Reading this description it say growing up with his sister Lily... He didn't grow up with a sister named Lily. He grew up with a brother named Andy. Andy changed his name long after they both grew up so how the fuck does one grow up with sister that didn't exist.
shareEasy. Stay the course. Follow the plan. Mental illness is heroic.
shareEnabling someone that is delusional isn't helping anyone. That's the nuttiness of these liberal loons that think because someone says they are woman then bingo, they were always a woman... I suppose if this idiot had claimed they were an eagle that the liberal loons would toss them from a building.
shareAs long as they don’t do something Hitlarian and declare all lives matter.
shareIf you go on their wikipedia page or if you were to seek out an actual comprehensive biographical profile then you would undoubtedly find that they discuss the fact that they TRANSITIONED into being sisters and that, yes, in fact, they both were born male
This is a fucking IMDb bio, I hardly think they care about an in-depth description when all that really matters for IMDb is describing their film careers. They don't bother going into the fact that they were both, at one point, brothers because it would be unnecessary and they are a mainstream website that has no motive to court controversy
This should be common sense, christ. You people love to say how liberals whine about everything as you literally whine about fucking everything
Anyone using wikipedia for a source of reliable info has some serious problems. Even the guy that created wikipedia has written it off as junk.
shareDo you have education in psychology, physiology, psychiatry, endocrinology, or even medicine?
Have you researched transgenderism at all? Outside of a google search that is and had that study peer reviewed?
If not, what makes you an expert on the subject and what the proper treatment is? Where is your backed up research that
1. it is a delusion
2. acceptance isn't the treatment
Also, this isn't a political issue so stop making it one.
No one needs a degree to know when someone is delusional. When a man thinks he is a woman he is just delusional as when a man thinks he is parrot. If you are too stupid to understand than then you should probably make sure there are no sharp objects nearby.
shareAgain, even if it is a delusion, what is your expertise to be able to know what the best treatment would be?
shareYou don't have to know how to treat someone with a delusion to know that pretending the delusion is real is not going to help the person only enable their delusion.
shareACTUALLY...YES YOU DO.
shareUmmm what? So you know how to treat delusions? What is your expertise on that?
shareYou don't treat delusional people you lock-em up. Do you think you can treat a rabid dog?
share"You don't treat delusional people you lock-em up."
Uhhh, what???
So you admit that you know nothing about modern psychiatry or psychology
Because that is not how modern psychiatrists treat delusional mental states. We don't have lunatic asylums anymore. Hospitalization is one step of the process, but it isn't always necessary and most people undergoing delusions are not automatically hospitalized
I know that you understand this and you're just being dense on purpose because you just want to get the hate out and put it down somewhere. But understand that everything you are saying is objectively wrong
Just because a bunch of liberal cunts managed to get asylums closed doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. If someone is disconnected from reality lock them up because who the fuck knows what they are going go to... and that's the kind gentil thing to do because the best option is to put a bullet in their skull like you would a rabid dog.
shareWhy do you feel the need to make every thing political? You must be a really miserable person. Maybe you need to be locked up.
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of the closet?
how brave
Yeah. Not a comparison that makes any sense.
You know what else used to get people locked up in asylums? Masturbation, epilepsy, and let's not even get into being a woman, because many reasons could get you locked up. So yeah, isn't a good thing that we've made progress and advancements in the field of mental health?
If you look at the percent of the population with a mental illiness it is higher now than it ever has been... so clearly the current limp wristed attempt to treat it hasn't worked with a shit.
shareSure the population with a mental illness is bigger then ever. How do you think the left wins elections without any reasonable plan?
shareBefore Wokies corrupted psychiatry, the DSM called it Gender Identity Disorder.
shareOkay, like I asked Thomas, how would you treat it? Perhaps you feel like you know more? I'm sure you would take treatment from some random person on the internet for any other illness like cancer.
So what if gender dysphoria is a mental illness? If acceptance is a treatment, why are you so afraid to just mind your own business and not care? Just treating them with kindness is too difficult?
Okay, like I asked Thomas, how would you treat it?
1. Gender is a social construct. It is not the same as biological sex.
2. What is woke creed? Less than 1% of the population identify as trans. What does that have to do with random people on the internet knowing more than doctors and experts in the field and telling others how to treat people?
I can translate because I am semi-fluent in alt-right gibberish: he is saying that because the woke left deifies transgenderism, that more people are coming out as transgender even though they are not genuinely suffering from the condition known as Gender Dysphoria
Presumably out of a desire to be exalted by their peers, sort of like how certain right-wingers go out of their way to say bigoted things so that they can be exalted by their peers
While I appreciate the translation, I think it's ridiculous to assign a political leaning to something that affects people all over the world and throughout history to some sort of American right and left squabble.
shareOh, I agree. But that's how Americans are about their politics. They feel entitled to give strong opinions on anything and everything. And people's experiences are treated as mere bullet-points on a political portfolio or as pawns in a political chess match
It's very gross, but that's just the way it is. And I'm not under the illusion that America is alone in this. Most of the world is not particularly tolerant of trans people, just like they weren't (and some parts still aren't) tolerant of homosexuals. The conversation just happens to play out in a very loud, abrasive way here because that is the nature of Americans
Gender is a social construct. It is not the same as biological sex.
What is woke creed?
Less than 1% of the population identify as trans.
What does that have to do with random people on the internet knowing more than doctors and experts in the field and telling others how to treat people?
I'm really not understanding your point.
Just because gender is based on biological sex, it doesn't mean it's the same thing.
I know the definition of creed, thank you. But what is "the woke creed"? You are always complaining about it. What does it entail?
I have never said that I know what transgenderism is. I don't know if it's a mental illness or a physiological one. My point is that on this page and Elliot Page's page there are so many "keyboard experts" who know exactly what it is and how these people should be treated. Usually it is not with kindness. All I am asking is here is what is thomas998's expertise in this area that they are so convinced that these people need to be locked away in a mental asylum?
Why is it so difficult to have empathy and just to be kind? If that is part of the so called woke creed, then sign me up.
Just because gender is based on biological sex, it doesn't mean it's the same thing.
I know the definition of creed, thank you. But what is "the woke creed"
All I am asking is here is what is thomas998's expertise in this area that they are so convinced that these people need to be locked away in a mental asylum?
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Why is it so difficult to have empathy and just to be kind?
When it comes to trans individuals I think you and I are on the same page for the most part. When it comes to your reasons as for why people can't be kind I object. I'm not saying that you are wrong on all counts. Society likes to swing from one extreme to another. Right now I will agree that some parts of political correctness are really out there. I know that the pendulum will swing back, but hopefully not as far the other way. I truly believe that most people on this planet fit somewhere in the middle. Right now the fringe voices on both sides are really loud, but I do not feel that they are the majority of any side.
That being said, when you talk about males being supportive until they are accused, I have to ask you if you have been falsely accused? I think that the media has misrepresented the #metoo movement, but I do think that most women and a fair amount of men have experienced sexual harassment. Not all of that are illegal acts and sometimes we just want to say it's not cool when that happens. The reactions to some of these accusations may not fit the crime. I do want to know where all these false claims are? I'm not denying that it has happened, not at all, but I'm not sure it's anywhere near the amount that you seem to suggest. As a woman and a survivor of both childhood and adulthood sexual abuse, I feel that false accusations are just as bad as an actual assault. I feel that they should be punished harshly. They really harm those of us who have been abused. But....don't equate lack of evidence as freedom from guilt from the crime. Look at the reactions to any accusation now. Especially on here. It's disgusting and just further proof why victims don't come forward right away.
That is also not a justifiable reason to stop being kind, especially towards a group of people who have hate coming at them in all directions. It's really easy to give into hate, but that hate will destroy you as much as the group of people you are aiming it at.
"Kindness is a social capital, and it's not unlimited."
Coward's answer.
It's actually pretty brave. When the concept of "kindness" is constantly leveraged against you, compelling you to give one inch, after another inch, after another inch, after another inch, to the point where you are being compelled to say things that you don't believe at all, and that are the antithesis of physical, biological, scientific reality, then pushing back against "kindness" becomes pretty fucking brave.
shareHE GREW UP WITH HIS SIBLING WHO IS HIS SISTER LILY....PRETTY SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND...WHY DO YOU DICKLESS CLOSET MONSTERS GET SO HUNG UP ON OTHER PEOPLE'S SHIT?
shareHE GREW UP WITH HIS SIBLING WHO IS HIS SISTER LILY....PRETTY SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND...WHY DO YOU DICKLESS CLOSET MONSTERS GET SO HUNG UP ON OTHER PEOPLE'S SHIT?
I'M NOT WOKE...I ALSO DON'T CARE IF I SCREW UP SOME WORDS...MY INTENTION IS HONEST AND FAIR...THOSE GUYS ARE CHICKS NOW...I,LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AM ADAPTING TO THINGS THAT ARE NEW TO ME.
shareMY INTENTION IS HONEST AND FAIR.
THOSE GUYS ARE CHICKS NOW
I,LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AM ADAPTING TO THINGS THAT ARE NEW TO ME.
DO I BELIEVE THEY ARE WOMEN NOW?...BIG QUESTION...THE ANSWER YES AND NO...WE ALL KNOW WHAT THEY HAD TO UNDERGO TO BECOME WOMEN...SO NO THEY AREN'T "NATURAL BORN WOMEN"...BUT THEY DID GO THROUGH A LOT TO BECOME WOMEN AND THEY ARE NO LONGER MEN...SO YES,THEY ARE WOMEN...AS FAR AS THIS ISSUE AND ME IS CONCERNED...I AM HIGH AS FUCK...I TYPE RAMPANT RIDICULOUSNESS...WE SHOULD ALL BE THANKFUL I MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL.
shareI agree with this. They are completely blurring the lines and the facts. Trying to make it more acceptable.
shareClearly, you don't understand the holy miracle of gender identity proclamation. It cleans one retroactively from the original sin of being born a penis-carrier.
Praise be!