So pretty!


She is such a beautiful young lady. I bet she is going to be a gorgeous teen and adult as she grows up. I'm looking forward to checking her out in her new film, M3gan coming out in January.

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I've noticed you're quite forward about calling children pretty and cute. It makes you look a bit creepy Allaby pal. Keep such thoughts to yourself going forward please. It's not a good look. She's only 11 years old.

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I hope to God that the OP is trolling and doesn't really mean what he says. Either way, it does make him look creepy.

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Not trolling, but I don't see how it is creepy. If I say I saw a cute kitten, would you think that is creepy?

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If by "cute kitten" you mean very young cat, then no, I wouldn't.

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I don't think there is anything wrong with saying a cute kid is cute. If I saw a cute puppy, I would say the puppy is cute. If I saw a beautiful sunset, I would say the sunset is beautiful. If I saw a delicious looking pizza, I would say the pizza is delicious. I don't think there is any harm in noting that someone or something is cute or pretty. It's not dirty or sexual just to say someone is cute, pretty, etc.

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It's generally frowned upon and if it's not your intention for it to be seen as sexual it's best just to not say it at all as that's how many will take it.

Stating that you think she'll be a gorgeous teen and adult also makes it look like you're keeping tabs on her going forward and are actively looking forward to her maturing and becoming legal. That comment comes across as creepy for sure. You shouldn't be trying to predict how attractive a child will be when they grow up.

A rather concerning point is there was a thread on the Orphan (2009) board asking who would sleep with her if they knew she was 33 years old and not their adopted daughter and you said you would. Isabelle Fuhrman was 12 years old when that film was released, likely around 11 years old during filming. Openly saying you'd sleep with someone who looks 11 if you knew they were legally an adult is quite a damning statement when you're claiming your comments aren't sexual at all. People are rightfully going to question how honest you're being.

https://moviechat.org/tt1148204/Orphan/61407aedc724f06e8813c0f5/Would-you

You should refrain from talking like this about 11 and 12 year olds. You can instead join me and the other horndogs in talking about how much we like actresses with large breasts.

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She is pretty. Just because we appreciate beauty with something it doesn't mean there is sexual attraction. The fact that this post devolved into that so quickly says much about society. I think sunsets are pretty. I think flowers are pretty. I think buildings can be pretty. I'm not sexually attracted to any of those things.

I understand a bit where the concern is because you just have to go on any actresses page and so many posts are about how fuckable or unfuckable they are. Calling a child pretty or beautiful shouldn't automatically mean sexual attraction, but since a woman's worth in this world is all about how fuckable they are...I can see the confusion.

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The post devolved because it needed too. I wouldn't be so quick to defend someone who is making bizarre borderline paedophallic posts.

He's made several comments like this before. He has openly stated he'd sleep with someone who looks like this;
https://bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Orphan-movie-2009-1200x900.jpg

If they were actually 33 years old. Basically saying that physically he finds her sexually attractive enough to sleep with and that her age is the only issue (due to legality I imagine). So when he says an 11 year old girl is pretty and he bets she'll be a gorgeous teen and adult it's quite concerning. I wouldn't be so quick to claim it's purely non-sexual.

You're being too forgiving and naive here. If a grown man is calling children pretty, cute and beautiful (seemingly exclusively female children at that!) then it's right to question the intentions.

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In regards to the The Orphan post, the question was would you sleep with her if you knew she was 33 years old. If a person knows that someone is well above the age of the majority, even if they look young, why is that something to be concerned about? People tell little girls they are pretty all the time. I got it from men and women. I've called my nieces pretty. I do tend to compliment more on brains than looks because I think that women should be valued for our brains, but there was nothing sinister or sexual in those compliments.

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Because she's clearly a child that has perhaps not even began puberty never mind finished it? Most grown men are only attracted to adult women or worst case scenario 'jailbait' teenage girls who have been in puberty for a good few years, display a more womanly figure, are capable of bearing children and are on the cusp of legality.

There is a big difference between looking younger than your age and looking like a literal child. Basically admitting you find people who look 11 years old sexually attractive doesn't sound concerning to you? Really? So we're to believe his comments in the OP are totally non-sexual when he's openly stated he would sleep with someone who looks 11? Connect the dots.

You can't just click your fingers and turn off your attraction. "She's 11 years old? I'm not sexually attracted to her." "She's 33 years old? What a hottie." It doesn't work like that. If you find a '33 year old' who looks like a child attractive then you absolutely must find children attractive.

There is a meme online about anime fans defending their attraction to characters who look like children because they're actually a 1000 year old dragon in a human child form/disguise. This is what we're basically talking about here. If you find yourself sexually attracted to children (or people who look like literal children, as in 11 year olds) you're a paedophile. Just as when you're a man and find another man attractive you're either a bisexual or homosexual.

It's strange I find myself having this conversation. With a woman no less? Thought women would be more wary to the more sinister and predatory elements of male sexuality.

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A child can be pretty.

We can appreciate a pretty child without being sexually attracted to them.

I think there are a lot of pretty people in this world that I have not one iota of sexual attraction for. Again. I can appreciate pretty art and not have a sexual reaction. I can appreciate a mountain range and not want to have sex with it.

I think that the US is obsessed with pedophilia. I think that most of the time people don't even understand that pedophilia is sexual attraction to prepubescent children. I mean I've seen an 18 year old who had sex with a 17 year old called a pedophile. So, I'm not so big on jumping on that term.

As a woman, I'm very wary of men's behaviour to women, and children. I also am aware that most children who are abused, are abused by someone they know, and that the number of pedophiles out there is much less than these boards would have you believe. That doesn't mean that they don't exist or that we shouldn't be wary, but I am not concerned over a grown man calling a child pretty. Now if Allaby was leering at the child or making other suggestive remarks, or even said that she was going to be hot, then yes I'd be concerned. But the two comments that I have read are not raising red flags. I actually agree with him. I think she is very pretty, and I think that she will be a very pretty teen and adult. I'm more concerned about the posters who comment on an actresses breasts on every board.

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Now if Allaby was leering at the child or making other suggestive remarks, or even said that she was going to be hot, then yes I'd be concerned.

He literally said in the OP that he bets she'll be a gorgeous teen and adult.

When Allaby comments on how a young boy actor will grow to be a handsome man get back to me. (That would be weird too). Until then it seems his compliments are exclusively for young girls. He can talk about how cute a kitten is or how beautiful a sunset is all he wants. His comments are exclusively for young girls and as in OP have connotations for how they will be as an adult (i.e betting she'll be a gorgeous adult). I'm sure it's completely non-sexual.

As soon as I saw this child on the trending bar on the MC homepage I said to myself I bet it's Allaby calling her cute. That's what brought me to devolve this thread in this manner. When people see a childs board bumped and can tell who posted on it and that they would reference her looks then there is definitely an issue.

I'm more concerned about the posters who comment on an actresses breasts on every board.

Strange as most grown men are attracted to breasts and will comment on them. Finding a grown womans breasts attractive is as normal as it gets. Commenting on how pretty young girls are and how 'gorgeous' they'll be as a teenager is not normal. Nor is saying you'd sleep with an 11 year old if they were actually 33 years old.

I'm more concerned about blatant borderline paedophillic remarks and the defense of them over a couple of grown men remarking how attractive a grown woman is.

Yours truly,
One of the posters who comment on an actresses breasts on every board.

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I have not seen anything other than these two comments made by Allaby. Again, neither one screams pedophile to me. You saying that he wants to sleep with an 11 year old who is actually 33 makes no sense to me. Would he want to sleep with her if she is 11? That's the question. If she's 33 then there is nothing to it.

I will change my wording, I too think Violet McGraw will be gorgeous as a teenager. I thought Amber Scott was going to be beautiful when she grew up, and she is. I thought the Beckham boys were handsome kids. Now that they are older not so much, but I didn't want to sleep with them.

If you have never said to a child "oh aren't you handsome." or "my you look pretty today" , or "aren't you a pretty girl" then great. I think most people have said those things or something similar at one point. I don't consider those a threat to that child.

I think, and this is my opinion, that if you see sexual threats in every comment, then you are the one sexualizing the child and the comment in your head.

BTW women are more than our breasts.

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Is this an elaborate troll?

If you were talking to a grown man and he said, of an 11 year old girl, "I'd fuck her if she was 33". (As in how she looks today not what she would age into). Would that not seem odd to you? How is it that this seems to be going over your head? The fact that someone is physically attracted to children and will only deny so because it's not appropriate to openly state it.

To over exaggerate this. Picture a new born baby and someone saying they'd sleep with it if it were actually 33 years old. Do you understand now what the issue is here? The fact that they have the sexual attraction to the person in question and it's only the matter of legality and social acceptance that stops them from stating so.

By saying you'd sleep with an 11 year old if they were actually 33 years old is a blatant and open declaration that you find 11 year olds (the one in question at least) sexually attractive.

Yes. The old 'no you' defense. I'm the one attracted to children because I pointed out that another user has a sketchy history of 'complimenting' young girls and openly stating he'd sleep with an 11 year old should they actually be 33? Truly amazing minds here on MC.

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YES...THIS IS AN ELABORATE TROLL JOB...PERPETRATED BY YOU...YOU SEEM EXTREMELY DEFENSIVE ABOUT THIS TOPIC LIKE YOU ARE SHIFTING SUSPICION...YOU WANT TO CONFESS TO SOMETHING? NOEMOJI

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You always roll your eyes and give pithy comments to men on these boards who proclaim their attraction to grown women.

I was wondering if you would come in and slam Allaby for making a post about a childs looks.

But in true Kowalski form you make a clown out of yourself and switch sides in the defense of paedophillic comments.

Strange that you, of all people, would suddenly be okay with commenting on a girls appearance.

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SAYING A GIRL IS PRETTY OR WILL BE GORGEOUS IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN YOUR TIT-CENTRIC PORNO POSTS WHICH READ LIKE THE SEMEN STAINED DIARY ENTRIES OF A MENTALLY CHALLENGED 12 YEAR OLD BOY...POSTS THAT ILLUSTRATE WHAT A SEXUALLY CONFUSED JUVENILE YOU REALLY ARE. NOEMOJI

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I would have had some respect for you had you been true to your principles. Users remarking on how attractive a woman is get your disdain and you often comment that their looks are irrelevant but now you are actually defending comments on how 'pretty' a child is. What relevancy does that have to anything? Why was this topic even started. A very bizarre turn of events.

As it stands you're a colossal clown.

Top 5 MovieChat betrayals!

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I HAVE A DAUGHTER YOU KNOW...SHE IS VERY PRETTY AS WELL...PROBABLY GOING TO BE A GORGEOUS WOMAN AND KILL ME WITH STRESS...DO YOU WANT TO READ WAY TO FAR INTO MY COMMENT TOO?...YOU HAVE SPILLED 10,OOO WORDS ON THIS TOPIC AND ALL YOU MANAGED TO ACCOMPLISH IS MAKING YOURSELF LOOK EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS...AND YES...THE FACT THAT THIS IS COMING FROM THE "ASSHOLE WHITE KNIGHT OF MOVIECHAT" SHOULD BE COMMUNICATING TO YOU JUST HOW EXPOSED YOUR INNER THOUGHTS ARE RIGHT NOW. NOEMOJI

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Very bizarre stance to take. Another 'no you' rebuttal.

What should one do when they notice a user is regularly making remarks on how pretty and cute children are? One who is on record as stating they'd sleep with an 11 year old if they were actually 33 years old? Join in? "Damn straight she's a little cutie. I'd sleep with an 11 year old too". Is that what is expected of someone? That would not 'expose' inner thoughts and be totally fine?

Attempts to portray expressing concerns with a sinister heart lurking within is akin to tales of the biggest homophobes being homosexuals themselves. Something I imagine you'd call into question. That is ultimately blaming homosexuals for their own victimization. Do you see how the stance you're taking is so silly?

Someone who hates homosexuals being called gay is an infantile and braindead rebuttal. You're doing the same all in the name of protecting borderline paedophillic remarks. It's a very strange stance to take. Not sure why some are choosing to fight this fight of all fights.

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WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT,PEDOPHILE? NOEMOJI

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It seems I've made the mistake of trying to have a rational conversation with someone who prides themselves on ignorance and likes to antagonize/insult others.

Rational being the keyword. I'm trying to rationalize and explain what the matter is and you're flinging shit.

Like trying to teach a brick wall how to count.

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YOU ARE USING TWELVE MILLION WORDS TO EFFECTIVELY CALL ALLABY A PEDOPHILE...I SAY YOU ARE GOING TO THAT AMOUNT OF WORK TO COVER FOR YOUR OWN SICK NATURE...RATIONALIZE AWAY,CREEPER. NOEMOJI

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That does seem to be the root of the issue here. It's Allaby a member of the good old boys group.

Hence the reason why numerous users with >10k posts on this site are leaping to his defence. A random new user would not get such a defence force to protect them that's for sure.

In future cases take a step back and analyse things independently of bias. Just because someone is your internet friend/acquaintance doesn't mean you truly know them nor should you go out of your way to defend them when they're clearly posting questionable things.

I assure you that when this thread is dated, in the future people will look at you and others as absolute muppets for desperately defending something that is rightfully called out.

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CREEP...CREEP...CREEP. NOEMOJI

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So now you defend a creep like Allaby with his dozens of posts about children. Not only that, you call other users who mention it pedophiles.

You sick man Kowalski

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YOU SUCK,BRO. 😘

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I'm not talking about the Orphan here. I'm talking about Violet McGraw being a pretty individual.

You keep brining up the Orphan. If the context was just about a child I'd see it differently. But you are referring to a question on a board for a movie about an actual 33 year old who looks like a child, not an actual 11 year old. The question was

Would you?
posted a year ago by Taeivon (172)
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If you knew she was 33 and not your adoptive daughter.


That's entirely different than asking if you would sleep with an 11 year old. If the question was would you sleep with an 11 year old, and the answer was yes, then I'd be screen capturing and contacting the RCMP.


Yes. The old 'no you' defense. I'm the one attracted to children because I pointed out that another user has a sketchy history of 'complimenting' young girls and openly stating he'd sleep with an 11 year old should they actually be 33? Truly amazing minds here on MC.

The reason why I said it was you, is that you are the one who keeps telling me that there is a sexual context for saying that a girl is pretty. You are hung up on the comment from the orphan board. I have no other comment on that because I was not part of that conversation. I don't know the intent of the OP other than the words. To me they are about a 33 year old woman and not an 11 year old girl, so I don't see it the way you do. If you want to keep the conversation to this comment, we can, although I don't know what else there is to say, but I am not going to talk about the Orphan anymore because it has nothing to do with this actress.

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People have made a sport out of accusing others of having improper feelings toward children.
They believe they occupy some sanctified place where they can judge and accuse whoever they want, whenever they want, for whatever whim that crosses their own sick imaginations.
It's simply amusing to take some self created moral high position and feel superior to others.
It's truly sick and disgusting, far more than the rest of us who just want to relax and nurture our community of youngsters in a warm and rational manner, not suspicious and creating ugliness for no reason.
But haters are gonna hate, so what can you do?

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What is this PaedophileChat?

Why are so many users with vast post counts making such comments on children and/or defending such comments.

I question why I'm even on this site with such people.

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Look at the guy's profile pic. Lol.

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What about it?

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Nothing. It's cute.

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Thanks.

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thumbs up!

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"it's simply amusing to take some self created moral high position and feel superior to others"


LIKE WHAT YOU JUST DID WITH YOUR BITCHY COMMENT? NOEMOJI

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👮🏻‍♂️

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What does this mean?

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It's the 'pedobear'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedobear

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Oh, I thought he was trying to call him a fox or something.

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It's a cuddly teddy bear. Clearly, that poster is offering hugs.

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Pervert

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Saying that a pretty girl is pretty makes someone a pervert? That's just silly.

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You know you are. A cute kid is just that. A cute kid. But you're already imagining what a "gorgeous teen and adult" this little girl is going to be. People do that naturally with the kids they are close to, in their families, projecting them in the future because they care about their wellbeing, etc. But going out of your way to say what you said about a kid who's a total stranger? I don't know man..

"I'm looking forward to checking her out in her new film, M3gan coming out in January."
It's surprising how much of what you write makes you look creepy. You either ARE creepy or very clumsy with your choice of words coupled with a total lack of discernment.

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It's not unusual for people to comment on a child's future appearance. I hear that quite frequently. She may be acting for several years and possibly decades so it is not like she is some kid walking down the street that I am saying it about. And when I talk about checking her out in the film I mean her performance. I saw the movie M3GAN and she did a good job.

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Creep

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For the first time ever I completely agree with you. 💯💯💯💯

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