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Played THE worst Star Wars character EVER: Rey


The Star Wars Sequel trilogy is divisive enough as it is, but Rey really is the shit-kicker cherry on the top, with her being as far away from being human and relatable as it is possible to be in Star Wars. Even the DROIDS have more humanity than her!

How can anyone like a character who is basically perfect: can master unknown technology just like that, never makes mistakes, everyone loves her, she doesn't learn over time, she never loses to her enemies AND can beat characters like Kylo Ren in her first fight with him with a weapon she's only known for a few hours, never having even heard about it before then, as well as mastering Jedi techniques like mind tricks and even beating the legendary Luke Skywalker in a fight! Annoying as hell!

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The Force is female!

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Look at my post, did you once see me mention her gender and blaming that on her poor character? NO.

It's nothing to do with the gender, Satan2016. It could be a male character who's just like Rey and they would be received just as poorly!

Poorly-written and developed characters are that way, no matter what race, gender or sexuality they are, that doesn't matter in the slightest.

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Apparently she is a feminist lesbian

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I used to be on this bandwagon, but once it was revealed that she was of Palpatine's line in Episode IX, she earned every bit of her "Mary Sue" status. The Emperor is the overarching lynchpin of all three trilogies, and I love it that way. Face it, haters, Disney punk'd you big time. These force users are simply more powerful than in the PT and OT, because, of course, The Force is a balancing act and the solitary nature of Sith to selfishly accumulate power means that their adversaries level-up at alarming rates.

"The Force is Female" was a marketing decision to broaden the audience, and it was somewhat annoying at times, but they weaved the narrative into acceptable territory upon conclusion.

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Don't get me started on Palpatine: that was a complete joke, because Johnson had killed off Snoke and so Abrams needed a Big Bad to finish off that insipid Sequel Trilogy, and being the entirely unimaginative hack that he is, he simply did the obvious despite the massive plotholes it would cause.

Most people don't like the Sequel Trilogy, get used to that fact.

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I don't care what people like. I care what I like, and how well storycrafters can sell me on the themes selected & presented, and the overall package. Most people know dick about film and literature anyhow. We really going to go w/ audience scores, and argument ad populum here?!

I admire what Disney did. They figured that if they do something that gets people talking (or even irate) then it's worth the risk long-term. After all, they rather have you thinking about Star Wars than ignoring it. Some of you have thousands of posts here going back to IMDb days. How much you wanna bet that this activity was largely fostered by Star Wars, and maybe some comic book extended universes if you're into that as well? They don't care whether you were ecstatic or demanding the head of Kathleen Kennedy. It's all publicity.

You seem to be of the opinion that in a corporate boardroom they just decided to wing it, and gave these directors full creative control. No matter what they may have said in interviews or press releases, the origin of Rey was determined probably even before they cast her. It was simply kept confidential. These are the movies that featured one of the all-time great mind-fvcks of all time when we learned Vader is Luke's father in Empire. If you weren't around then, it might be hard to capture the significance of that, and of course, if you later watch the films in chronological order the twist disappears altogether.

There was always going to be a similar twist in the new episodes. That twist had nothing to do with Han dying, or Luke being a hermit, or the Snoke character... those were red herrings to distract from the payoff. The twist was fully placed on the origin of Rey, and the Emperor, Darth Sidious reveal. He is the primary antagonist of the series. The only thing that could have changed that would be if Ian McDiarmid had died prior to IX, but he was likely secretly contracted for that film during pre-production stages of VII.

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Very well-reasoned post, but I suppose I just never liked the Sequel Trilogy, despite the problems and plotholes and sheer conveniences scattered all over them. I consider the Star Wars story to be over after the first six movies, and was very skeptical when Disney bought Lucasfilm. They then proceeded to make a non-planned, rehash trilogy with no originality and yet people initially lapped it up. They then soured on it with the second movie, and course correction for the movie resulted in an insulting car crash. HOWEVER, the movies still made pots of money, somehow, AND were highly rated, which baffles me, even if the returns on each diminished, and Solo (horrible movie) bombed, the first Star Wars to do so.

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The marketing decision didn't work to broaden the audience since the last movie of the shequel travesty made only half as much as the first.

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It is fine to have a STRONG character. Her being strong in the force, was fine. Even being stronger than Kalyo Ren, I had no problem with the concept that not every sith lord is a complete bad ass, and he might get his ass handed to him by someone stronger even if untrained.

But, moving straight to mind control minutes after being "awakened"? Come on. And taht is only one example of many.


The cumalitive effect is not STRONG CHARACTER, but OVERPOWERED MARY SUE, and that is not good writing.


The complaints are valid.


It would not have undermined the character if she had managed to resist Kaylo Ren's mind probe, but then be rescued by Han Solo.


"The Force is Female" was not just a marketing decision. It was anti-male bigotry. Every male character has to be deconstructed and minimized to make the women look stronger. Which is bad writing too. A hero is not undermined by having strong supporting characters, and really is not undermined by having a strong ENEMY.


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Personally I refuse to see episode 9 because I hate it being retconned that the Emperor didn't die at the end of Return of the Jedi.

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We will see. I predict the next movie won't pull much more than one billion. Keep in mind that The Force Awakens pulled in over two billion. They may be trying to grow their audience, but in the meantime, they are losing long-time fans that would go to see a good SW movie in theaters multiple times.

Bud Light recently tried to grow their base with a similar tactic and it blew up in their face.

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"character who is basically perfect"

Every action hero ever did that ,
Daisy is only singled out because
a) Star wars nerds over analyse everything
b) shes a woman

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John McClane isn't perfect, for one.

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a post on Die Hard board :

"only plot hole in film is how does john mclain know how to be so skill at fighting when he just nyc cop? he is like expert warrior in gorilla tactics and he know how to navigate through skyscraper under rader etc. how does he do all this for cop?

in under siege casey ryback is cook but ex-navy seal. same with harrison ford in air force one - ex-warrior. die hard would be more believable if john mclain be ex-delta force or something."


He's a proper Mary Sue!

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[โ€“] moviechatterer (9212) 6 hours ago
"character who is basically perfect"

Every action hero ever did that ,
Daisy is only singled out because
a) Star wars nerds over analyse everything
b) shes a woman

Ellen Ripley
Sarah Connor
Katniss Everdeen

Action heroes. All women. None perfect. Great characters.

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You are forgetting that she basically supplanted a beloved character - Luke Skywalker. So, halfway through the saga, they replace a beloved central male character with a female, because "muh feminism". Yes, long-time fans have every right to be bitter. Yes, the diehards overanalyze, but so does everyone who is passionate about something.

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Luke was gonna get replaced either way - cos he's old
Would the nerds have been ok if the replacement was male?

I didnt notice Finn or that guy he stole the Tie fighter with taking half as much shit

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I did not like the Rey character at all and I am not a fan of Daisy Ridley either.

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You are an idiot.

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You like trash movies like the Sequels.

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That title goes to jar jar..

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