I used to get a laugh out of seeing Alex Jones every once in a while make a fool of himself, or get in trouble, but I would never follow him or subscribe to any of his ridiculous theories. So, I wonder what is the point in denying Sandy Hook? Is there some kind of narrative or conspiracy that makes any sense at all I'm this?
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Are you serious? If so, you are a sick human being
shareOf course, they cause a LOT of problems and never do anything good. Prove to me that a conspiracy theorist made the world a better place.
AMJF,
You can't be serious! You may not like conspiracy theories but it does fall under free speech, you'd have to eliminate free speech to make them illegal.
Plus, there's been quite a few conspiracy theories that have turned out to be true. It's easy to look that up on the Internet. If you've know how to use Google or Bing, I advise you to use it, my friend.
This link will get you started...
https://www.rd.com/list/conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true/
However, I'm not sure about AJ's theories, I don't listen to the guy but I wouldn't say he deserves to go to jail for his theories.
You're insane. Any police detective that investigates a crime is a conspiracy theorist of sorts. People have the right to form hypotheses that deviate from conventional media sources and you have the right to discard them. Your idea would set the world on a dark(er) path.
shareBullshit. People like Jones are intentionally trying to send "the world" on a darker path.
INTENTIONALLY creating a large forum to disrupt orderly society, for no purpose than to make $$ for himself while feeding some darker agenda.
This Free Speech excuse is just a handy and cheap excuse to allow people to be ugly and deceitful and tear at the fabric of society. Just as bad as intentionally withholding physical and mental nourishment to a population when there are means to help.
A lot of governmental cover-ups are conspiracy theories until they are not. Like with covid escaping from a lab, was pretty much branded as a conspiracy theory for a long time and now it looks like the most probable explanation.
Knowing the truth doesn't make the world a better place????
All conspiracies are not true. In fact most are not. Sandy Hook being a staged event was absolutely an insane claim. Lots of conspiracies have caused tons of harm to the world.
share"All conspiracies are not true." false. Even if you want to say "all conspiracy theories are not true" is still false.
"Sandy Hook being a staged event was absolutely an insane claim." true.
One doesn't exclude the other.
Watergate was a conspiracy theory until it was true. Covid numbers being inflated was a conspiracy theory until they admitted it is true. The USA studying corona viruses in Wuhan conspiracy theory proved to be true as well. I wouldn't be surprised if covid lab leak "conspiracy theory" will turn out to be true either - at least it has become a "most probable theory" - but most likely it will be covered up.
read this article and maybe you'll understand why some things are branded as "conspiracy theories" when they shouldn't. Hint: politics have a huge impact.
https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n1656
Which is why I said all of them are not true. Then followed up with most are not. Which showed I acknowledged some of them can be true. However to act as if a conspiracy theory is always true would be foolish. Comprehend what you read.
You do not get to offer up a conspiracy and pretend you have facts to prove this claim. Until it is proven that is all it is a conspiracy theory. So do you believe Alex Jones about Sandy Hook?
"Which is why I said all of them are not true."
When you said that it kinda means that no conspiracy theory is true. Do you understand??
Maybe if you said "not all of them are true" would had been more clear.
"So do you believe Alex Jones about Sandy Hook?" i don't believe AJ about pretty much anything. I can't stand to watch that guy and I never did.
Which is why I followed up with in fact most are not. This was me implying that some have proven to be true.
So it is fine to write him off as a conspiracy theorist then. I do not believe most conspiracies. Most of the time it is people with too much time on their hands. It makes people feel important when you are in on some big secret the majority of the world is not. I do not believe myself to be that special and I do not need that type of validation.
"Which is why I followed up with in fact most are not."
Yeah, which led to a contradiction, sounded more like a "double think" and/or cognitive dissonance than "explanation".
" It makes people feel important when you are in on some big secret the majority of the world is not. I do not believe myself to be that special and I do not need that type of validation."
Correct, but it's naive to believe that there are no conspiracies and that the government and other institutions don't hide ANYTHING.
Sometime believing a conspiracy theory IS the rational thing to do after you have all the data and you observe what's going on.
Remember when people were saying "they count people WITH covid, not just people SICK DUE covid, if you are in hospital for a broken leg and you test positive you are counted as a covid hospitalization"???
And everyone was like "neah, that's a conspiracy theory".
Well, surprise bitches.
I'm not discussing COVID with a person like you. Especially with that surprise comment it shows you are one of those irrational people. I never said the government doesn't hide anything but there is a line of cooks that believe every conspiracy theory out there without questioning it.
Until it's proven to be true I don't put stock in conspiracy theories. So far my batting average is better than those that believe most conspiracies.
You have no place to discuss covid issues with me, you're right on that.
"Especially with that surprise comment it shows you are one of those irrational people."
How exactly is that irrational?
"Until it's proven to be true I don't put stock in conspiracy theories."
so you can see it with your own eyes but until the government admits the problem you are like "neah, what I see it's not real, I would rather believe the government".
And my comment wasn't about covid, covid was just a recent example, was about exactly what I said above: it was conspiracy theory although it was visible until Fauci went on camera and said it.
Naive and dumb.
As I said I am not discussing covid with a closed minded person like you.
It has nothing to do with the government. I do not believe a conspiracy theory unless it is proven. Conspiracies about stuff other than government exist also. My batting average of not believing them until proven is rather good. People like you want to believe any conspiracy which puts the person you disagree with in a negative light. I do not role that way.
"As I said I am not discussing covid with a closed minded person like you."
YOU Are the closed mind one. Not me.
"My batting average of not believing them until proven is rather good. People like you want to believe any conspiracy which puts the person you disagree with in a negative light. I do not role that way."
And this proves how closed mind you are, you blindly prove the government until they say "ooops, we did the bubu, sorry".
Being open minded doesn't mean blindly accepting bullshit, neither from the government neither for the likes of Jones. Being open minded means taking ALL the information and making up your own ideas.
Open minded by definition means: "willing to consider new ideas; unprejudiced."
Which OBVIOUSLY you're not. I'm. Case closed.
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1476710278096166917
Anyone that said this before it was a "conspiracy theory". You would say that you don't believe it because you would wait for the government to admit their lies.
And you dare to speak about open minded or close minded????
LOL!!!
Again nothing about government. I am rather bored with this conversation already. Anything else or we done here?
share"The meaning of CLOSED-MINDED is not willing to consider different ideas or opinions : having or showing a closed mind."
Again, this proves that YOU are the close minded one.
Re-evaluate your vocabulary.
And if you have nothing to say stop posting.
I do have things to say but I am not going to waste my words and time on a silly person like you. Get off this board, it will make it a better place.
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You said NOTHING of value so far.
And you keep wasting time posting bullshit so your argument that "you don't want to waste time posting valuable info or arguments" it's just bullshit and shows how dishonest you are and it proves that you don't have "things to say" ;)
That's better. Don't violate the rules and play nicely. Your violation of the rules and disgusting behavior are not welcome on this board. since I like amusing myself I guess I will play. Why should I humor conspiracy theories when most of them are false?
share"Why should I humor conspiracy theories when most of them are false?"
That's not the point. The point is to be able to look at the data and see if there are any things that are not ok.
Again, like with covid: seeing that things are not ok (the blatant disregard of natural immunity as an example when all studies showed better protection than vaccines is NOT the same as "humoring" the idea that vaccines are going to kill us all!).
In the spring of 2020 I was one of those that supported mandatory vaccinations in the light of "protecting the weak". After observing the facts and actions of the government I cannot any longer support their non-sense (although I still am a supporter of mandatory vaccinations when it MAKES SENSE!!!)
"Conspiracy theories" are a lot of times based on irregularities and things that are fishy with the "general" narrative - the idea is not to believe the "conspiracy theories" but to see, observe, question, ask for investigations of those particular irregularities.
I'm talking about this kind of situations: from CNN, about Pfizer:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/04/02/pfizer.bextra/index.html
If it's too much for you to read:
https://youtu.be/7ehUWAsSvFw
Yes, most conspiracy theories are bogus, but NOT ALL.
I never said all of them are bogus. I however don't put stock in them until it's proven to be true. I find it funny that people like yourself will demonize the government to no end. However you don't through any skepticism to private corporations that do shady things as well.
share" However you don't through any skepticism to private corporations that do shady things as well."
This shows me how little you understand.
The links I provided are about a ... gasps ... corporation. Pfizer.
OF course a LOT of government shenanigans are in tandem with corporations.
Really, are you THAT naive to say something that dumb???
I'm not granting you the right to talk about COVID. Anything COVID related from you will be ignored. You don't freely get the right to talk about COVID you have to earn it with me. So anything else you want to say?
shareWTF???
What is in what I said in my last post covid related???
Oh, you don't even understand what I was saying???? Or you didn't read those articles about Pfizer? From 2010. There was no covid in 2010 you bozo.
Hahahaha, that was a perfect example of me talking about a big corporation and you understanding ... nothing.
Man, you are ...
You are just ignorant, biased and you lack understanding on SO MANY LEVELS AND TOPICS ;)
I bet you have nothing real to say about covid either. Basically you didn't say anything on any topic to be honest ... the only thing that you really said was "not all conspiracy theories are true". Nothing beside that. And I don't even disagree with that :p
So maybe stop posting if you still don't have anything else to say ...
PS: I don't need you to grant me any rights, I talk about whatever I want.
I figured it was covid related since people such as yourself can not help themselves. I get to decide what you will discuss with me. You have no rights to talk about covid.
No you will not if it violates the rules. You already had a hateful reply told to me deleted. If you violate the rules again I will report you again.
"I figured it was covid related since people such as yourself can not help themselves."
And as usually you were WRONG. Again (I know, it's redundant to add again again but it enforces the idea).
And it proves your dishonesty since you reply without checking the information provided. It shows that you are NOT interested in what the truth is, you are only interested in spreading bullshit.
"You have no rights to talk about covid."
I have the right to talk about anything I want to. You have the right to not answer.
Looks like you are quite ignorant on what rights are as well.
And on covid: I bet you would have NOTHING relevant to say on covid because you don't know anything about covid, That's why you avoid talking about covid.
Nope when responding to me I get to call the shots on what you will or will not talk about. I am revoking your rights to talk about covid. If you break the rules like before you will be reported again. The minute you broke the rules of this board is where you lost the right to talk about covid.
shareFollow the rules. If you do not you will be reported.
shareI'm surprised you spent so much time arguing with someone who wrote:
"All conspiracies are not true."
And then it's like he realized his error...but instead of correcting his error and revising the sentence, he added an contradictory one afterwards: "In fact most are not."
That's absolutely hilarious that someone would communicate so absurdly, and then defend it. XD
I hope English isn't your first language.
We have a handy, well know aphorism made famous by William Shakespeare (a man considered to be quite good at English), "All that glitters is not gold". It is universally recognised and understood to mean that not everything that glisters, or glitters, is gold. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_that_glitters_is_not_gold
It should be a nincompoop that doesn't get this and furthermore interprets the clarification that most, or the majority of, conspiracy theories are not true as a correction of a perceived error. Especially when the author could have just edited that "error" before posting.
Your reply would have been a decent attempt at trolling if it weren't the fact that the author admitted that it was a correction of a perceived error immediately in his next post.
shareOh boy. English is not your strong suit is it?
Moviefanatic did not acknowledge an error. They explained that they made further clairification of what proportion of conspiracy theories are not true because they anticipated dumies like you and asom not understanding. In fact Moviefanatic pointed it out again to highlight how Asom not only doesn't understand basic well know expressions. But also that they don't even read the whole post ,which would have helped them to understand. If they were too stupid to get it by themselves.
Troll harder man.
At the very least, use your real account.
does $800K per day sway your ability to deny reality?
sharewatching the news on this earlier i was confused on why his followers harassed the parents of one of the children murdered, calling them day & night calling them liars, insanity.
shareWhat does he think happened... that they were filming a movie at the school? The kids were actors and the blood was make-up? Totally ludicrous.
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Is there some kind of narrative or conspiracy that makes any sense at all I'm this?
but this particular iteration seems to have started coming steadily in from the fringes after the siege at Waco.
The "siege" at Waco? Try the "murder" at Waco perpetrated by the federal government.
There may or may not have been murder perpetrated by the federal government -- that is a point of contention -- but, either way, there was undeniably a siege. So I think I'll stick to choosing my own words if it's all the same to you.
shareleft-wing paranoia is a danger to america
shareWhich is the kind of bullshit claim organized conservative extremists come up with to obfuscate their own behavior.
Since they have enjoy having nut-job cult members under their umbrella, they simply throw this claim at Democrats because if they don't they reveal themselves as harboring dangerous elements to maintain relevance.
Since they are known to infiltrate peaceful groups so they appear violent, they claim this is what the left does, and these examples happen over and over.
It's so they can perpetrate evil while pointing the finger elsewhere.
Don LeMON
amazing how a post about a literal right wing paranoid conspiracy theorist spreader. and you cant even stay on topic and have to blame the left. seek help
shareI never heard him say that. He said there were anomalies in the official story, and some of the supposed parents were listed on a crisis actors' site.
I'm not a faithful watcher, but I do recall he denied saying no one was killed or it never happened. He did say it was used by gun-grabbers to bolster their case.
He said there were anomalies in the official story
That's putting it mildly. For hours after the shooting almost every media outlet had mis-reported the name of the shooter as Ryan Lanza, his brother. It was truly pathetic reporting. Still, Jones's wild accusations about Sandy Hook based on the unsurprising incompetence of mainstream media is abhorrent. Jones would have gone a long way toward rehabilitating his image had he admitted he was wrong a long time ago.
At Nuremberg, Herman Goering would heckle and mock the prosecutors if they mispronounced or mistranslated something, mis-spoke and said something happened in the morning when it happened early in the afternoon or vice versa. Innocuous shit that could all be cleared up and made no material difference to the actual case being presented. In his mind though all these small "victories" meant he was discrediting the evidence of the genocide of millions of people.
It's clear that the lunatic right has adopted this tactic too. They can at least convince themselves that nothing that is at odds with their outlook on life has any value as long as they can split hairs and nitpick.
Media reports aren't even "the official story". It's completely redundant to undermine a police investigation on the basis of the media misreporting something.
Pathetic? Maybe. Did it mean there was some sort of conspiracy that led Jones to insist that the shooting was a hoax and no one died? That the parents were actors? No, inaccurate reporting soon after an incident does not mean hoax.
I don't think Jones ever thought the shooting was a hoax. When he screams hoax, he gets attention and brings more business to his website so he can sell more useless crap.
I don't think Jones ever thought the shooting was a hoax. When he screams hoax, he gets attention and brings more business to his website so he can sell more useless crap.
This is what I think as well. He's clearly not an idiot. He's like an old time snake oil salesman.
It's cause he's a retard.
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