Vance was asked in an interview whether he knew the claims were false.
“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do,” Vance said, quickly clarifying that he “created the focus that allowed the media to talk about this story and the suffering caused by policies.”
[–] Branson26 (821) 7 days ago
Pro coup? The only coup was 2020 the election that went against election history.
YEP. You're Pro Coup Why and how?
Because you willfully deny how elections work in the USofA. One side gets more votes than the other, either Popular or Electoral, and in many cases, such as Biden/Harris, both. 🗽
Biden 2020 votes were clearly boosted.
Boosted how? Care to delineate the "Boosters"? I didn't think so.
The 2020 election doesn't even hold up with the last Democrat win with similar margins: fraud election.
You don't understand the way elections work, do you?
2008 Obama 66,663,038 P. Vote 365 E.C. 2008 McClain 58,318,442 P. Vote 173 E.C.
2012 Obama 65,915,795 P. Vote 332 E.C. 2008 Romney 60,933,504 P.Vote 206 E.C.
Voter participation rate is extraordinarily low in the USofA.
Where are the Boosters, who is doing the Boostings, and WHAT is the Boost? 🗽👍🤣
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There was a coup in the 2020 election and again in 2024. All to the Democrats benefit. Imagine that!
Biden's popular electoral votes do not hold with his electoral votes when compared with a comparable election. We would expect Biden to have more than 332 EV not 306. Biden's popular vote was boosted to facilitate the steal.
I have no clue what you're trying to show with the 2008 and 2012.
Voter turnout has been higher than 2020 in several elections yet 2020 is still a one off election.
Biden's popular electoral votes do not hold with his electoral votes when compared with a comparable election. We would expect Biden to have more than 332 EV not 306. Biden's popular vote was boosted to facilitate the steal.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hahahaha! Talk about a word salad...
Please educate yourself about how the Electoral College works, you absolute moron!
Your statement made absolutely no sense! 1] What, pray tell, is a "popular electoral vote"❓
2] Show your work for those numbers 332/306 ⁉
3] What is a "comparable election"❓
4] The popular vote is irrelevant to "the steal", because to "steal" the election you would obviously manipulate the electoral vote...
Until I can understand your claims, I cannot begin to refute them, so please, explain away!
Obama had a 3.9% popular vote differential in 2012 for 332 electoral votes. Biden had 4.5% popular vote differential in 2020 for just 306 electoral votes. We expect Biden to have more electoral votes than Obama based on their popular vote differentials, not less. It's far more likely that they boosted Biden's popular vote to facilitate the steal.
Ah, I had a sneaking suspicion that you were doing something like that! I'm afraid that's not how the Electoral College works, so I refer you to my earlier exhortation to please educate yourself...
Because electoral votes aren't related to the total number of popular votes, they're related to the number of popular votes in the individual states...
Who cares? Imagine being more concerned about how this issue is highlighted rather than the actual issue itself.
Where's the outrage when the left benefits by preying on the hopes of voters with campaign promises that have no chance of actually happening like this:"At a campaign rally, Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden told the crowd that if he is elected President, "we're going to cure cancer." CNN's Kate Bolduan presses Biden campaign co-chairman Rep. Cedric Richmond on Biden's promise." https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/12/joe-biden-cure-cancer-campaign-richmond-bolduan-sot-ath-vpx.cnn
Integrity is always the right way to go. Lying is rarely ever the right thing to do.
Yes, be mad that Biden did not cure cancer. Maybe the windmills got in the way? Failing to cure cancer has not lead to bomb threats against the White House. Or are you going to claim that you have been making bomb threats due to Biden not curing cancer?
Where is the rage that these stupid lies that Vance advances are impetus behind the bomb threats in the city?
Pushing blatant lies to cure cancer for self benefit is betraying one's country.
Meanwhile, these bomb threats are likely pushed by Democrats, perfect distraction from the Biden-Harris disaster that allowed multitudes of foreigners to by pass immigration laws to flood the country.
Why do you think the bomb threats are from Democrats? Evidence?
Which immigration laws were bypassed that allowed Haitians in the country? The Haitians in Springfield Ohio are not there as some sort of federal program.
What rational reason do you have to believe anything you just posted?
It doesn't matter if Biden is running again. The same elites who supported the Biden administration are also backing Harris. I already explained that the bomb threats are from Democrats: self benefit.
You're wrong the Haitians are here by way of a federal program:
"The Biden administration on Friday announced new temporary protected status for Haitians who arrived in the U.S. on or before June 3, 2024, to shield even those who entered the country illegally from being deported back to Haiti, which remains in the grip of gang violence.
“We are providing this humanitarian relief to Haitians already present in the United States given the conditions that existed in their home country as of June 3, 2024,” Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said. “In doing so, we are realizing the core objective of the TPS law and our obligation to fulfill it.” https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/biden-admin-gives-protected-status-309000-haitians-rcna159438
If you have insider knowledge of who is making the bomb threats, then why are you not talking to the FBI about it? It is because you're lying and have no evidence of who is actually doing it.
Just because there are some Haitians who arrived and are shielded from deportation, does not mean they are the ones in Springfield.
Your link says nothing about where they live, so you're lying again when suggesting that illegal immigrant Haitians live in Ohio and are eating pets there.
FBI and Democrats are partners in crime: Russia inquiry, the Mueller Report, and the Mar-A-Lago raid. Who benefits from bomb threats: Democrats.
This entire article is all Haitians in Springfield, Ohio and it says the same thing: "In January 2023, the Biden administration announced Haitians would be among a new group of nationalities eligible for a program officials hoped would create more lawful pathways into the US and decrease pressure at the border." https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/19/us/springfield-ohio-haitians-immigration-cec/index.html
[–] Branson26 (784) a day ago
Meanwhile, these bomb threats are likely pushed by Democrats, perfect distraction from the Biden-Harris disaster that allowed multitudes of foreigners to by pass immigration laws to flood the country.
But Trump said he could rein them in. Look likes Trump's lame ass would not do anything, again. Tell me again why you want such a spinless person back in the White House.
Nothing in that links says that anyone bypassed any immigration laws to get in.
You should stop expecting people on this forum who read your posts to be so stupid.
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You were wrong about it being a federal program. You were wrong about this program being applied to the Springfield Haitians. Why are you posting a thread about a subject you clearly don't have much knowledge about?
They are here by way of a temporary protective status. Migrants have temporary statues not immigrants.
TPS is for temporary status: Once granted TPS, an individual also cannot be detained by DHS on the basis of his or her immigration status in the United States. TPS is a temporary benefit that does not lead to lawful permanent resident status or give any other immigration status.
Tell me about Russia inquiry, the Mueller Report, lockdowns, Covid 6 foot rule Hunter's lap top ect. where the same big media either pushed lies or hid info to benefit Democrats.
It's not as bad as that one story about eating pets that people in the town were telling and Trump and Vance picked up! That's the worst thing since the history of forever!!1!!
Just a heads up about Ranb, he is one dishonest piece of shit. He claims that he can’t support Trump because he’s not conservative enough, but then turns a blind eye to the radicalism of Cacklin’ Kamala and Tampon Tim. He’s a joke and I half suspect he’s trolling this entire board. He and milsey are one and the same from where I’m standing.
As opposed to that Walz guy who seems to lie about everything -- his service record, whether he's a coach or assistant coach, whether he was in Tiananmen Square. But he does seem to like to take kids to China a LOT. His ties to China are coming under scrutiny. Everything about the man is fake. He acts like a dime store Richard Simmons, and he was a MSgt? My father was a MSgt. No, they don't "jazz hands" recruits into shape.
And you do know that there are some Springfield natives who were telling those stories, so he was just going by what the people were saying. Walz lies about himself and what he personally knows for a fact is not true.
Other than posting links that show Walz decided to retire and run for office prior to be informed about a possible deployment, I am not claiming that Walz is honest, at all. Are you posting these claims about Walz on that part of the forum along with evidence back it up?
Neither Trump nor Harris are getting my vote. I got no dog in this fight.
Vance does not care if the stories he repeats are true or not. He actually said so.
J. D. Vance tripled down on his debunked claims that Haitian immigrants are killing and eating local pets in Springfield, Ohio, while also admitting, “If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.