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Can we finally drop the "the shooter was a leftist" talking point?


Not only is he a confirmed registered Republican, but his classmates all call him a conservative.

Even the "Progressive donor" argument is filled with holes as it was AFTER the election, only 15 dollars (possibly just some school bet on the results) and he didn't vote during the primaries so he clearly wasn't a faking.

At this point it's just irresponsible to deny who tried to kill the president:Some right-winged Zoomer who played too many shooting games.

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Sorry, but it was haters like you who loaded the weapon. You can't buy your way out of the debt that easy.

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I’m certainly glad the right doesn’t participate in irresponsible or violent rhetoric. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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At 21 years of age and given what we know about him, I don’t think he was anything but confused, probably mentally ill, angry and filled with misdirected hatred, towards himself as well as the world.

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I read that donations were made by some old dude with the same name. That's where confusion came.

He was a republican. But trumpists will never admit it and try to lie themselves out.

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The address the donations came from matched the address of the shooter according to far left CNN just last night. More far left conspiracy theories. This guy was one of your own.

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Nah it was confirmed to be him. The issue is that the donation has zero context towards it. So it could've been a bet, it could've been some sort of change in mind. There's just not enough information.

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much as I would like to think you are right , "the donation could have been a bet" is pretty weak sauce.
You could use that same generic reasoning to reverse the implications of any action
Its pretty much the same as Maga's ever popular "False flag" excuse which I'm sure they'll be rolling out for this event too

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I'm not saying it was one. Just that there's no way to know what the donation was for. Meanwhile several classmates have already confirmed he was a conservative.


As for maga, their opinions don't matter they'll excuse anything.

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Maybe they are saying the shooter is not lefthanded. Then he must have shot with his weaker hand.

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If you take inflation into account, Lee Harvey Oswald's love and undying support for the president he was framed for shooting dead in Dallas would have been confirmed if only he had dropped a dollar bill into a collection at a local civil rights campaign three years prior to the assassination.

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Trump will be the first to say that he was mentally ill. That's what he does whenever there is a mass shooting. Now it's personal, I suppose.

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Sure. I guess he will be your president though. Commiserations. I'm not a Republican and not a voter and not even in the Western hemisphere.

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Thanks! If I lived in the US, I would quickly die jobless, without insurance, with a lesbian girlfriend - I drive them at lesbianism - and without a driver's license.

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The lesbianism bit was a quote from Seinfeld. I read part of your text. I don't agree with it. But hopefully we might engage in debate some day.

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Wow, all the TDS on display here!

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No we can't, until we can get an explanation as to why a right winger would try and kill the Right Wing candidate. The narrative that you are pushing doesn't even make any sense.

He likely registered as a Republican so he could vote against Trump in the Republican primaries. PA democrats were encouraging people to do this, and he was too young to have voted in the previous election. You have to be a registered Republican to vote in the primaries in PA, but you can still vote for whoever you want in the elections. Which is why registered republican doesn't mean anything.

The fact he donated to a left wing organization is probably more indicative of his views. The dollar total is irrelevant, he was 17-18, and probably doesn't have a lot of money.

Either way, if we have a tie, the assassination attempt is a pretty massive tie breaker. So lets drop the right wing shooter talking point, because it doesn't make any sense. There is no plausible motive if he is a right winger.

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"No we can't, until we can get an explanation as to why a right winger would try and kill the Right Wing candidate."

There doesn't need to be a logical reason. He could've just wanted attention.

"He likely registered as a Republican so he could vote against Trump in the Republican primaries."

He didn't vote in 2024. This doesn't make sense.


"The fact he donated to a left wing organization is probably more indicative of his views."

More than people who actually talked to him? Not really. Especially when the donation doesn't have any context to it.

"Either way, if we have a tie, the assassination attempt is a pretty massive tie breaker."

Not really. JFK was shot by a left winger.

"There is no plausible motive if he is a right winger."

Not necessarily. Just that it's more complicated than "angry leftist tried to kill Trump"

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There doesn't need to be a logical reason. He could've just wanted attention.


If you are making the argument that he is a right winger, it doesn't make sense for him to go after trump. You are trying to argue that he is a maga gun nut, while also trying to kill the guy you say he worships. If he was just looking for attention, why not try an assassinate a prominent Democrat? It would have same effect.

He didn't vote in 2024. This doesn't make sense.


He also didn't vote in 2020 because he was too young. It seems suspicious, so we probably shouldn't hang out hats on the registered republican thing.

More than people who actually talked to him? Not really. Especially when the donation doesn't have any context to it.


Just about all of them said that he was a loner that didn't have many friends. I'm not sure how well those classmates knew his political views. A donation doesn't need context, it's the ultimate form of support. Ever hear the phrase you vote with your wallet? If you really don't want to support something, don't give them your money. It's hard to believe that a staunch Republican would donate to a liberal cause, let alone as his only donation.

Not really. JFK was shot by a left winger.


The political landscape is a little different than it was 1963, so it's hard to compare. LHO was a Maxist, and communist, but he was strongly pro Russian. He even tried defecting. Today those would be considered conflicting ideologies. You aren't wrong, but I think his anti American allegiance to our cold war enemy weighed more heavily than a political affiliation.


Not necessarily. Just that it's more complicated than "angry leftist tried to kill Trump"


It could be, but requires us to speculate on information that we don't have.

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"If you are making the argument that he is a right winger, it doesn't make sense for him to go after trump."

Why does it need to "make sense"? The guy probably wasn't mentally sound to begin with.

"He also didn't vote in 2020 because he was too young. It seems suspicious, so we probably shouldn't hang out hats on the registered republican thing."

Maybe if it was JUST the Registered Republican news, but several classmates and a former teacher have all said he was a conservative. Are they all lying?

"I'm not sure how well those classmates knew his political views"

This is cope given their statements:


Max R. Smith, who said he took an American History course with Crooks as a sophomore, said that Crooks did make political statements, but they did not explain his actions on Saturday.

"He definitely was conservative," he told the Inquirer. "It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate."

In a mock debate, Smith recalled, their teacher asked students to stand on one side of the classroom or the other to signal their support or opposition for different proposals.

"The majority of the class were on the liberal side, but Tom, no matter what, always stood his ground on the conservative side," Smith said. "That’s still the picture I have of him. Just standing alone on one side while the rest of the class was on the other."

"Everybody is in shock," Smith said. "He was so quiet, I wouldn’t imagine him doing that. But I guess that was the same deal with Columbine."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-shooter-thomas-crooks-classmates-153100755.html



"A donation doesn't need context."

It does when everyone calls you a conservative.

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"everyone" is 2 people that didn't know him very well?.....🤡🤣 You're going to hurt your arm reaching so much.

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“I would almost put money on the fact that I probably had seen him wear a Trump shirt or something along the lines of that beforehand, which is why this is so shocking to me,” Paige Updegraff told Pittsburgh public radio station WESA.


According to US media reports, Crooks was wearing a T-shirt from Demolition Ranch, a YouTube channel known for its guns and demolition content. The channel has millions of subscribers featuring videos on different guns and explosive devices.



Sorry that the facts aren't lining up for you.

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It doesn't really matter. Whatever he was, his lunatic brain was probably stirred up by all the idiotic "He's literally Hitler!", "He'll be the end of Democracy!" hysteria generated by the left.

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Can we drop the "registered republican" talking point? People who donate to the democrats and shoot republican candidates, are not fucking republicans. 😂

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Boom!!! you just ended the thread there.

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Oh please, this is the Left we're talking about. If he identified as a woman, they'd believe it.

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