give that region back to the Bushmen. Arabs would have to move back to the Arab peninsula and give North Africa back to the Berbers. Half of Indians would have to move back to the North and give India back to the Dravidians. Interesting that this argument of "native land" is only used against White people and not everyone else. Hmmm, could it be because of anti European bias?

And suppose they would do that. What do you think would happen? The mestizo Hispanics of America would just follow them back to Europe, because America would become a poor country.

But, in all seriousness America could split up along racial lines.

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"But, in all seriousness America could split up along racial lines."

I'll humor you.

What if the family is racially mixed? Black mother, white father, biracial kids.

What about the hundreds of different ethnic groups? Would you separate white Puerto Ricans from black Puerto Ricans from Taino Puerto Ricans from racially-mixed? And what if they're in one nuclear family?

Why do you assume the same races would live together when that wasn't the situation in Yugoslavia? Europeans warred with each other for centuries? Ditto Africa. Ditto Middle East. And Asia.

Which is taking precedent: race or ethnicity or religion?

Who gets diversified places like New York City, California, Texas, Florida, etc.?

Just out of curiosity, have you heard the old Lincoln quote: A house divided among itself cannot stand?

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You're creating problems that don't exist. Once the political will would be there it wouldn't be difficult to figure out the minutiae. The country doesn't have to be 100% White.

In America what matters is race, not ethnicity. Europeans of different ethnicities intermixed with each other and there are no problems anymore.

America wouldn't be a single country anymore, but several different countries.

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I hope those white trash knuckleheads in that video were all identified and were fired from their jobs. Although something tells me, most of them didn't even work.

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Actually it seems to fool just about everyone. He coined the term as an attempt to conflate his fringe movement with far larger and more reasonable groups, of everyone from paleo-conservatives, to gamers to libertarians to w.s.

And the media and liberals have been supporting that strategy, to grown the w.s. movement, because they NEED "evidence" to support their lefty narrative of "AMERICAN BAD".

He is quite good at branding. Of course, he has had a lot of help. Do you mind if I ask you, are you one of the people that support the nazis in their attempt to co-opt other groups so that they can grow?

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The Left are horrible with branding, strategizing and have inept DNC leadership. They hired the DNC head because he was good at fundraising instead of seeking someone who had a plan to strengthen democratic political influence, power and goals while gaining widespread support. The latter is what the GOP has been doing since the 1970s using both short-term and long-term strategies for legislative; judicial; media; educational; public relations; financial; business institutions.

The news media has been garbage since Cronkite and Jennings left.

White supremacists became white nationalists became alt-right. White sheets became business suits. Yes, they're rebranding and normalizing their hatred.

The GOP has allowed themselves to be taken over by delusional QAnoners and white supremacists because they know demographics is not on their side and idiots and fools can be easily manipulated. They'd rather destroy democracy and replace it with a white supremacist "Christian" dystopia if it means they stay in power.

Notice how the DNC has already given-up on the 2022 mid-terms outcome instead of attempting to strategize in order to expand their majority.

The covid dystopia was only a preview of the nightmare to come. I suggest you have a passport ready, save some money and decide which country you'll emigrate to.

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Dude. The left is great at branding. The Alt Right move was brilliant. It gives them another great way to conflate vast numbers of people of the Right, with diverse and often relatively innovative ideas, with w.s., like you just did.

I have seen it many time. Even seen a lib talk to a con, and discuss how he is "alt right" as in just some alternative form of conservative, while the con doesn't get that, this allows the media to now present him as w.s.


AND, as this these people are defined as w.s. by the media, it creates in the disaffected whites, the illusion that w.s. is a....serious movement, opening them up to recruitment and for fundraising, to keep the w.s. movement alive, or even better ACTIVE, giving more gist to the narrative.

I mean your talk of w.s. Christian dystopia? That's great stuff. No way you could sell it, even to your fellow hard core believers, without a TON of ground work laid down ahead of time, by constant panic mongering about w.s. and the "alt right" by the media.


And it is all thanks to the good working relationship between some very clever w.s. leaders and a very hard working lib media.

You really need to give your leadership more credit.


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Lib media? I'm disappointed in you since that's a rightwing marketing strategy. I'll explain:

Most Americans watched CBS, NBC or ABC evening news. It was trusted especially Cronkite and Jenner but others like Rather.

When Fox debuted, they needed a way to get people to watch them instead of the popular traditional news programs. That's when "liberal news media" moniker was born and repeated nonstop on rightwing radio and newspapers. It worked and conservatives rejected traditional news in droves. Now, they live in a bubble.

Anyway, Fox was never about delivering a conservative perspective. It's propaganda and lies trying to gain influence over people. Most of their agenda helps rich people and hurts average folks.

I'm not sure what your last post is about. I'm just pointing out the trigger term you mindlessly repeated and its history.

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My point was clear. The branding work that Spencer and the lib media does, working together is brilliant and works for both of them.

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So you think Spencer is a democrat? Nope, he's Nazi saluting your guy, Trump:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk

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I said nothing about him being a democrat. I pointed out that you want him jailed for political reasons.

I support Freedom of Speech. you do not. YOu are against human rights. YOu are anti-civil rights.

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You support hate speech. Stop gaslighting!

"Spencer and the lib media does, working together"

Obviously, you believe he's a democrat. You're delusional.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk

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1. I support free speech. You want to make speech a crime and imprison people for it. So, you do not support human rights. Like I said.

2. I clearly discussed the working alliance the Spencer and the media have, and how it benefits both the liberals and the w.s. That is not saying that they are the same people, but that they have a working alliance. That is my point. Address it, not the stupid ass shit you are making up.

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"Address it"

I can't help your lack of reading comprehension. But, they can:
rif.org

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I read fine. YOu are just trolling now. You want to make speech and imprison people for it.

You do not support human rights.

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Your telling me what I want is presumptuous.

Continue to support hate speech and Nazi Spencer.

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I'm not telling you what you want, I'm discussing your stated positions in this thread.

And you want to imprison people for speech that you do not like.

It is no surprise. Liberals have been working up towards this for a while. We conservatives saw it coming and talked about it, but were dismissed as talking crazy, but here we are, and you are doing just like we said.


It is VERY telling that you conflate defending someone's right to freedom of speech, with supporting them personally. That is a tell tale sign of someone that does not support human rights.

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You would support hate speech. I'm sure you support the national history book bans.

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I support free speech. You do not.

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Because being a card carrying white supremacist domestic terrorist is somehow not a crime in the U.S. In fact it's often incentivized in law enforcement which is thoroughly infiltrated by white supremacists which has even been verified by the historically racist FBI.

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Exactly!

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