Putin is trumpeting May 9th today in his homeland as his genocidal Z armies fire missiles and machine guns indiscriminately into more innocent Ukrainian civilians. The innocent blood shed in his war is on his hands.
The Russian leaders are the real Commies, still behaving like the USSR exists. Commies (and those who still dream of Commie glory) have been responsible for far more civilian deaths than Nazis ever dreamed of.
Now the teen-peeny fool in Moscow has gotten Finland to request a NATO membership with Sweden expected to do the same shortly.
This asshole has managed to undo all the advances that Russia made since Gorbachev and has shown the world once again just how barbaric and ass-backwards Russia really is. He has set Russia back another 40 years.
Actually, Russian has gone much softer on civilians than US. US completely destroyed the infrastructures and the capital of Iraq. About 10% of the population died in that war, mostly civilians. Russia hasn't targeted most infrastructures, and no city has been heavily bombed, as it happened during US invasions.
In comparison with US wars, the percentage of civilians that have died in Ukraine is minimal.
Thank you. What the U.S. did in Iraq is far worse. And lets not forget the American bombing of Serbia in 1995.
Russia invaded Ukraine to prevent their entry in NATO. Though we can't support the massive destruction in Ukraine, Russia had a legitimate reason to invade. The U.S. used some bogus claim of "weapons of mass destruction" to plunder Iraq.
Russia invaded Ukraine to prevent their entry in NATO.
First, Ukraine wasn't going to join NATO. Second, it's none of Russia's business what Ukraine wanted to do or not do. Third, Russia made it eminently clear that it's Russia that can't be trusted and a NATO membership is what all nations that share a border with Russia need.
They've also managed to convince Finland and Sweden to join NATO as well. Talk about a clusterfuck of stupidity and arrogance.
Putin simply wanted to rebuild the "glory" days of the old U.S.S.R. before he croaked, and he thought he'd start by helping himself to Ukraine. Now his biggest accomplishment is showing the world just how pathetic and weak Russia is militarily and how barbaric Russia has been historically and remains to this day.
Russia has their sphere of influence and we have ours. The problem is both sides have nukes.
Yes, Ukraine has been trying to join NATO for years. Only Russia's invasion stopped their attempts.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Tuesday that he’s grateful for the help his nation has received so far, but he called on European leaders to do more to help his country fend off Russia’s invasion, asking for more weapons and heftier sanctions against Moscow. He also said it was apparent to him that Ukraine’s long-standing hope of entering NATO currently faces a closed door.
Ukraine in NATO would have created constant provocation.
Finland and Sweden are our Western allies. It's our obligation to defend them whether or not they join NATO.
Sorry, I care about my country and my family. I do not want nuclear tension over Ukraine, which has historically been a Russian ally and was a dedicated member of the Soviet Union.
Choose your battles and Ukraine is not ours.
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Finland and Sweden see what Russia is doing to Ukraine and want no part of Vladimir Putin's regime. Can you blame them for wanting NATO security from Russia?
You are a freaking fascist. What do we know about your intention and origin?
Recently there was a popular vote in Austria. They said "no" to NATO. Of course you forgot to mention this...
He may be the richest man in the world. If not he's close. No oil wells, electronic innovation. Just unchecked theaft. Was Hitler this wealthy. Was he stealing Germany's resources?
He's protected by a completely immoral country. It will end but probably not until he weakens and dies from illness.
This is a fiction made up by the US propaganda industry.
When you look through American pop culture, movies, TV, news presentation, we have been programming hatred towards Russia
for many decades, over a century, which comes from the old
monarchies' fear of Communism and too much democracy.
Finland and Sweden are Western nations. We defend them. Ukraine calls itself "Little Russia" and was part of the Soviet Union. That's very different and not worth World War III.
Putin stands up for his country and his people and is opposed to promoting the mental illness mentioned in the above.
Globalists promote this garbage to keep people mentally ill, weak, and confused. This way they’re easier to control.
Never in history has a generation been so obsessed with something of so little importance (ones own gender and sexual preference). Pick a side and get on with life. Like everyone has done for the entire history of mankind.
And where did I say I support those homophobic thugs in Russia? And I've got news for you, your average Ukrainian is not exactly liberal on LGBT issues.
This war between Russia and Ukraine is about gay rights?
I don't want my country taking sides in this war and giving billions to a bunch Ukrainian oligarchs. The U.S. is even paying government pensions for these fat old Ukrainian slobs.
I'm neutral on Russia and Ukraine. I don't like either side and it's foolish for the West to take sides in a war which could trigger a nuclear holocaust.
If fear of Russia was justified, no, wouldn't blame them for a second.
There is no reason why Russia would mess with Scandinavia, or Europe.
The bottom line is that Russia is not strong enough militarily or rich enough
economically to expand into Europe - the very idea is only thinkable by
people who are incredibly ignorant.
Even if Russia could blitzkreig into Europe they could not hold the land they took.
Any time I make a comment backed with facts and reason you
come in and drop your very strong and very wrong opinion in an
authoritative way, yet you have no authority and don't seem to
really understand and only repeat the propaganda narrative.
As to Russia attacking Europe? It would be stupidest thing they
could do. No reason to, lots of reasons not to.
Together the EU has a much larger military than Russia and Russia
does not have the soldiers to pacify anything they took in Europe.
They can only do Ukraine because there's all Russians in most of
Eastern Ukraine who have been treated like garbage by the Ukrainian
nationalist in the West.
>As to Russia attacking Europe? It would be stupidest thing they
could do. No reason to, lots of reasons not to.
Together the EU has a much larger military than Russia and Russia
does not have the soldiers to pacify anything they took in Europe
In the event of Europe not being prominently unified by NATO, this would not be so. Russia probably couldn't take Poland, but they could easily take the Baltics without them being in NATO. Or puppeting them.
You're really not thinking. Say Russia did that ...
1. They would have to hold to the Baltics who are fierce fighters for independence and hate Russia ... and for what gain? Nothing. What would Russia gain from taking over the Baltics except a major
headache?
2. Then if they did that they would cut off any chance of ever being trusted or trading with Europe and create hostility for 100 years
or more.
This is why Russia went so light into Ukraine to begin with. Even so the hawks and militants in the US/EU concocted the story you seem
to have gulped down swallowed whole.
You seem to have some ability to reason, and I notice you come
back with the most absurd retorts, so you seem to be acting as
a propaganda agent for the M.I.C.. If you had brains you would
have to admit what I am saying is correct, so the fact that you
don't and keep arguing the same nonsense means you are not
discussing, you are defending this terrible war for no real
apparent reason.
1. The Baltics were already pacified under Imperial Russia, and then the USSR. The population of Moscow is larger than the overall population of those nations combined. If Russia felt like they could annex or puppet them - they could do so (it could be either).
2. Given Ukraine, it doesn't seem to me that Russia cares much about that.
>This is why Russia went so light into Ukraine to begin with. Even so the hawks and militants in the US/EU concocted the story you seem
"Light" by annexing areas that were never part of the Donbass?
>You seem to have some ability to reason, and I notice you come
back with the most absurd retorts, so you seem to be acting as
a propaganda agent for the M.I.C.. If you had brains you would
have to admit what I am saying is correct, so the fact that you
don't and keep arguing the same nonsense means you are not
discussing, you are defending this terrible war for no real
apparent reason.
I defend Ukraines right to defend themselves, and reject Russias blatant landgrab. The notion that someone who disagrees with you automatically just some agent is absurd. I've been accused by another on here of being a wumao (I'm sure you'd regard that particular accusation as absurd).
Ukrainians mainly have to defend themselves from their nationalist thugs and their own governent.
I didn't accuse you of anything, I said your words don't
make sense and I think you know that, so the explanation
for that might be that you are a propagandists - seeing
how you jump on any comment that goes against the
official US narrative.
You use poor arguments as well.
Ukraine was not defending itself shelling the Donbas for 8
years and passing laws to discriminate against ethnic
Russians ... like half the country. That was just provocation
to goad Russia into attacking by threatening ethnic Russians
and setting their goal at getting back Crimea.
>Ukrainians mainly have to defend themselves from their nationalist thugs and their own governent.
Why aren't they doing that now? Got any data that backs this up at all?
>Ukraine was not defending itself shelling the Donbas for 8
years and passing laws to discriminate against ethnic
Russians ... like half the country. That was just provocation
to goad Russia into attacking by threatening ethnic Russians
and setting their goal at getting back Crimea.
What laws, specifically, are you referring to?
You do realise that the Donbass conflict had slowly been reaching a state of frozen conflict prior to Russias invasion?
And how does this justify Russia annexing the Zap Oblast and Kherson?
Get it clear, I am not justifying either Russia or the US actions. Since I am American I have to back my country even if I think it is a stupid mistake that has cost us hundreds of billions of $.
I explain and understand what Russia did and why they did it. A space you are terrorified of and cannot understand.
You shotgun me with stupid questions that you could easily find the answers to and then if I answer you disregard the answer. Like the anti-Russian laws are a well-known complaint in Eastern Ukraine, as well as the shelling of Donbas.
Russia grabbed what is strategic for them to defend so they don't have to do it all over when the US decides to re-arm and push for Ukraine to attack again.
What Ukraine has done has not been good for Ukraine or anyone else, except economically and politically for the US.
The proof that Ukrainians need to protect themselves from their own government is that when they voted in Zelensky all the polls showed they did it because Zelensky promised to end the fighting and make peace.
Then he started a war and began grabbing Ukrainian citizens and drafting them into a war they did not want.
They say millions of Ukrainians fled the country. Does that sound like citizens who have confidence in their government - and now their government is pushing European countries to send back refugee men so they can be forced to fight and die for Ukraine - the most corrupt country in Europe.
Your attempts to whitewash this war are truly despicable.
>You shotgun me with stupid questions that you could easily find the answers to and then if I answer you disregard the answer. Like the anti-Russian laws are a well-known complaint in Eastern Ukraine, as well as the shelling of Donbas.
How would Russia respond if rebels took Tatarstan and declared it independent?
>Russia grabbed what is strategic for them to defend so they don't have to do it all over when the US decides to re-arm and push for Ukraine to attack again.
When was the USA pushing Ukraine to attack Russia?
>Then he started a war and began grabbing Ukrainian citizens and drafting them into a war they did not want.
What war did he start? The one where Russia invaded Ukraine? He made them do that, did he?
>They say millions of Ukrainians fled the country. Does that sound like citizens who have confidence in their government - and now their government is pushing European countries to send back refugee men so they can be forced to fight and die for Ukraine - the most corrupt country in Europe.
Millions of people would flee any country under literal ground invasion from a hostile power regardless of whether or not that hostile power was in the right or not. This isn't the epic gotcha you think it is.
You donkey, you gave all of two minutes through to that - you are just trolling and spamming stupid questions.
> How would Russia respond if rebels took Tatarstan and declared it independent?
Who knows? Who cares?
> When was the USA pushing Ukraine to attack Russia?
When we couped the country and supported their nationalists/Nazis against the Russians in the Donbas who were so mistreated they tried to join Russia.
Do you know any of this and why do you want me to teach you if you don't care and raise red herring after red herring.
The war was started when the shelling started. You are just looking the other way pretending it all started with Russia intiated its Special Military Operation.
Much like Ukraine, basically. Complaining that a country is trying to violently suppressed armed insurrectionists as post-hoc justification for the insurrection itself is absurd.
>When we couped the country and supported their nationalists/Nazis against the Russians in the Donbas who were so mistreated they tried to join Russia.
As usual, denial of the agency of Ukrainians in their protests against the government. Countries that remove pro-Russian or Chinese or anti-western governments via sustained pressure always obviously do so because the evil USA made them do so. It's impossible for people to object to anti-western governments. Right?
And what nationalists and nazis did the US government, specifically, support? Svoboda who managed 4.7% in the 2014 parliamentary election?
>The war was started when the shelling started. You are just looking the other way pretending it all started with Russia intiated its Special Military Operation.
It more started, I suspect, when Russia annexed Crimea if we're going back to 2014.
There is no analogy between Tartarstan and Ukraine, and you just thoughtlessly toss that out without thinking - to prove zero points.
> Countries that remove pro-Russian or Chinese or anti-western governments via sustained pressure always obviously do so because the evil USA made them do so. It's impossible for people to object to anti-western governments. Right?
What a stupid comment. It is an accusation that I am not thinking honestly or clearly when it is you that continually dodges the truth and jumps from BS point to BS point.
> Svoboda who managed 4.7% in the 2014 parliamentary election?
They and others were the ones who got military support and who were willing to fight Russians for the US, so the US put them obliquely in charge of Ukraine through violence and threats on politicians lives. Again, you know this as well as I.
Why did Russia annex Crimea? Answer or not I am done with your race to 1 character columns.
A robot propagandist will never acknowledge certain facts or think about points, you just keep coming back with the same BS. Why not just write your own contention about what happened instead of always wasting my time?
>There is no analogy between Tartarstan and Ukraine, and you just thoughtlessly toss that out without thinking - to prove zero points.
It's a hypothetical. Any state would respond violently to local militia and armed forces just declaring a region independent. Ukraine is doing nothing that Russia would not do if an oblast of theirs declared independence.
>What a stupid comment. It is an accusation that I am not thinking honestly or clearly when it is you that continually dodges the truth and jumps from BS point to BS point.
It's clearly your implication regarding 2014 Ukraine. That they were manipulated and controlled by US intelligence.
>They and others were the ones who got military support and who were willing to fight Russians for the US, so the US put them obliquely in charge of Ukraine through violence and threats on politicians lives. Again, you know this as well as I.
You think Svoboda was put in charge of Ukraine? Any evidence whatsoever for any of this?
>Why did Russia annex Crimea? Answer or not I am done with your race to 1 character columns.
Because they could, and never really supported Crimea being part of Ukraine in the first place. They saw an opportunity due to the pro-Russian president fleeing Ukraine and being removed afterwards and took it. The local population was by far the most supportive of Russia.
This war is about political and economic influence in Europe. With Russia shipping cheap energy to Europe we ... our deep state, so to speak, realized it was a matter of time before Europe would allow Russia in and it would take over the entire Eurasian power block.
Europe is probably better off in every way connecting to the US, but with the influence of Islam in Europe and their violence the future is in doubt.
The US started this war in a clever way, but looking at the end and who benefits either way - it's the US.
>This war is about political and economic influence in Europe. With Russia shipping cheap energy to Europe we ... our deep state, so to speak, realized it was a matter of time before Europe would allow Russia in and it would take over the entire Eurasian power block.
What do you mean by "allow Russia in"? How is it Europe would have "allowed Russia in" without US interference exactly?
I disagree as to the reason. Sure the defense industry will make a lot of money, but if Europe began trading with Russia - Russia has cheap energy, and massive resources, and a small fraction of the population of Europe, maybe 20% of the population of Europe. It is an ideal trade partner and the US could get cut out of all or part of that.
Funny how they first tried to blame the Russians. Why would the Russians bomb their own pipeline? The amount of disinformation and government propaganda we get through a supposedly independent media is frightening.
We just heard our Onan journalist from the Russian-Ukrainian front after his return from the Baltic Sea. 🤿
There he eyewitnessed who destroyed Nord Stream 2.
The evil imperialist USA!
Trust Onan!...he's neutral, as he assures. 🤘🏽
In memory of Orwell's 1984, history will be rewritten:
The evil USA invaded Ukraine and Russia heroically defended their little brother.
Vashe zdorov'ye! 🪆 🍻 🪆
This "mystery" has been solved. The Washington Post finally reported that Ukraine blew up the pipeline. This is just common sense to most of us.
On 26 September 2022, a series of clandestine bombings and subsequent underwater gas leaks occurred on the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipelines. Both pipelines were built to transport natural gas from Russia to Germany through the Baltic Sea, and are majority owned by the Russian majority state-owned gas company, Gazprom. Three separate investigations were conducted by Denmark, Germany and Sweden.[8] In June 2023, The Washington Post reported that the United States had intelligence of an Ukrainian plan to attack Nord Stream, and in November 2023 reported that Roman Chervinsky, a colonel in Ukraine's Special Operations Forces, had coordinated the Nord Stream pipeline attack.
I didn't say all Slavs are fat and corrupt - just the Ukrainian oligarchs who want my money. You can throw homophobe Putin in with them. It's all one Russian mess I want nothing to do with.
You "want nothing to do with it"?!
That's why you constantly defend Putin.
Because he's a slim Slav.
I don't know "Ukrainian oligarchs ".
Only RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS.
Putin bribes, invades and murders people.
And you think, as long as Putin is in power you're safe. Dream on, Onan. ☻
Hopefully you don't wake up with a Russian or Chinese bomb in your bed. 💣
Ok, you're an American oligarch. 🙄 "my money, my money!!!"
Swallow your few coins. 🤘🏽
You constantly defend Putin/Russia and bash Zelenskyy/Ukraine. ☻
And your article is from 2015. ☻☻
Euromaidan was 2013/2014 when the Ukraine got rid of their 'lovely' Russian brothers. The Ukraine works hard to fight corruption, if they aren't just killed by their Russian bros.
Corruption Index Ukraine 🇺🇦
(higher number is better)
2012 = 26
2013 = 25
2014 = 26
2015 = 27
2016 = 29
2017 = 30
2018 = 32
2019 = 30
2020 = 33
2021 = 32
2022 = 33 (Russia 28)
Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦
And you're a corrupt Ami.
2022 USA = 69
2022 Germany = 79
American thieves want our money! ☺
Outdated links. 🤣 Dear, it takes longer than a couple of years for a country to go from the most corrupt hellhole in Europe to EU material. And the American sponsored coup took place in 2014. So they've had plenty of time to clean the place up - and we got nothing - expect a hand out for money.
You keep ignoring that this is not about Ukraine or Russia. It's about endless global war which 1) the West always loses, and 2) which makes a few billionaires even richer.
Take Vietnam. 60 years ago it was worth over a million lives to save it from the commies. We lose. The commies win. In 2023 Andy King is on vacation there.
Hahaha. You think I didn't purposely call him a "gypsy", knowing he's not ethnically Roma?
I know the difference between Romanis and Jews. He's a gypsy because he dances on stage in women's clothes. Oh, and he steals. Disgusting excuse for a man.
He should be tried for war crimes for what he's done to his country and his people.
You think he's not a billionaire in his bunker now?
I am neutral in the dispute between Russia and Ukraine. I'm Orthodox but I have no dog in that fight. Both sides are Orthodox. (I've seen idiots online claim that Ukraine is a Jewish nation lol).
I do not believe the Russian invasion was necessary.
But only Zelensky is asking for my money.
This is an unnecessary war and if Zelensky wasn't a selfish cunt out for his own gain, this death and destruction heaped on the Orthodox people of Ukraine could have been avoided.
You're in Germany so
your reaction may be filtered through a relatively homogrnous society. The U.S. is an immigrant nation. We don't think like that. Slavic, Germanic, Anglo, Greek - we're all immgrants.
Most of the atrocities attributed to the Germans in WWII were done by Russia before the war even started. They just repackaged the horror of it all and dumped it on the Nazi's doorstep. The whole modern age as we know it is one big psy op. The headlines of what went down for reals with the Jews is right in published newspapers of the time. Nothing was hidden. History was just rewritten.