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Any offened by Christian 'Batman' Bale not being an American?


Christian Bale's ethnicity info can be found here courtesy ethnicelebs.com/christian-bale

I'm just curious if there was as much apprehension to the thought of Bale's ethnicity when he was chosen to be Batman. Would some fans be much happier or comfortable with an English Actor being chosen for the role of Spider-man? I'm all for Glover getting an audition.



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How about a non-Jewish white guy being cast for Spiderman?

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Bale puts on an american accent.

gonna be hard for a black guy to pretend to be white.

Unless they like, cover him in make up.

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"Bale puts on an american accent.

gonna be hard for a black guy to pretend to be white.

Unless they like, cover him in make up. "



Exactly. It's not about race... Spider-man has always been white. Just like Blade has always been black and Bruce Wayne has always been white.


It's about consistency. Bale loses his accent and plays an American. Spider-man has always been portrayed as white. Why change that? For PC?

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I have nothing against glover although imho he is to old but peter parker isa white guy and has been for decades and there is no good reason to change that.

Sorry guys I am no bigot but there really is no good reason for it.

As for the bale analogy it is not well thought out. As has been pointed out bale is a WHITE british actor who does a very good american accent.

He is true to the character as written.

Bottom line I want my spiderman to be the way he is in the comics I grew up reading.

Allthis stuff with glover is pure racial motivation and I get it really I do but its a huge mistake to try to push it.

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Spiderman cant shoot webs in the comic w.o his suit but no one complains about that?

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"Bottom line I want my spiderman to be the way he is in the comics I grew up reading."

Why can't he be the exact same character (modest upbringing in Queens, nerdy, father figure shot in front of him) but be black? I seriously don't understand why he has to be white.

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That's my question Adrianics? I'd also like to say I'm not against Spider-man being white as he's always been. I think some may think that by making Parker black (or another ethnicity) -- that the writer(s)/director will possibly bring the 'factual' ethnic history, verbiage, slang and have to apply the factual ethnic history to the non-white Peter Parker/Spider-man character.

What can sometimes be forgotten is that Spider-man's world is ultimately fictional -- and his character or character demeanor to my understanding is not race specific.

A non-white playing Spider-man can be played without the factual history of real life African Americans, Latinos, or Asian heritage being applied in a fictional setting. The thing is can we the observers (of any ethnicity) of such a probability not apply our real world understanding, biases or misperceptions to a non-white Peter Parker/Spider-man?

Admittedly the strongest and best argument against a black (or any other ethnicity) Peter Parker / Spider-man is sticking to the source material, and letting the character look as he always has -- and that's not a bad, racist, or a wrong thing. But I also feel that its not bad, racist, or wrong -- to let actors of all colors get a chance to audition for the role. To me neither side has to be wrong in this case.

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cruel loverboy...

The question was posed to see if fans moreso against the possiblilty of a black Peter Parker/Spider-man is based more on nationality or skin color (Glover being an American, though black skinned) or (a non-American like Bale, though white skinned.) That was the only thing being analyzed.

So far its been made clear that for some it doesn't matter if the actor is white British, white German, or white Russian -- as long as he can look physically like the character, pull off an American accent and/or be white in skin tone (and have good acting ability), he should be able to play Parker/Spider-man without question. On the other hand if the actor can look the part physically, is African American, Asian-American, etc (and also has good acting ability)...then for some/most this is a problem.

My conclusion -- for some/most it is moreso about the actor/character's skin color (the weaker argument)and strict adherence to source material (the best/strongest argument), than it is for the actor to be of the same nationality (a stronger argument) as the character itself, albeit a different skin tone within that nationality (the weakest argument based on a fictional character, who doesn't to my understanding have ethnic-specific, or certain things within his ethnic history that demands Parker/Spider-man only be white/caucasian).

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