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Manslaughter not murder


George didn't die directly because of the police. They didn't smother or choke him to death. He died of a heart attack brought on by the stress of the interaction later on after they stepped on his neck in COMBINATION with having Covid (yes he had it) and using fentanyl. The police interaction just accelerated it. This was not murder but manslaughter.

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There was nothing from the autopsy to suggest that what they did killed him, he got worked up into a frenzy because he had taken all those drugs when they approached him, he had done the same exact thing months earlier when approached by cops and was taken to the hospital for it. If they had let him run down the street and drop dead in an alley would that be manslaughter?

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Did anybody say it *was* murder?

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Yes. He was convicted of murder. Unjustly in my opinion, but he was

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ah I thought murder had to be intentional , and i dont think he meant to do it ..

but seems murder can be unintentional too .

from wiki:

"On March 8, 2021, Chauvin was put on trial for unintentional second-degree murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter before a jury in the Minnesota Fourth Judicial District Court. On April 20, he was convicted of the charges. "

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I believe first degree murder is intentional, but I used to think the same as you. I assumed unintentional was manslaughter.

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The thing that annoys me most about it is that most everyone in mainstream media and most everyone who's a democrat wants to act like George Floyd was just walking down the street and was beaten to death by cops for no reason.

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That is true, but where this goes off the rails is where Officer Chauvin continued to kneel on Floyd's back *after* he was face down and handcuffed - and continued to do so for nine minutes and continued to do so after Floyd stopped breathing and lost his pulse.

Floyd broke the law and resisted arrest and deserved to be beaten or tased into submission, but once he was completely submissive, the torture has to stop.

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yes it was not murder but usa burned to ground that year because of this case. if they try manslaughter then it burn to ground again! too much political pressure on this case!

if floyd was white man then cops either no change or they do few year for manslaughter.

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George didn't die directly because of the police.


Yes he did.

They didn't smother or choke him to death.


Yes they did.

He died of a heart attack brought on by the stress of the interaction later on after they stepped on his neck in COMBINATION with having Covid (yes he had it) and using fentanyl.


Regardless of his health, continuing to press a man's chest and neck into the ground with his hands behind him causes unbelievable physical stress. Don't believe it? Try it for yourself. Have someone do that to you for 9 minutes and see what this feels like.

This was not murder but manslaughter.


I agree but you're actually contradicting yourself here. If the police were not responsible as you said and Floyd died of latent physical problems and not by being unprofessionally restrained, then even manslaughter is off the table.

Personally, I don't believe it was Chauvin's intent to kill Floyd- it makes no sense considering there were cameras on him and witnesses, both of which he was keenly aware. I also don't think Chauvin is a racist. I think he's a bully who is an equal opportunity asshole who gives good cops (most are) a bad reputation - he would have kneeled on his grandmother's neck if she resisted arrest.

I think he was convicted of 2nd and 3rd degree murder charges because of the notoriety of the case, not the facts. He should have been convicted on manslaughter alone.

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And you can't spell manslaughter without mans laughter

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