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Millions could lose food assistance if shutdown drags on


https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/politics/food-stamps-government-shutdown/index.html

Millions of low-income Americans could have a harder time affording food if the partial government shutdown continues into February.

Funding for food stamps, school lunches and nutrition for pregnant women and young children is expected to run out next month if the impasse isn't resolved, experts say.

The largest benefit at risk is the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, the formal name for food stamps. Nearly 38.6 million Americans depended on this aid to augment their grocery budgets in September, according to the US Department of Agriculture's latest data.

The agency said last month that the program is funded through January, but it has only $3 billion in reserves to cover February. That's less than two-thirds of food stamps' $4.8 billion cost in September.

A program that provides food assistance to more than 7 million low-income pregnant women, new mothers and young children is similarly threatened. The Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children also has federal funding to last only through January, according to the National WIC Association, an advocacy organization. The average cost of a monthly WIC food package is just under $41 per person.



Well, guess someone here will be happy about it affecting illegals food source and the 7 million or less women who are pregnant but can't afford to pay for their kids.

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Good. The vast majority of people on food stamps don't need it. Time to get the bloodsuckers off ripping us off.

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Federal workers are now applying for food stamps. So you’re glad they won’t get it?

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And it's not just the federal workers that are impacted. What about the guy who runs the diner near a government office? The coffee cart guy? All the ancillary businesses that depend on the steady influx of government employees that come and go into work?

When I went to DC for July 4th weekend a few years ago, I was surprised how few restaurants there were around the Mall area. The large number of tourists ended p eating at the literal DOZENS of food trucks set up outside the Smithsonian the area. No museums....less tourists. Less tourists, less money for those hard working people. Plus, I imagine the area hotels are or will be hurting from the lack of tourism.


But hey....we need a totally ineffective wall built that even the Republican representative for the area with the largest ...um...border on the border says won't work. Because a bunch of people in Wyoming and Idaho are afraid they may see someone who isn't white.

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Yes - they were talking about these people being impacted, as well. They're called "The Invisible Workers" to the federal employees.

They spoke to one proprietor of a breakfast / lunch diner near the Capitol on-air (he voted for T-rump!). He said his business is 'way, way down' and he had to lay-off some of his employees ('domino effect'). Been in business for 20 years, and these have been the worst weeks he and his wife have experienced. He was hesitant on whether he'd be voting for T-rump again, but the answer on his face was clearly 'no'. They also mentioned other services near the capitol (dry cleaners, pizza parlors, etc. which have seen double digit drops in business for the past two weeks...horrible.

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The majority of food stamp recipients are in red states and likely voted for Trump. And let's not forget the grocery store owners who depend on those customers.

The shutdown is also hurting farmers who also voted for him.

The 2020 blue wave will be greater than the 2018 one!!!!

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The 2020 blue wave will be greater than the 2018 one!!!!

Wait I thought they were Trump voters?

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Exactly. They'll become very angry former Trump supporters/Republicans who join the blue wave in the same way surburbanites and women across the country ditched him in 2018.

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Exactly. They'll become very angry former Trump supporters/Republicans who join the blue wave in the same way surburbanites and women across the country ditched him in 2018.
In other words, when people are successful they support Trump, but when they become poor and need freebies for being useless leeches they go Democrat.

That's what Trump supporters have been saying since 2015 lol.

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Trump has a habit of attacking people. That's a sure way to lose support.

In my state, middle and upper middle-class Trump supporters in the suburbs supported and voted for Trump until he attacked them with his tax policy that raised their taxes. I saw those areas turn blue and I'm still laughing my head off at their stupidity.

Trump's shutdown has attacked Federal workers, government contractors, farmers, etc. I'll guarantee you that they'll remember it in 2020.

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Well, in many cases, stop over-breeding, and gain employment while your child is in day care. Unless that's too inconvenient for you.

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Most people on food stamps are disabled, old and young children. Anyone not meeting these criteria are supposed to work or be in school. Most recipients are white and live in red states. The Democrats will be welcoming their support in 2020!

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How do you know. Have you the stats? You said "most".

SSI recipients are not eligible for food stamps. SSDI and Social Security Retirement is not either, from what I have read. That leaves Welfare.
(and those children resulted from the Welfare mommies who were lazy and did not strap a condom to one of their many sperm donors)

SSI/ SSDI / Social Security Retirement/ Welfare



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Info found on a food stamp website:

"... you may want to look up the amounts of your earnings, rent or mortgage, utility bills, child support, day care expenses, medical bills (if you are 60 or older, or disable), child support payments or SSI, social security or VA payments..."

SSI = disabled
social security = elderly
VA = veterans
day care expenses = worker
mortgage = homeowner

More info on their website:

"SNAP helps low-income people buy the food they need for good health. You may be able to get SNAP benefits if you are:

Working for low wages or working part-time;
Unemployed;
Receiving welfare or other public assistance payments;
Elderly or disabled and are low-income; or
Homeless"

Info re: able-bodied adults without children on their website:

(I SUGGEST YOU READ THIS PART CAREFULLY.)

"While SNAP is intended to ensure that no one in our land of plenty should fear going hungry, it also reflects the importance of work and responsibility. SNAP rules require all recipients meet work requirements unless they are exempt because of age or disability or another specific reason. (Children, seniors, and those with disabilities comprise almost two-thirds of all SNAP participants.) Forty-three percent of SNAP participants live in a household with earnings.'

Let's repeat the last two sentences and provide a link:

(Children, seniors, and those with disabilities comprise almost two-thirds of all SNAP participants.) Forty-three percent of SNAP participants live in a household with earnings.'

https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/able-bodied-adults-without-dependents-abawds

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I don't care about this SNAP website, but what the SOCIAL SECURITY website says. If social-security disabled recipients are eligible for food stamps, they certainly would know it. It would not be a secret. And if people are not already covered by Social Security Disability, there must be a reason.

And I mentioned Welfare, which is not for long term use, but a temporary solution unless it's abused. Sounds like SNAP is another word for Welfare, which includes the "unemployed". I suggest you review it. And I don't to be told to look up the amount of my earnings, that's something I would already know from having brain-cells. And even if my earnings were low, I would not accept freebies just because I can avail myself to it. (something very common with people).

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SNAP isn't considered welfare by the government. Food stamps is an obsolete term, but I don't care and use it anyway. The newer terms are SNAP, WIC, etc.

I know quite a few people who are severely disabled, on SSI and receiving food stamps which is how I knew you were wrong. I also know someone who became disabled and could no longer work, receives SSD, Section 8 and food stamps. The disabled people I know didn't start out that way. You shouldn't be so arrogant because you don't know what the future holds for you and life often teaches a hard lesson. A disability is an accident or serious illness away and can happen to anyone.

There are many elderly who are living only on social security so they're poor and qualify for food stamps.
https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/snap-special-rules-elderly-or-disabled

You don't apply for food stamps on a social security website! You apply for it on your state's food stamps website. Each state has different criteria. In my state, you qualify if your salary is very low. You automatically get it if you have SSI. The government doesn't want people ending up in the hospital with serious illnesses from malnutrition which cost more to treat so they encourage people to apply and try to remove the stigma.

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You shouldn't be so arrogant because you don't know what the future holds for you and life often teaches a hard lesson. A disability is an accident or serious illness away and can happen to anyone.
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Dear:
Don't feel compelled and assume to educate me on what disability is, and the consequences of being underprivileged , nor assume others are not informed because you happen to be.. You may be speaking to someone who works in nursing or has studied clinical illness, or has experienced a serious illness first-hand.

At any rate, I am speaking about Social Security rules, which likely varies from state to state, not this dubious SNAP program. I believe the other tactful poster has already attempted to give you perspective on food stamps; the ramifications of such. By all means, food stamps must be an "obsolete" term in order to sugarcoat things so that we don't offend the delicate senses of people today. Keep the condescension in check.

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"SSI recipients are not eligible for food stamps. SSDI and Social Security Retirement is not either..."

Stop deflecting. Your original comment was about who is eligible for food stamps. You were stereotyping all recipients as being unwed mothers which is false.

"And even if my earnings were low, I would not accept freebies just because I can avail myself to it."

When you can no longer work, have depleted your savings and there are no friends or family to help you, then rewrite your sentence.

"food stamps must be an "obsolete" term in order to sugarcoat things"

Not really. Stamps aren't used anymore.

It's normal for nurses to have some compassion.

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"And even if my earnings were low, I would not accept freebies just because I can avail myself to it. (something very common with people)."

Did you complain when the Republicans and Trump gave the super rich a huge tax cut?

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Yeah, many people live off of welfare knowing it's only supposed to be temporary. As someone who worked in the financial industry for the past decade, I cant tell you the alarming amount of people who forcefully spend their $$ to stay qualified for government assistance. The democrats promote and reward the welfare state instead of encouraging independence. They want to keep the poor in poverty for votes. Sickening...

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How do you know. Have you the stats? You said "most".

You said they were "over-breeding" without giving a lick of evidence, yet you expect more of others than you're willing to provide.

You're a boring desperate hypocrite troll.

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Hey, frogarama. I know this is purely anecdotal and may not be the case nationally, but this is what Ive witnessed. Throughout the years, Ive known a lot of special ed case workers as well as those on the receiving end. Many, not all, but many of those in poverty have babies simply for the tax breaks. Having spoken with many of these individuals, I can confirm this. Some even have the audacity to joke about their unborn child bringing in the dollars.

On the other end, a lot of special ed case workers and therapists have reported to me that many of the children in which they service cannot communicate with their parent(s) because either one only speaks spanish and the other only speaks english. This leads me to believe that the parents do not care about the child(ren). Or, it may be theyre just horrible parents.

Again, purely anecdotal, but leeching off welfare definitely happens.

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I don't think anyone is saying it NEVER happens. But it's not the plague on humanity the OP makes it out to be. I'm honestly not sure which is the bigger problem, the situation you describe or the multi millionaires who manipulate the system so that they pay little or no taxes on what they earn or accrue during a fiscal year.

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Agreed, TJ.

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SSI recipients are not eligible for food stamps. SSDI and Social Security Retirement is not either, from what I have read. That leaves Welfare.


As T-rump likes to yell into his microphone, "WRONG!"

It depends on your income whether you get food benefits or not. Does not matter where your income is coming from (SSDI, SS retirement).

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That's probably part of the reason why he's doing it. Lose assistance for Trumpers and then blame democrats for the shutdown.

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Oh, the irony...

I know several people who are on food stamps and every single one of them voted for Trump.

In fact--most of the food stamp-heavy states are red states.

As I've been saying from the beginning, Trumpers always stand to be hurt the most by Donald's policies, yet they blindly and stupidly worship him, regardless.

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Here is a welfare line in Los Angeles, how many of these people do you think voted for Trump?

http://i.imgur.com/R9Sm8ym.jpg

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It's a photograph of people sitting and standing in a room. That photo could have been taken anywhere - no indication it was in LA, or a welfare line.

Try again, kiddo.

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Goes to show you the priorities....

They will spend billions on some stupid wall, and trillions on wars and military, but will let people and children starve just to make a point.

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Hahaha, that's a good one. Trump pulled troops out of Syria, and Obama dropped more bombs than any other president in history. But don't let facts get in the way of some good ol' fashion blind outrage.

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I realize youre one of those slow Trump supporters, but you might notice that i didnt mention any names in my post, i was referring to this country in general.

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Ah yes, ignorant generalization and personal attacks without any idea on my political beliefs. You sure sound like a liberal,lol. Since you mentioned it along with wall funding, why would anyone think you were talking about Trump 🙄? Give me a break...

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Well since you started with the generalizations and attacks i just thought i would pile on, but you were clearly defending Trump which would indicate you are on board with his agenda. And of course Trump is a huge part of the problem, but they've been talking about a wall, border security etc, for decades and nothing has been done, all the while the government waste billions upon billions on pork, yet they're perfectly willing to make the disadvantaged suffer for this showdown. As rich as this country is, there is no way anyone should go without a basic need like food.

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I guess I fail to see how I attacked you, but regardless, I completely agree with overspending being a problem and one thing Trump has really failed on is draining the swamp. I disagree about the issue of food. We are one of the most giving countries regarding opportunities,either private or public funded programs, in terms of providing food to the needy. It's impossible to make everyone take advantage of these programs, or reach everyone in very rural areas. I actually stopped volunteering at a soup kitchen that my uncle runs, because I was disgusted by the abuse by so many people who don't need it, or put non essential priorities in place of food, and then come with their hands out. It's not the kids fault usually, but parents need to put in the effort to take advantage of programs, and often they are too messed up on meth or booze to even get to the store to use their food stamps (yes, I know it's not literally stamps anymore)...if they didn't already trade them for a lower cash value. I think the idea of a utopian society where nobody is hungry would be great, but until every parent out there stops being scumbags, there will always be hungry kids.

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Trump didn't pull troops out of anywhere. He had to backtrack his exaggeration by telling the media he didn't mean he'll do it right now. Even John Bolton said they won't leave Syria until they're sure Turkey won't attack the Kurds and that any remnants of ISIS will not rise again. Pentagon also waded in saying they need at least 120 days (4 months) for a withdrawal to not get everyone killed. Other than that, yes, Obama ordered the most drone strikes to date.

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He has ordered a pullout of 2000 troops,that hasn't changed. Obviously things like that take a little time to accomplish, and we already know Trump is better at business than military strategy. I'm fine with that, because we shouldn't be so heavily militarized anyway. Despite that, you can't deny Trump has long been opposed to our heavy military investment overseas. We finally have a president who DOESN'T want to get further into foreign wars, and you act like that's a bad thing, or are you irritated that he wants to bring troops home?

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Except they won’t. Any questions?

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Why are you such an idiot?

How much did your parents beat you?


Those are questions.

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