As Responsible Statecraft and others have pointed out, the United States has already allocated $68 billion to Ukraine, so this $45 billion would push total U.S. spending on Ukraine since the war broke out to approximately $113 billion.
Move to Russia already, you Putin-lovin' commie! (Oh wait....you probably already live there)
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Why don’t you bend over for Putin and be his bitch!!!!
Is it a humanitarian effort at least? In a sick and twisted symbolic porn addiction psycho way?
We know from Snowden and Assange that Pegasus survalence state NSA program fucked up the planet from governments and third party programs.
What benefit is it for the world if a state like Russia is allowed to take over any of its neighbors?
If Russia took over Ukraine it would grow by 43 million people. If it took over Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia it would grow by another 5.9.
This would make the population go up from 143 million to 192 million. If it then invaded poland its population would go up to 229 million. If it took over Georgia that gets it to 239 million. If it took over Belarus it's up to 248 million. How about combined Slovenia, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic it's up to the 267 million people. + Kazahkstan. And then Russia doubles its population to nearly 300 million through war and conquest. The combined population of former soviet countries is 284 million. The United States does not want to compete with that.
The United States does billions and billions of dollars worth of investment with these countries. Messing up any money we would make from them.
Keep in Mind Russia is about the size of Pluto already.
And then Putin dies in 10-20 years from old age and then all of those places are in horrible wars because nobody defended them to begin with. And it's a 21st century hell that could have been avoided.
Russia is not and never was trying to take over one of its neighbors.
It's the US that has been building a colonial empire all over the world for 80 years.
Russia is in Ukraine and Georgia right now. They started invading their neighbors in 2008.
Having economic relations with countries isn't the same as invading them.
Until 2008 the cold war had ended in 1992. There was no reason for Russia to start it back up. Russia could have been like any other country. But the leadership became dipshits. We don't worry about italy? Why because they don't invade other countries.
In August 2008, four months after NATO’s announcement about Ukraine and Georgia, Russia’s military crossed into Georgia and entered into a brief war with Georgian forces (the so-called “five-day war” or “Russo-Georgian war”).
The cause of Russia’s incursion was that the Georgian military — which was funded, armed, and trained by the United States — had launched a massive, fourteen-hour artillery and rocket assault on a semi-autonomous Georgian district (South Ossetia). That district borders on Russia and has close ties to it. Of note, the assault occurred just days after the United States had led a 2,000-man military exercise inside Georgia. The Russian incursion into Georgia has sometimes been mischaracterized by American officials and the U.S. media as an unprovoked invasion.
Aside from the immediate provocation of the Georgian assault, the Russian action was, more generally, a response to the encroachment on Russia’s border of Western military power, in particular that of NATO, spearheaded by the United States. As Colonel Macgregor explained:
The Russians ultimately intervened in Georgia, and the whole purpose of that intervention was to signal to us [the United States] that they would not tolerate a NATO member on their borders, particularly a member that was hostile to them, as at the time the Georgian Government was. So, I think what we’re dealing with now [the war in Ukraine] is exactly the outcome that Ambassador Burns feared when he said “No Means No.”
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In 2008 the US was doing in Georgia the same thing that it is did in Ukraine somewhat later.
Russia started this over a gas pipeline. I'm not 10 years old. I remember when this was happening. I was in my mid 20s at the time. It isn't a just a historic Wikipedia article to look at or some propaganda points for me.
This was going on before NATO was ever involved.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Russia%E2%80%93Georgia_energy_crisis
The Cold War ended in 1992. And no matter how much propaganda people spew about NATO vs Russia this is all a smoke screen to distract that Putin ended his countries constitution, and ceased authoritarian control. Going to war is what dictators do to stay in power. Because any dissent becomes betrayal.
Russia is not the Soviet Union. Russia was a non-threat that nobody cared about until they started invading other countries. All the sanctions imposed is punishment for their own actions and has nothing to do with agreements with the soviet union. There never needed to be this false equivalency to the adversarial relationship that the NATO and the USSR. Russia could have been a regular friendly country, but it is ran by a megalomaniac and his oligarch henchmen. If they had not done these things they would have regular diplomatic relations, there would be no sanctions. Rex Tillerson would have had a giant Exxon plant over in Russia.
Between 1992 and 2008 there was no USSR vs NATO conflict, because the USSR had DISSOLVED. Trying to characterize NATO vs Russia as the same thing as NATO vs the USSR is entirely recent Russian propaganda.
Gorbachev said this was bullshit. Think about it logically, when there wasn't an expansionist power like the USSR around, what is there for NATO countries to do as an alliance organization? Thinking NATO would attack Russia directly, who has Teller-Ullum TSAR H bombs is silly. This is Russia's BS excuse to steal resource land from other states and distract from the Russian peoples disenfranchisement. NATO has no reason to try to land grab Russia. But blaming NATO is their go-to justification.
Let's see, you assert and make up stuff, like:
> This is Russia's BS excuse to steal resource land from other states and distract from the Russian peoples disenfranchisement.
Russia is vast. Many times the size of Ukraine. It has no need to steal resources from Ukraine.
Russia has no history of meddling in the affairs of other countries all over the world. It has a small GDP, and an even smaller defense budget.
> Trying to characterize NATO vs Russia as the same thing as NATO vs the USSR is entirely recent Russian propaganda.
Who is trying to do that? You can't read or respond to the facts, so you just made that up.
Yeah, Russia is the size of Pluto. Why do they need Crimea? Donbas? South Osettia? and Transnistria?
The fact is they are invading other countries. They're already big and they want more.
I think invading Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova was meddling in the affairs of their respective countries.
If you're on the side of the invaders in the 21st century then you're on the wrong side. How about Russia just keeps the 1992 Borders?
And its stupid to think there isn't Russian imperialism. Russia is a top 3 most imperialist countries.
"Who is trying to do that? You can't read or respond to the facts, so you just made that up."
You by trying to support the NATO encroachment theory. NATO encroachment was a Soviet Union problem. Not a Russian problem. For all NATO cared Russia could have joined. BECAUSE THERE IS NO SOVIET UNION.
Russia's excuse for invading another country can't be "The US armed them", if the US armed them. Then stay they hell out. It's none of Russia's business. Maybe they shouldn't play the bad guy when they get goaded? If they had minded their own business they wouldn't have sanctions upon sanctions.
And maybe Putin should just retire. He's been in power for longer than the soldiers he's been sending to their deaths have been alive.
Why do you have the impression that Russia wants these places. You're just making that up, and the proof is that you make it up and then go on at length about something that is not true.
Donbas had its referendum to join Russia, and Russia refused. But the American supported Nationalists in Ukraine kept upping their attacks on the people of the Donbas.
I refute your comical claims, and then you ignore it and repeat the same thing again and again.
Please do tell us what the top 3 imperialist countries are? Where are the Russian military bases? What countries has Russia colonized?
Why in cases of national division have countries been divided so that they groups at war can live in peace, but in Ukraine the Western Ukrainians have to attack to genocide or ethnic cleanse they people they have not liked and have tried to kill since the Second World War?
Your absurd BS arguments are not worth pushing to the top of the queue.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/19/biden-zelenskyy-military-aid-for-ukraine-00097974
shareThey try to sell it to the American people that it's just America standing between Zelensky and Putin. Actually, it's the whole EU and Great Britain -- both of which have been pouring money down that rathole, too. With NOTHING to show for it. One of these days, Putin will pull his other hand from behind his back and just carpet-bomb the whole of Kiev with MOABs.
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