They are tearing down his “memorial square “ 🤣 Will this make liberals mad/cry?
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will it make the liberals mad, will they riot ?
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Wonder how many deaths this will prevent
shareHe has a park in Houston. It is in a no go zone so I think the city will not go in and close that.
shareWhy was there one in the first place? The guy was a junkie crook who got what he deserved.
shareSo you support breaking the law then?
shareLOL cry more for your St Floyd of Fentanyl
shareMoviefanatic505 is a complete and utter moron. He only cares about Floyd because his death suits his narrative. Like Nancy Pelosi he’s probably glad and thankful that he died.
shareOne way of getting the truth out of the shell is reduced to a pretty simple question:
"Would you invite St. Floyd into your home to live with you?"
Not one Liberal would answer that question honestly.
Of course not, these elite liberals who want to defund the police live in gated communities and have tax payer funded security. They don’t have to deal with people like Floyd.
shareWhether Floyd was a good person or not is irrelevant. It does not excuse what Derek Chauvin did. End of story. It is okay though justice was served he is going to prison.
shareAgreed with you but Floyd never did nothing in life that justified all this honors he is receiving like parks with his name, even statues is ridiculous one thing is demand justice not need to make a saint of someone who did nothing relevant in life besides broke the law
shareIn no way would I argue him being some martyr or a hero. However people are using his bad past to justify Chauvin's actions. That's irrelevant to the case at hand. So no he is not a saint and some hero to be idolized I agree but Chauvin needs to be dealt with period.
shareIt's irrelevant for the law, but it's relevant for morality
shareWe can discuss morality after Chauvin gets the punishment he deserves. So that means we will be bringing up Chauvin's past as well right? Or are pasts only liable to be brought up for people who are not police officers? You do not get to have it both ways. Which is it?
shareIt does not excuse what Derek Chauvin did.
Chauvin literally did nothing but hold him down while they waited for EMS after Floyd LITERALLY asked them to put him on the ground. Exhausted after struggling with him after they had him in the back seat of the SUV and he kept squirreling about, THEY asked him what he wanted and he TOLD them to put him on the ground.
You can literally watch it from multiple angles and see the facts for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjKjaCvXdf4
Chauvin literally helped hold him down until EMS came and he wasn't even holding him down hard at all, and his knee was mostly positioned at Floyd's shoulder blades. It's ridiculous that a man is being sentenced for 22 years in prison because he DID what the suspect asked him to do while patiently waiting for EMS. share
He said multiple times I can't breathe officer, I can't breathe. That should have been an indicator he shouldn't be leaning on him like that.
shareHe first said that WHILE he was in the backseat of the SUV, which is what led them to ask Floyd what he wanted. HE ASKED to be placed on the ground after saying he couldn't breathe in the backseat of the SUV, which is precisely WHY they called EMS and held him on the ground until EMS arrived.
Had Floyd died in the backseat of the SUV the same people saying Chauvin is a murderer for holding him on the ground would be the same people saying that Chauvin was neglectful for not tending to Floyd while he was in the backseat of the SUV.
Literally, Chauvin and the other cops could not win in that situation.
Had he kept Floyd in the back seat of the SUV he might have caught some flak but he would not be going to jail for murder. Would you rather be criticized or be arrested for murder? Sounds like an easy choice to me. People can say what they want but in the end had he done the suv option how could they charge you the same way for kneeling on him? They couldn't therefore clearly the better choice. Anyway so you think he is completely innocent and should have walked away free?
You realize he had 18 prior complaints prior to George Floyd? He hit a 14 year old black boy in the head with a flashlight which required stiches and kneeled on him for 17 minutes ignoring the boys complaints that he could not breathe. Sound familiar? Sheer coincidence though right? He should have been off the police force long before the George Floyd incident occurred. People such as yourself are the reason these people keep getting slaps on the wrist. You find ways to justify their behavior because they play for your team. Support police no matter what they do.
Would you rather be criticized or be arrested for murder? Sounds like an easy choice to me.
Really? Because if you watch the video Floyd was yelling out he couldn't breathe in the backseat of the SUV.
People can say what they want but in the end had he done the suv option how could they charge you the same way for kneeling on him?
He was going to die regardless, but dying in the back of the SUV would have netted all the police officers with involuntarily manslaughter charges and reckless endangerment, and given the media and ignorant public's willingness to see someone get the noose for a "hate crime" he would still be facing 22 years in prison because he DIDN'T put Floyd on the ground when Floyd asked him.
Anyway so you think he is completely innocent and should have walked away free?
Absolutely. He literally did nothing wrong. They told Floyd to get in the back of the SUV. Floyd resisted and struggled with them the whole time. He finally gets in the back and then screams he can't breathe and ASKS them to put him on the ground. They call EMS and then put him on the ground until EMS arrives. They literally followed protocol AND tried to accommodate the suspect while doing so.
You realize he had 18 prior complaints prior to George Floyd?
Can you list all 18 complaints?
He hit a 14 year old black boy in the head with a flashlight which required stiches and kneeled on him for 17 minutes ignoring the boys complaints that he could not breathe. Sound familiar?
Was the boy a criminal?
You find ways to justify their behavior because they play for your team. Support police no matter what they do.
Not at all. I follow the facts. The video evidence showed Chauvin literally did nothing wrong. You can't even point out the flaw in their tactics if you watch the video(s).
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Like I said you are better off not kneeling on him like that.
Nope I do not believe the charges would have been the same. That is hypothetical and you can not prove that.
You are not supposed to kneel on someone like that! Did he ask the cop to kneel on him like that? He was handcuffed and subdued there was no reason to kneel on him like that. Good that you are not in charge he is going to prison and I am glad he is. Thankfully your type of mentality is dying off and not being tolerated anymore. You guys lost this round.
LOl here we go. So if a person is a criminal and commits a crime it gives the cop the right to do anything he wants correct? Even if the boy was a criminal it showcases a pattern. He kneeled on him for 17 minutes as the boy screamed he could not breathe. Sound oddly familiar to you? He also happened to be black. Tell me why after 18 complaints was he still allowed to be a police officer?
I also follow the facts and disagree with you. He is going to prison and there is nothing you can do about that. Cops need to be held accountable for their actions. Justice prevailed here.
Nope I do not believe the charges would have been the same. That is hypothetical and you can not prove that.
WRONG. Six officers were literally charged for a suspect dying in the back of their van during transport:
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/us/freddie-gray-autopsy-report-given-to-baltimore-prosecutors.html
Had Floyd died in the back of the SUV they still would have been charged.
It was literally a no-win situation for them.
You are not supposed to kneel on someone like that! Did he ask the cop to kneel on him like that? He was handcuffed and subdued there was no reason to kneel on him like that.
That is literally standard police procedure since Floyd was resisting arrest and wouldn't stay still. They kneel on the back of the shoulder blades AWAY from the neck, like Chauvin did, like it shows in the video. Court documents even revealed it was police procedure:
https://www.insider.com/minneapolis-police-trained-to-use-neck-restraint-george-floyd-2020-7
Are you literally saying police shouldn't follow procedure in the face of needing to predict future Left-wing hysteria mobs when a victim overdoses in their custody?
Even if the boy was a criminal it showcases a pattern.
Full stop. Criminals deserve to be punished to full extent of the law based on the crimes they commit.
Cops need to be held accountable for their actions. Justice prevailed here.
Only if you adhere to the rules of a kangaroo court. Thankfully a lot of righteous cops are hightailing it out of urban and high-crime areas. They should. Let the animals fend for themselves and watch as crime rates skyrocket. I hope NO officers show up to save them so they can see what it's like to live in a Mad Max-style society. share
There sentences were not for 22 years one and two I bet you cash money you are better off leaving him in the back of the truck than kneeling on him. Did you follow up to see if those charges stuck? Just because someone is charged with something does not mean it will stick. In Chauvin's case the charges actually stuck.
The man was handcuffed with no weapon. You had 6 other armed police officers. You do not need to kneel on him in order to subdue him. Especially when he is complaining of not being able to breathe. Police procedure does not allow you to kneel on someone's neck. We have all seen the video it was not on his shoulder blades it was on his neck.
Criminals deserve to be punished to the full extent of the law for the crimes they commit. Sure but you have one problem here. Cops are not judge jury and executioner. It is not there job to carry out those verdicts. They simply show up to arrest someone or assess the situation. The punishment is not decided by them. In enforcing they law they must follow it. To which many cops get away with breaking the law well that is about to change.
Animals? Glad to see you see people as animals therefore I assume it is okay to throw cops in that same bucket then? Are all cops pigs? So because the area is a high crime all the people are animals. Okay then all cops are corrupt pigs? Ignorant comment. You can hope all you want you are not in charge of the law and that is a good thing. I do not think all cops are bad but not all are good either. Same thing goes for people that exist in high crime areas.
In Chauvin's case the charges actually stuck.
Literally because of mob hysteria. The video evidence doesn't fit the crime he was charged for. How was it murder and racially motivated when all the cops literally talked to Floyd's ex-girlfriend and friend normally and DIDN'T arrest them? They even asked them WHY Floyd was acting so "squirrely". It's literally there in the video.
I bet you cash money you are better off leaving him in the back of the truck than kneeling on him.
Doesn't matter. They followed protocol and even did what Floyd asked them to do and they were still strung up by insane Leftists for it.
The man was handcuffed with no weapon. You had 6 other armed police officers. You do not need to kneel on him in order to subdue him.
Did you watch the video? Only a couple held him down because he was being erratic and on the verge of spasming, which is why they took him out of the backseat of the SUV after he asked them to be put on the ground.
We have all seen the video it was not on his shoulder blades it was on his neck.
WRONG. Timestamped at 20:34, knee at the shoulder blades:
https://youtu.be/NjKjaCvXdf4?t=1234
Another timestamp at 40:30, knee at the upper shoulder blades:
https://youtu.be/NjKjaCvXdf4?t=2963
Notice how they keep repositioning to keep him steady because he was being erratic for the several minutes until EMS arrived.
Cops are not judge jury and executioner.
No one said they were.
Okay then all cops are corrupt pigs? Ignorant comment.
No, it's the truth. You can see the crime spikes happening right now, nationwide as cops are pulling out of big cities:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/one-city-ready-explode-us-murder-rates-surge-pandemic-2021-06-25/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/homicides-up-nationwide-mayors/2021/06/21/13e5aa46-d058-11eb-9b7e-e06f6cfdece8_story.html share
It's interesting that up there you're saying the fact that Floyd was a criminal is irrelevant but down here you're trying to prove Chauvin's culpability for Floyd's death because of previous complaints against Chauvin that are completely separate. The guy can have 2000 complaints, it doesn't prove anything in this case. Not to say they are complaints and nothing more. It's not like Chauvin was declared ethically guilty the 18 times. From what I remember, he was not declared responsible for a single one.
The way I see things is that it was a political trial. The elite wanted Chauvin to be guilty (Judge, Chauvin's bosses and coworkers and politicians (think of Joe Biden who could not refrain himself to give his opinion before the Judgment). I mean, everything is back in order now. One guy in prison, no more riots, no more looting. Imagine if Chauvin was released, the country would be on fire because of the angry mobs. Wow, the trial in Minneapolis with all the heat and the jury coming in a fortress everyday. You can be sure they thought of the result too. Not to say some members were BLM's activists.
Nope I am stating it showcases a pattern. Why was he still allowed to be a police officer? He kneeled on his neck for over 7 minutes. Forget both of their pasts that is wrong and you deserve to be punished for that. See but that is exactly it, cops get protected and get things thrown out. This has happened for years and people say nothing. Cops should not be above the law period.
See but my problem is had he gotten off you guys would stand behind him and say it wad done fair and square. People like yourself think cops can do no wrong. Fyi riots will continue even with that being done so no that does not prove your case. If he was released of course people would be pissed off. How many times is a cop going to get off with doing something they should not do? Had it not been filmed you would hear nothing about this. I can prove to you another case done by police that was totally wrong and no one said a word.
No one thinks cops do no wrong. But liberals sure spent a lot of time and energy blaming all cops for systemic racism and literally cut hundreds of millions from police departments across the country. Predictably, a rise in crime ensued. Not so predictably, but still not entirely surprising, liberals are now starting to claim it was the Republicans who defunded the police. Try and wrap that one around your head.
shareOh yes there are plenty that thinks cops can do no wrong. There have been many cases where cops have acted unlawfully and people will defend them even if they are blatantly in the wrong. Why is that so bad? Well number 1 it means you view cops as being above the law. Number 2 it creates disconnect from the citizens which makes a bad relationship with police and citizens. Number 3 it makes the other side feel justified in overacting because the problem is not being dealt with. If you actually deal with the corrupt cops it gives you strong legs to stand on to tell people there is no systemic racism. When you let cops do what they want it does not bode well for your point.
shareNo, they just don't want you to smear all cops for the actions of a very few. That leads to BLM member walking up to a cop and shooting him in the back of the head.
shareDo not lie. Okay then do not smear all black people for something a few of them do. It works both ways. If you guys smear what black people do it is only fair they get to smear what cops do.
shareSmear black people? If you say not all black people are perfect, that is basically considered 'smearing' by today's liberal standards of constant pandering for the black vote. They are so scared of losing that voting bloc they won't even admit black people ever do a thing wrong.
shareYou are debating me not the liberals. Not all blacks are good but not all cops are good either. There is good and bad in every category of people. I recognize some people think blacks can do no wrong but you need to acknowledge that there are people who thinks cops can do no wrong. See people like you want us to concede to not all blacks are saints but then get quiet when discussing that not all cops are good. Be consistent.
share"People like yourself think cops can do no wrong". I could use the same argument against you : People like you think that cops are always wrong.
Yet you're wrong, I'll be the first to say if a cop did wrong. I know they can be prone to violence. But I have eyes so I can watch a video and a brain to resist the mass hysteria. Remember that cop who shot a dude in the back running away ? That was wrong and I said it. Chauvin has nothing to do with that. Floyd was high and resisted, complaining he so-called "couldn't breath" before he set a foot in the car, asked to be put down, Chauvin was not even putting pressure on the neck. The cops were calm and professional at all times. Compare with Rodney King and the sheer violence. Two different worlds. But we live in an age where race is so important, we have a bad video and we want a scape goat so let's go.
No you can't. There have been cases I have seen where the cop is justified in doing something even if it might end tragically. You only use lethal force as a last resort. Only if your life is endangered.
No the video shows him kneeling on his neck. You do not do that to an unarmed citizen for over 7 minutes. It's okay though I'm glad folks like you aren't in charge. Chauvin is going to jail where he belongs.
Sure, just like Alexeï Navalny, Voltaire and lots of other people did for political reasons.
And by the way, he's in appeal so don't be too cocky.
Don't hold your breath. Lots of you assumed he was going to be set free and I laughed once he got convicted. Keep on supporting bad cops. Since you do not like what is going why don't you leave the country?
share1. I don't know why anyone would laugh about anyone being convicted. It seems pretty vengeful to me.
2. I don't support bad cop just like I wrote above and gave example of a bad cop I didn't support. But Chauvin is not a bad cop for what happened to Floyd in my opinion. He's the victim of the actual race hysteria. Maybe he's bad for something else but I don't have that evidence in front of me;
3. I don't have the habit to flee my country anytime something I don't like happens. It seems pretty coward to me.
kneeling on a neck is practiced by ALL COPS of ALL RACES on ALL RACES of suspects. It's LITERALLY a NON-VIOLENT approach to resisting arrest. If you are dumb enough to believe a guy talking nonstop with a police on his neck is killing him by suffocation, then there is nothing to discuss because you are an ABSOLUTE MORON!
No one has ever died of this, INCLUDING the man who was OD'ing before your eyes in that video, thanks to his genius idea of swallowing all his speedballs before being arrested. Something he was caught on bodycam doing in 2019. That's his M.O. just like crying for his mommy like a bitch. Like a dumbass, he tries everything to stop a cop from doing their job - Putting this scum in jail but he's better off where he belongs, 6 feet under. He sold dangerous drugs to kids and walked around with COVID exposing everyone!
Fuck him. I have no sympathy for anyone who completely ignores the law and gives the people who try to protect us a hard time. I afford any police officer dealing with CRIMINALS every benefit of the doubt and know how mentally taxing it is to deal with these worthless dregs of society, so if they happen to lose their cool, I still stand by a cop unless the person is innocent (wrong suspect/profiling). If a cop uses excessive force to apprehend a murderer, I DONT CARE! I would give him a medal, and two weeks suspension WITH PAY, and a beer from me. Fuck that bullshit. The shit's chess, it aint checkers!
Slow down there Alonzo Harris. Well I am glad you are not in charge of what the police can and can not do. Cops are not judge, jury and executioner. It is not their job to kill unless it is in self defense.
shareIt's their job to kill to protect others. Someone resisting arrest is a terrorist threat and a menace to society. If someone is running away, there is the potential to trespass, home invade, abduct someone as a hostage, etc. If someone is speeding off, they will ignore driving laws and potentially crash into someone or run over a pedestrian. As soon as a criminal decides to disobey a lawful order from a police officer, that cop has every right to use whatever is necessary to put them in police custody. DEAD OR ALIVE, you're coming with me.
shareJust because you are arresting someone does not give them the right to commit police brutality. If they are resisting a lawful arrest key word there lawful then they have the right to use means necessary to subdue the person resisting arrest. Killing should be a last resort though. Plenty of police officers will say someone resisted arrest to get away with police brutality, and plenty of them have acted outside the law as well. Not all cops are bad but not all are good either. Some people like you will defend cops no matter what they do.
shareStop moving the goal post to make a worthless point. It's friggen pathetic and getting you nowhere! Chauvin did not commit any police brutality that wasn't authorized by the state. He was administering the sanctioned procedure for excited delirium when dealing with a tweaked out junkie. You kneel on them to prevent them from hurting anyone or themselves until a medic arrives. He died because he swallowed all his drugs because he knew he would be going to PRISON for a LOOOOOONG time. He choose to go to hell instead. Good call. Smartest decision Floyd ever made.
shareI did not move the goal post you did. Seems the jury and judge thought otherwise to what you are claiming. Second Chauvin should have been removed from the police force a long time ago. He had 17 prior complaints about his behavior and antics before his encounter with Floyd. Nowhere am I saying Floyd was a good guy but neither was Chauvin. You realize he had another occurrence where he hit a 14 year old boy in the face with a flashlight so hard he required stiches and then he kneeled on the boy for 17 minutes and the boy was claiming he could not breathe. Sound oddly familiar? Chauvin is going to jail where he belongs, perhaps you can write letters to him supporting him while he is in prison. I am sure he will need a friend in there.
shareHe said a lot of bullshit. Thats what bullshit artists do. He said he was claustrophobic too despite sitting in a SUV moments before being arrested when he was swallowing a bunch of speed balls that caused him to not breath well. So shut up with your stupid narrative of someone else causing his breathing problems. I hope a police officer actually does what you say was done to Floyd, to you. You need a taste of irony.
shareThis was your pathetic retort? We are done here man. Go and write letters to Chauvin while he is in prison. He will need all the support he can get. Anyway be off bud you lost this round.
shareSo true, the only thing they should do is build an outhouse over his grave so reasonable people can take a piss on it on a regular basis. The world is better off without him.
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