Apparently, this bimbo didn’t watch Midnight Express! You did the crime, now do the time.
https://nypost.com/2022/07/04/in-letter-brittney-griner-begs-biden-to-get-her-out-of-russia/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
I kinda feel bad for her, but I'm also kinda tired how she's represented; like this amazing athlete who was "allegedgly caught with cannabis oil vape cartridges in her luggage" for no apparent reason.
One, she is a pot head. Its no secret. Since her days at Baylor.
Two, just because pot is legal in the US, doesn't mean you are ok taking that crap everywhere.
Three, its freakin' Russia man, she could have left that crap behind, but no, she had to bring it in her suitcase...
Don't do stupid things, in stupid places, with stupid people or you will win stupid prizes!
If the detainee were one of those all-American, southern former military man that conservatives love to fetishize, you all would be asking for his immediate release!
shareNo wonder this country is going to shit when pricks like you and all the other haters here think being assholes is a proper response to an American being held in in a dictator's prison. I hope someone close to you finds themselves in a jam and I hope you and your pals all make a big hoot and turn their backs on them. What a fuckin' world you want it to be !
shareShe voted for Biden. She deserves zero sympathy
shareFuck you and this cunt together! She didn’t just make a mistake….She tried SMUGGLING DRUGS out of a foreign country. You really think America should stick their neck out to help someone who doesn’t deserve help? President Hairplugs is up to his eyeballs in Russia! Don’t you think he could’ve gotten her released already if he wanted? Take it up with that cocksucker if you’re so interested in her freedom!
shareNo wonder this country is going to shit when pricks like you and all the other haters here think being assholes is a proper response to an American being held in in a dictator's prison. I hope someone close to you finds themselves in a jam and I hope you and your pals all make a big hoot and turn their backs on them. What a fuckin' world you want it to be !
Interestingly this country is going to shit since guys like you appeared on the stage.
shareAnd let me repeat that the sentence for less than 6 grams of weed in Russia is either a fine or 15 days in jail. Britney had way less than and by Russian law, she should only get what listed above. Instead they are accusing her of drug trafficking. Russia is just as corrupt as US and Ukraine!! I won't pass judgement. I hope she be ok and I hope she can get back home w/o trading for that arms dealer. It's what Putin wants!!
shareAmericans do dopey things in authoritarian countries and then complain when their strict laws are enforced. American privilege and elitism.
I remember that guy who broke the law and was sentenced to being caned and the other one who died in prison after he stole a hotel poster in North Korea.
If you're overseas, behave yourself.
I have no empathy for those groups.
None for the douche that went to North Korea.
None for the civilians that stated behind in Afghanistan.
And none for Griner.
I don't take issue with civilians staying behind because their family was stuck there because of red tape. There was plenty at that time. Neither would I leave my mom or kid in Talibanland.
Putin controls the judges so Griner is at the mercy of a crooked sociopath. Her behavior was arrogance.
Others who break the law are just plain stupid. Another dopey American bought bibles to convert the North Koreans and he ended up in a prison for a long time before being released.
I don't take issue with civilians staying behind because their family was stuck there because of red tape. There was plenty at that time. Neither would I leave my mom or kid in Talibanland.
Putin controls the judges so Griner is at the mercy of a crooked sociopath. Her behavior was arrogance.
Others who break the law are just plain stupid. Another dopey American bought bibles to convert the North Koreans and he ended up in a prison for a long time before being released.
The State Dept. likely meant tourists. There are Americans who were there for legitimate reasons: humanitarian workers, journalists, private contractors hired by our government, family members, etc.. I don't put them in the same category as a jerk breaking the law for kicks.
Apples and oranges between the U.S. and Russian courts. There is no justice in Russia which is the reason I criticized Grimer for doing something so stupid.
That missionary didn't care if he wiped out the entire tribe by exposing them to disease. I envy that those Indians can enjoy their lives without knowing Covid.
The State Dept. likely meant tourists. There are Americans who were there for legitimate reasons: humanitarian workers, journalists, private contractors hired by our government, family members, etc.. I don't put them in the same category as a jerk breaking the law for kicks.
Apples and oranges between the U.S. and Russian courts. There is no justice in Russia which is the reason I criticized Grimer for doing something so stupid.
That missionary didn't care if he wiped out the entire tribe by exposing them to disease. I envy that those Indians can enjoy their lives without knowing Covid.
There were people in Afghanistan on official government business like the U.S. military and our embassy. Our government also employed thousands of private contract workers for both as well as their families.
In answer to your previous question, I just read the Level 4 Advisory re: Russia:
"Russian security services have arrested U.S. citizens on spurious charges, singled out U.S. citizens in Russia for detention and/or harassment, denied them fair and transparent treatment, and have convicted them in secret trials and/or without presenting credible evidence."
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/russia-travel-advisory.html
Our embassy and two consulates are still operating in Russia, so those advisories are not directed towards everyone.
This article was written when the Ukraine/Russia war started. Basketball players were advised to leave, but their owners were telling them to stay.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/22/my-team-said-it-was-no-big-deal-us-basketballers-on-life-in-ukraine-and-russia
Griner was a dolt, but I don't believe we should leave her there. Putin pushing around Americans sends a very bad message.
I was talking about the advisory for going to Afghanistan before the Taliban took over, not Russia.
The rest just shows that Russia was a risky country.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree. I believe the U.S. Government is responsible for citizens within its territories. Outside, only the military.
Griner is in Russia, not Afghanistan.
But, U.S. official policy is government is responsible for U.S. citizens here and abroad. Military is one small aspect of foreign influence. Most is business, diplomatic, charities, humanitarian which is how we gain military allies and business partnerships and clientele. That means plenty of Americans living abroad to further American policies.
I agree to disagree. Good chat.
Griner is in Russia, not Afghanistan
And when you and yours are ever in a tight spot, remember the amount of empathy you have for others.
Maybe you and your family will be in a burning building and no one will fucking care.
They'll say "it's probably their own fault."
And when you and yours are ever in a tight spot, remember the amount of empathy you have for others.
Maybe you and your family will be in a burning building and no one will fucking care.
They'll say "it's probably their own fault."
I was thinking the same thing. Who hasnt seen Midnight Express? Or that series Locked Up Abroad.
shareI'm sure by now a whole lot of people have NOT seen such a grim, gritty and depressing film made in 1978, (MEx).
And I know nothing of LOA.
Ok I get ya. A couple notes to you then.
1. This is a movie chat website and as such I recommend viewing Midnight Express. Its considered by many cinephiles to be an excellent film.
2. Regardless of all circumstances, shes an idiot and a stupid one at that.
Wow, that was one bold take there, Stevie ! (Sarcasm alert)
Try not to strain yourself next time, since everyone needs to see every movie because you say so.
And you can look straight in a mirror when it comes to #2.
Maybe you should try writing for the movies. Such insight and eloquence. (sarcasm alert again)
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shareGriner is obviously a political prisoner.. I doubt she even did what the Russians say she did. Putin is just using her to try and get one of his pathetic cronies back.
shareA “political prisoner”? She plead guilty. Why, because she’s black? I thought blacks want equality? Well, you do the crime, now you can do the time.
shareNinety percent of the people charged with a crime in Russia get convicted. This in and of itself speaks to just how corrupt the countries "justice" system is.. She plead guilty because she was forced to plead guilty. She is in Russia. Putin is using the woman to get back some terrorist that we are holding in this country. So of course his people can manipulate Britney Griner into saying anything.. Any justice system that was actually concerned with justice wouldn't be trying to trade "criminals" for other people. The woman is a pawn in this game. The problem with people like you is that you refuse to think.
shareYou want “corruption”? Look no further than that Soviet Chink in the White House! Biden is up to his hair plugs in Russia AND China! Go cry to him.
shareNinety percent of the people charged with a crime in Russia get convicted. This in and of itself speaks to just how corrupt the countries "justice" system is.. She plead guilty because she was forced to plead guilty.
No she couldn't deny it in the letter that she sent to Biden if the Russian authorities read the letter before it was even sent to Biden, now could she? Any denial of her "crime" and the letter isn't sent. Griner had been playing ball in Russia since 2014, she knew the law; why would she try to break it now? If this were truly about some sort of Russian law why are they willing to trade her for an international criminal? Again, some of you people really need to think..
shareThe only person who needs to think is you.
People go a long time not breaking the law and end up breaking it. Who knows what she was thinking then or what she knew and didn’t know?
She is lawyered up and had every opportunity to say she didn’t do it. She didn’t. We need to stop the conspiracy theories. These materials were found in her luggage. It could’ve happened to anyone.
The fact that Russia is willing to trade her does not mean she didn’t break the law. They probably think it is worth getting rid of her for someone more valuable.
They can get rid of her by simply by kicking her out of the country and making certain that she never returns.. The fact that they are trying to get back an international terrorist who tried to murder Americans shows me that Griner is just a pawn. The fact that you don't seem to care about a man like this potentially being turned over to the Russians.. And think that it's more important that this American citizens suffers for years in a Russian prison for something that is as small as less than an once of weed even if she did do it, says an awful lot about you...none of it being good.
shareYou misunderstand me.
I don’t agree with the prisoner exchange. That man should not be turned over to the Russians. Especially if it is just to get that idiot back.
When you to go to another country, you need to follow their laws. Period. Griner needs to face the music and that’s all there is to it.
Americans love going to other countries and do whatever they want. They are full of hubris and ignorance. Hopefully, Griner’s case is a wake up call for future American travelers.