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January 6 Facts!

posted 2 years ago by yatzo376 (7717)
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Over the last several months, the January 6 hearings have demonstrated a few things:  President Trump knew that he lost the 2020 election.  There was no evidence of fraud, despite multiple investigations and 62 legal challenges.

  Trump planned, as early as July 2020, to proclaim victory, regardless of the results.  He followed through with this plan, declared victory on election night, and spent the next several weeks convincing his supporters of the Big Lie.  
Trump personally led the efforts to pressure state and federal officials to overturn election results in states, including Georgia and Arizona.  

Trump personally pressured the DOJ to challenge the results of the election.  

Trump personally pressured Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the counting of the electoral votes—a direct violation of the Electoral College Act.  

Trump planned for the January 6 rally and march to the Capitol. The march was not spontaneous but premeditated and circulated among his supporters.
  Trump knew the crowd was armed before sending the mob to Congress. He fully intended to go with them, know the threats of violence and the presence of weapons.  
Trump knew about the violence at 1:20 PM. For nearly 3 hours, he watched the coverage on television.  He refused pleas from staff, government officials, and family to intervene.  
Only after reinforcements arrived, did Trump tell his supporters to go home. They immediately complied.
  He refused to fully condemn the violence and has since justified it.

[–] Miyagido (2944) 2 years ago

lol Trump 24 MAGA

[–] moviechatterer (15777) 2 years ago

Trump planned, as early as July 2020, to proclaim victory, regardless of the results

I've been saying all along the fact that he started his "stolen election" bullshit months before the election proves he's making it up.

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

So the fact the democrats are already saying the same about the midterms means they're about to steal the elections?

[–] moviechatterer (15777) 2 years ago

got a link to that?

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

Can't find the tweet but they're seeding the typical fuckery for vote counting already too.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/20/democrats-are-already-telling-americans-to-expect-delayed-election-results-this-fall/

[–] moviechatterer (15777) 2 years ago

thats just a load of waffle about how long it takes to count votes.
theres nothing about ignoring the result

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

Yes...I know. Hence me saying I couldn't find the tweet but they're doing this shit. There's no reason why it should take them so long to count unless there's fuckery afoot.

[–] SamNoyoun (5880) 2 years ago

Well, that's obviously going to be the case when the GOP is pushing this crap:

"The strategy: Vote in person on Election Day or — for voters who receive a mailed ballot — hold onto it and hand it in at a polling place or election office on Nov. 8.

The plan is based on unfounded conspiracy theories that fraudsters will manipulate voting systems to rig results for Democrats once they have seen how many Republican votes have been returned early. There has been no evidence of any such widespread fraud."

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-health-government-and-politics-election-2020-55f4744b484919cd20d4d5e8d72e444e

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

It's a sensible approach. And if people have an issue with it, they're clearly hoping to exploit early voting in some manner.

[–] SamNoyoun (5880) 2 years ago

Perhaps, but if that's the case then obviously the results are not going to be available on election night...You can't possibly be so dense that you don't understand that, can you?

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

I'm guessing you're not very world wise? This shit doesn't happen in other countries elections. There's no reason for a count to take weeks.

Look at France for example. The French voting system has many detailed rules to make it especially transparent to all voters: (literally) transparent ballot box, ballots are counted on the spot (never leaving the room and the sight of everybody who cares to be there), several people are involved in every operation, the tally for a given polling place is posted on the door and/or on the door of the town hall and can be found in the local newspaper (or, online). Also, postal voting is not allowed (with a few exceptions) due to the risk of fraud through an opaque of chain of custody.

Polls close at 8pm latest. No exceptions. It takes a matter of hours to count votes, not weeks.

Surely you're intelligent enough to see how open to abuse the US voting system is?

[–] SamNoyoun (5880) 2 years ago

"You can't possibly be so dense that you don't understand that, can you?"

I stand corrected!

Fuck off you ignorant Trumptwat...

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

Too many words for your retarded little brain to handle? You dumb cunt.

I just murdered your argument and that's all you can say in reply? Pathetic.

[–] SweetTooth43 (2055) 2 years ago

Nice propaganda bomb. Nobody cares

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

Everyone should care, for those are the facts

[–] SweetTooth43 (2055) 2 years ago

Why cause you typed them? Maybe you should focus on your own life instead of what's happening with an ex president. You'll be happier, believe me.

[–] alwaystrucking (78) 2 years ago

They tried to stop the American fucktards from sending Drag Queens into schools and killing babies.

Good for them!!

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

Idiot

[–] SweetTooth43 (2055) 2 years ago

In 2024 Trump and Desantis are gonna surf the Big Red Wave right into your home town, into your living room and right up your ass!

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

In orange jumpsuits....,of course!

[–] SweetTooth43 (2055) 2 years ago

You wish

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

So you're a paedophile then?

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

He may be.
He did spend a lot of time with Epstein

[–] Pete314 (3039) 2 years ago

I doubt that. He did not want to meet Clinton and the Bidens there.

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

What? Can't you read? I'm asking you if you're a paedophile. Who the fuck is he? Where did he come from? Unless you're referring to yourself in the third person, admitting you spent a lot of time with Epstein. So yeah, you're a paedo confirmed then.

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

I’m sorry, Trumps a pardophile and you’re insane.
That makes the most sense

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

Are you genuinely not embarrassed to post such nonsense? Like seriously. Do you think everyone on here are watchers of the View and gobble up your fantasy nonsense? It's fully documented and common knowledge that Trump was never friends with Epstein and went out of his way to say he didn't like or trust the guy.

I can only assume you have some sort of learning difficulty.

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

No
You’ve been radicalized therefore until you get help, you’re insane.

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

"You've been radicalized" ah ha ha ha. You fucking cretin.

Go back to MSNBC to try and come up with another comeback against fact.

That's why you people will never win. You try and fight facts with insults.

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

But you don;t have any"facts", just ninjas, mules and pillows

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

Are you retarded or what? The great thing about facts is they exist whether you choose to see them or not.

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

Show me, but leave out the pillows and ninjas

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

So you admit you don't know how to Google?

"I had a falling out with him a long time ago. I don't think I've spoken to him for 15 years. I wasn't a fan. I was not -- yeah, a long time ago. I'd say, maybe 15 years. I was not a fan of his, that I can tell you. I was not a fan of his."

Trump banned Epstein from becoming a Mar-a-Lago member in 2007, following Epstein's first arrest.

You should see a professional if you're obsessed with pillows, ninjas and mules. Unless it's a weird sexual thing for in which case, you should probably keep that in Mexico. It's probably illegal in other places.

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

My OP was regarding the facts revealed about Trumps involvement in Jan 6.
Trumps a pathological liar and you’d have to be pretty naive to take him on his word regarding his perversions

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

Jan 6th lol

You people can't accept anything. His words are as clear as day on Jan 6th.

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

Then he’s toast

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

Ha. Keep dreaming you poor, poor TDS sufferer.

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

Tell that to Mike Pence

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

Mike Pence may as well be dead. His career is over.

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

So you supported the lynching of Mr Pence?

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

Of course. He's a traitor.

He's probably in some of those videos taken from Epstein's island.

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

Your true colors are flying

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 2 years ago

lol. What?

[–] raymondoz2007 (2098) 2 years ago

so you like $6 a gallon

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

$2.49 where I live

[–] Jes' Sayin' (6398) 2 years ago

You say he planned the Jan 6 rally. That's a very broad statement. In what way? What is the evidence? What are the details?

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

The January 6 commission laid it out very clearly with tons of evidence
But it’s up to you to read it yourself

[–] Jes' Sayin' (6398) 2 years ago

Disagree. I saw a lot of inference and evidence that was circumstantial in nature, only. I detest Trump with all my might, but there are rules and laws. The evidence lacks a smoking gun. You are probably not a lawyer and do not understand the rules of evidence.

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

The evidence is definitely there for the stolen documents and files.
Unless one of Trumps lackeys opens their mouths J6 is tough

[–] Jes' Sayin' (6398) 2 years ago

Stolen documents are not January 6.
You didn't write the second sentence clearly enough to even make out what's meant.

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 years ago

Sorry
Unless one of Trumps lackeys speak the truth about the J6 insurrection plans, its going to be hard to prosecute him, even though there's tons of emails and texts within the GOP trying to set up fake electors, and egging on the "Stop the Steal" rally.
It's all there to see, read and hear.

[–] Jes' Sayin' (6398) 2 years ago

Yeah, if they really want to get him, the tax stuff is the low hanging fruit. Remember, Al Capone went to prison for life based on tax evasion.

But I'm not sure if they really want to get him. They may prefer him out there as a bogey man to run against.