The video of the 40 year old white male customer at a Florida McDonalds lunging over the counter and start pulling the black female employee has gone viral and I’m sure everyone has seen it.
So how do conservatives feel about this man committing such a violent act and the fact that the manager did absolutely nothing to defend her?
He didn't hit her but he grabbed her shirt and pulled her toward him using one hand and then the other. She was landing some punches but she clearly had the right since he grabbed her first and wouldn't let go until another employee separated him which was thankfully done calmly.
shareThanks-I made the correction ( it looked like he hit her in the video). I can’t believe the manager did absolutely NOTHING to stop this from going on. Yet he did finish the customer’ s order? What is this world coming to??
sharewhat does this have to do with Trump? The board is about Trump.
And human behavior like the man grabbing the worker is not about conservatives, or non conservative. Everything you do, see, feel, sense, touch, is related to your political party? Typical simple-mindedness, and "let's be topical".
How do "conservatives" about those like who leech off a board for your own selfish agenda, so it's ruined?
What does this have to do with Trump? Everyone on the racist side have been emboldened by Trump's clearly anti-everything motif. Any and every time Trump opens his mouth he says stuff that his base believes and carries out. This was no different.
shareBy all means, how would it be different. Whenever a so-called racist thing occurs, it's compulsive that the sheep somehow finagle Donald Trump into the equation. That is simpleminded and contrived. Not everything the computer-freaks ferret out regarding racism has to be segued into "Trump". You get it? "Oh, some black man on the street insulted me for no reason, let me figure Trump into this" and post on Facebook".
shareThe leader sets the tone. It's common for racial, etc. tension and incidents to sky rocket because bigots believe they are now empowered to act on their hatred. It's no coincidence that these hate crimes go up statistically. The same happened years ago where I live when a bigot was voted in as mayor. It took the following mayor to get things back to normal again.
shareBLACKS are equally bigoted and hateful, if not nor more so, than whites are. But blacks can can away with being bigoted/hateful since they are a minority. See how that works out?
.. I'm not referring to the McDonalds incident.
"BLACKS are equally bigoted and hateful, if not nor more so, than whites are."
Nope, history is not on your side. The Nazis were white. And Trump called neo-Nazis fine people and referred to himself as a nationalist. Add Native-American genocide, slavery and Jim Crow, too.
Present circumstances aren't on your side either. Crying about a wall, ripping children from their mothers and placing them in cages are the hateful and bigoted policies of nationalist Trump and his hate-mongering advisors and supporters.
The bottom photo shows everyone is equally getting along with each other.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/14/congress-diversity-democrats-republicans-photo#img-3
2019 will be a wonderful year!
I feel that both the right and left (mostly the left, pretty much the left) need to stop injecting race into everything and instead focus on the act or act(s) of violence and do something about it. i.e, "How do conservatives view the white man assaulting the black female worker at McDonalds?“ should read" How do YOU feel about a man assaulting a female worker at McDonalds?"
It's as if the left has this unreachable, uncurable itch to make literally everything about race.
To answer your question, I feel bad about it. No one should be attacking anyone.
So you think he would've grabbed her the same way if she was white?
shareYes. Violence and ignorance doesn't discriminate.
shareIt doesn't? That sounds like an absolute. Either way, violence and ignorance discriminating or not discriminating has nothing to do with why this guy grabbed her shirt and pulled him toward her, an act you and I both believe would not have happened if she was white no matter how much you deny it. You are either lying to me or yourself.
sharean act you and I both believe would not have happened if she was white no matter how much you deny it. You are either lying to me or yourself.
Please, stop your virtue signaling. I don't appreciate your attempt in trying to tell me how I feel or think or how to feel or how to think. Race has nothing to do with it. Just a hateful person manifesting his hatred to the closest, percieved weak person. The only people who would view it as a racist attack are either racist themselves or are simply simple.
shareIt's not virtue signaling. It's just Trump's America. There's an influx of people believing they have priority over people of color simply because he was elected. We saw it with the woman who called the cops on the little girls' lemonade stand and we see it constantly with Muslims being harassed in grocery stores being told they aren't welcome here any more. When you take the lazy way out and just call it virtue signaling you are proving you don't care. To avoid admitting you don't care you either have to lie to yourself or lie to everyone else.
Now watch Neckk pretend to be black.
You're incorrect. I actually appreciate you admitting to virtue signaling as you've given a couple of reasons why you belive doing so is a good thing. As a black man who grew up in the black culture, I want to tell you to knock it off and quit trying to speak for me. Many of us are sick and tired of other people trying to tell us that we're victims or that others take priority over us when the truth is that today, in 2019, is the best time ever to be black in America. To lie to myself would be to adopt your worldview, but I refuse to be the victim that you insinuate I am.
shareIt's not virtue signaling. It's just Trump's America. There's an influx of people believing they have priority over people of color simply because he was elected.
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It's not about TRUMP! Racial tensions did not begin with Trump. What are you, 18 yrs old, and see everything through some prism based on who the President is? You don't seem worldly at all, but want to "talk". And racial tensions are getting worse, so let's blame "Trump's America" 20 yrs from now also. You're obsessive over Trump, instead of sobering up to the real world, with or without Trump.
I said it increased. I did not say it began with Trump. Pay attention, doofus.
sharein just two years, it increased? What evidence do you have on this? It may have increased ANYWAY, sweetie.
shareBefore Trump, there wasn't a lot of footage of people telling others they didn't belong here. Now it's nearly every week that such a video goes viral.
shareBefore Trump, there wasn't a lot of footage of people telling others they didn't belong here. Now it's nearly every week that such a video goes viral.
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If that is true, should you be blaming Trump or the current hyperactive video media and their footage? I assure you, before Trump was elected there was as much concern about Mexican immigration; I used to read about it. I do not recall having the media-outlets that we now do. We were not hopping on Twitter, Facebook, etc.etc. over every random thing that happens. Or, in youth, time is more compressed, so you may think 2 yrs is a much longer time than is it. ( I don't know your age, but just saying)
The media doesn't dictate what goes viral. The general population does.
shareMy point was that technology has changed, and I do not recall when we had so many media-toys to post videos of everything that crosses our path.
shareWe had the same toys through Obama's presidency. Trump's voting base was so upset at having a black president for eight years that they voted for a bigot, the one candidate who claimed Obama was not born in the US. Trump knew what to say to get them on his side, that we need a wall to stop Mexicans from bringing in illegal drugs. Except drugs are carried in by US citizens. But the president is an idiot who only appeals to idiots, so it all works out.
shareYes, we all can tell by now that you have a complex about being black, and how oppressive whites are. And lucky you: you have a very white President to take your anger out on. Trump must be a bigot for him to not approve of self-entitled minorities with a penchant for bashing/using white people. How awful. Blame your peers, sweetie, for making you look bad, not Trump. And Trump is less of a bigot than the majority of blacks with a convenient axe-to-grind. Go figure.
shareTrump is a white supremacist. The KKK (his father was a member), neo-Nazis and bigots in general feel empowered with him in office. He supported white nationalists chanting "Jews will not replace us" by calling them fine people and recently identified himself as one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n12sjwk9FBE
You're conveniently forgetting that Trump started his campaign by calling Mexicans rapists. And Trump was sued for housing discrimination against blacks and Hispanics.
And yes, hate crimes have risen since he's taken office:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/27/antisemitism-us-rises-anti-defamation-league
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hate-crimes-us-trump-election-surge-rise-latest-figures-police-a8055026.html
https://www.splcenter.org/hate-white-house-december-2018
BTW, you're insane if you believe the white guy in McDonald's would've grabbed a 6.5 ft. bodybuilder.
You think he would have acted that way if it was a white male employee?
shareProbably not, since men are generally
physically stronger than women.
So what you're saying is conservatives don't treat everyone the same, or with the same respect due each person - it depends on gender.
Got it.
Lol no, daddy. Thats what YOU just said. Like most lefties, you have succeeded in putting emphasis on gender and race as opposed to the foul action(s) at hand. You inject race and gender in places where the two have nothing to do with anything. Most betas like doing that. Thanks for proving my point, daddy ;)
shareLike most lefties, you have succeeded in putting emphasis on gender and race as opposed to the foul action(s) at hand.
Who exactly is uncomfortable? There are many sick people in the world, both men and women. Some poor excuses of human beings who call themselves men hit women. In no way am I excusing that type of foul behavior, but it is what is. Id feel just as bad if it were a male victim, as if that needs to be said. Its a fact that when someone who is prone to attack actually attacks, they target the weak. Its not an issue with gender, its an issue of violence. Not exactly sure what youre not understanding. Further more, Im not a conservative, daddy :)
shareI've been responding to your answer, which was:
Probably not, since men are generally
physically stronger than women.
Doesn't matter whether you're a conservative or not, since the question was about conservatives' reaction.
Gotcha, daddy. Thanks for your time, sincerely. See you around the forums :)
shareSo first you say violence and ignorance do not discriminate, but then you suggest this man would most likely have "discriminated" based on gender.
shareHe's quite a mess of contradictions, isn't he? I thought it was me.
shareDiscriminate based on gender? No. Based on strength. Weak people pick on weak people. I believe the man would have attacked a male if he percieved him to be weak. Yes, i should have clarified that in my earlier post.
It's interesting how you both want to keep black people down with your virtue signaling adopted victimhood mentality. Knock it off already. You too, daddy ;)
I believe the man would have attacked a male if he percieved him to be weak
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Thats exactly what happens.
Saying violence doesn't discriminate means we should focus on that as it supercedes anything to do with race. Quit talking about race and instead come up with solutions of how to fix this. If that's too hard to understand, well, I really feel sorry for you.
shareYet you were the one who said he attacked because of gender, even though he did it right in front of males that are obviously more fit than he is. Your gender/strength argument doesn't hold up here and seems like you didn't watch the video.
"Quit talking about race and instead come up with solutions of how to fix this."
If you stomp your feet whenever we talk about the culture and tribal nature that comes along with race, there's no chance of anything being fixed. What you really want is to turn a blind eye to the fact that there are white people out there who believe they can get away with doing anything they want to black people. That won't fix a damn thing.
Im not stomping my feet. Im having a civil discussion on a movie forum, lol. People like you are doing more harm than good when you think race supercedes actions. In addition to the video, there was not a single strong person present as anyone with a back-bone would have stepped in. This soy-boy mentality is toxic and this video is further proof of that. Being fit has nothing to do with this as I talk to a lot of weight-lifting betas on the regular.
shareNotice how you focused on asking for a solution, but you did not even state what you believed the initial problem was. That is how you revealed your ignorance and bias. Doggie began this thread understanding that race and the culture that comes with it played a role. You chimed in with saying it's not race and that it was something else that we don't know but we need to not talk about race. Like.. for real, guy? Now you're talking about soy-boys culture as if that actually applied to these employees.
Why did the man attack? The answer is simple. White privilege. The solution isn't easy but it damn well doesn't involve not talking about white privilege. The reason there's never a solution is because 40% of country are like you who refuse to believe there is a problem or want to lie to themselves that the problem is something else.
I wasn't sure what "soy-boy" was a reference to Neckk's post, so I had to search it on-line. Here's what I found from The Independent:
There’s nothing manlier than dairy, right? What could be a better display of masculinity than downing a pint of whole milk?
This is the bizarre thinking behind the far right’s new favorite insult: "soy boy".
The idea is that if you drink dairy-free milk alternatives, you are obviously weak and feminine (based on the thinking that soy products increase men’s oestrogen levels, even though this hasn’t been scientifically proven).
And then there’s the fact that soy is often used as a meat alternative, and as we all know, real men eat meat. And women only ever eat sad plates of salad.
The term has become increasingly popular on Twitter, Reddit and YouTube comments, with trolls regularly criticizing others they deem to be weak as "soy boys".
What exactly is conservative about my view points, exactly? Sincerely
shareYou used 'the far right's new favorite insult'. I didn't.
shareSo automatically im part of the far right? Lol, ok daddy. Way to use your critical thinking skills ;)
shareCall'em as I see'em.
shareHow many other blacks are on the far right exactly? Is there a group I should be aware of? Many of my lesbian-far left friends use the same term on the daily. Are they far - right all of a sudden? My self-proclaimed soy-boy co-worker calls himself that. Is he far right as well? You know, I was mistaken. I should never assume that you actually use critical thought. My apologies, daddy.
shareHow many other blacks are on the far right exactly? Is there a group I should be aware of?
You claim I'm on the far right as you said you "call'em as I see'em". I wasn't aware that any blacks could be on the far right, as the far-right are known to be the dixiecrats/kkk/neo-nazis etc, etc, which, I'm sure you know this, daddy, they don't like blacks...
shareWhen you agree with that crc nonsense, you are waaaaay on the far right. You don't get to walk that crap back.
shareAlso, I don't know who crc is. I'm new here. But he's not wrong about the facts **shrugg**
shareHe said her punches toward him were because black people were more violent.
Then you replied that you agreed.
The harsh truth is that blacks ARE more violent, especially considering that blacks make up around 11-13% of the U.S population and are responsible for over 50% of all crime in the us. 80% of all homicides are done by blacks. Would you like me to cite my sources? WaPo isn't too far away.
Also, I'm glad she punched back as I'm sure anyone would. So....**shrugg**
OMG!
Poor communities with high populations increases the violence.
Not skin color.
OMG!
Ultra, I agree. So....**shrugg**
shareBULLSHIT
"The harsh truth is that blacks ARE more violent"
You misconstrued the crime rate into thinking it was based on black people's genetics.
If you actually agreed with me, you wouldn't be on the crc talking point that black people are more violent. You would've been saying poor communities with dense populations are more violent and has nothing to do with skin color!
But when crc said she swung at him because she's black, YOU AGREED.
All your talk about "we should not talk about race." All complete garbage.
You disagreed with the OP mentioning her race because YOU ARE A RACIST PIECE OF FILTH
As a black man who was raised in the black community, first hand I KNOW that blacks are FAR more violent. I feel the need to bring up my race because you're now claiming I'm a racist lol
I like you, Ultra. Sincerely. Reminds me of the old IMDB boards :)
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
NOW YOU'RE A BLACK MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously dude. You need to stop.
Not skin color.
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It's not "skin color", but what is behind the skin color. If you think certain cultures do not have certain attributes that are different than others, you're being too proud and in denial because you are black. Blame your peers for letting you down, then.
Yeah, sure...let's blame the higher violence by blacks based on the "community" OMG!
I blame it on poor communities with dense populations. People with less opportunity are more prone to going to extremes to survive.
Blaming it on race is racist.
But the "race" has been conditioned. If you notice how innocent and passive black toddlers are, then it's not genetics, but how they are raised. Whatever term you want to use, it still exists.
And for the demographic-argument, if you measure the black population vs. the whites in the same poor dense city/ community, there will still be a significantly higher proportion of violent blacks than whites. You think people make this up?
I know you made it up, because the same number of white people are not in poor dense communities. Poor white people end up in more sparse communities which typically reject black people.
Black people are pushed into densely populated poor communities because of a lack of acceptance elsewhere. Then people like you say the poor dense communities are violent because they have black people. Then you say black people aren't accepted elsewhere because they are too violent. And the cycle continues.
Just like in your other thread. You want a wall to stop dark-skinned people here because you believe they are all criminals. Who told you that? Gee, I wonder.
I never said "criminals", so you're being a bold-faced liar. I cited CUSTOMS, manners, standards. .
And living in poor communities is not related to one's conscience, and morals? I bussed tables and lived in one-room apts when I was younger, but I did not have the impulse to commit violence or steal what was not mine. What, was I special? According to you, if you grow up/live in a poor community, it makes you a violent thief. You actually think no amount of a persons' innate-morals are a factor? If so, it's how they were raised, like I said before. Like I said before. Maybe those poor underprivileged blacks should start bussing tables too, unless that's too beneath them. No, selling gold chains on the street-corner is more comfy. Now you will claim restaurants in a poor black community won't hire them to bus tables or wash dishes. B.S.
"And living in poor communities is not related to one's conscience, and morals?"
Correct.
"According to you, if you grow up/live in a poor community, it makes you a violent thief."
No. It will increase the chance. If you grow up/live in a poor community, it will make you more likely to struggle to maintain survival. If that poor community is densely populated, it will restrict resources even further and cause more people to seek those extreme opportunities.
Neckk just agreed with crc who said that the 57% crime is a result of skin color and is also why the woman swung back.
Neckk just outed himself as a racist piece of shit.
Hahaha!! Thanks Ultra! I agreed with the statistic, and it's not a lie that the woman swung back. Although I do think it was more than warranted. Tell me again why I'm a racist. Because I observe and concur facts?
"Reverse racism", would you call it? Hahaha!
He said she swung back because she was black. He cited the black crime rate to back it up, and you agreed.
shareCircles, Ultra. We're going in circles. But ok, I'll try to keep up...
So, would you say that I'm racist against my own kind, somehow? Just because I acknowledged a verified statistic?
High crime rates are because of poor communities with low infrastructure, education, etc and high populations.
Poor white people are less likely to live there because they are more accepted in poor communities with smaller, more rural, populations. The type of communities that typically reject black people. So where do poor black people go to live? Yup, the poor dense communities.
It has nothing to do with the genetics of Africans.
YOU ARE A RACIST PIECE OF FILTH!
Yes, I'm racist because I agree with facts. Who exactly am I racist against? You know, me being a black man and all.
shareand now you're saying you're a black man in every post. You've been making a post a minute for nearly an hour. Then you took 12 minutes to think of a way out. This is what you came up with.
Seriously dude. You are pathetic.
Ultra, it's because you and I have different responses going on in different posts. Does that make sense? LOL!
Are you now insinuating that I'm actually not black??? Please please please oh man i hope so.......
No. It's because you are a pathetic racist who is desperate to find a way out. So you go with the "I'm a black man" which cannot be proven on an anonymous forum.
shareHahahaha!!! Oh wow. I'll just leave this RIGHT HERE because there's NO WAY a black man would think the way that I do, right? I'm all done here lol! Thanks for playing, Ultra. See you around the forums, my new friend.
It doesn't matter if you are a black man. The only thing that matters is why you brought it up. You pulled the race card to give yourself credentials that you know cannot be verified. It was your last ditch effort to win an argument. The problem is, if you have to pull that card, you admit you have no other way of winning.
shareNeckk,
Youre not being racist. The poster is another self-entitled girlie (as if her screenname doesn't give her away"), who feels poor minorities deserve more than the majority because it's the trendy-thing to say, and she is racist against whites.
Thanks, ProductionNow. Nice to hear some reasonable sense for once :)
shareYour welcome. But, for the record, I agree there should have been no physical violence between either party
shareOf course you agree with him. He described me as a "girlie" when I said nothing about my gender. I did not pull the gender card as you did with your race, yet here you are telling me what gender I am. You are literally pulling the gender card for me. Oh and I love that reply you gave to dteam about how he was wrong about field workers because YOU work in the fields. You are the king of cards, Neckkk. It's the only way you can win :)
shareSorry for the delayed respones. Im simply astounded that you didnt read my earlier posts in there entirety as Ive already addressed part of a solution. Step 1 - stop making everything about race as race does not superced any action. Guy in the video was wrong. I think we can all agree. But why make it about race, unless youre someone who views everything through race-tinted goggles. To simplify, take off your race-tinted goggles and address the foul act, not the race of anyone involved.
Serious question. My browser is squeezing my sentences and its difficult to respond do to the format. Is there any way around this, aside from leaving :).?
Serious question. My browser is squeezing my sentences and its difficult to respond do to the format. Is there any way around this, aside from leaving :).?
Lol that's EXACTLY what I did lol thanks, daddy. I DO appreciate it
shareYou're welcome.
shareNeckkk is black now, apparently. It's like magic!
shareI'm not sorry to not fit into your little box, Ultra. Your stupidity and close-mindedness is ASTOUNDING! Again, one of my first posts I claimed to have witnessed racism from both sides. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES
shareI called you a racist because you believe black people are genetically more violent.
You are calling me a racist because I refuse your claim of being black is legit due to the nature of this anonymous forum preventing such a thing from being proven.
Let that settle in, Neckkk.
Oh believe me, I WILL lololol! You can have the win. I have to work lol!!
Also,
[–] Neckk (74) 8 hours ago
You're incorrect. I actually appreciate you admitting to virtue signaling as you've given a couple of reasons why you belive doing so is a good thing. As a black man who grew up in the black culture, I want to tell you to knock it off and quit trying to speak for me. Many of us are sick and tired of other people trying to tell us that we're victims or that others take priority over us when the truth is that today, in 2019, is the best time ever to be black in America. To lie to myself would be to adopt your worldview, but I refuse to be the victim that you insinuate I am."
This was 8 HOURS AGO ;)
I called you a racist because you believe black people are genetically more violent.
You are calling me a racist because I refuse your claim of being black is legit.
Let that settle in, Neckkk.
Neckkk yesterday:
"Like most lefties, you have succeeded in putting emphasis on gender and race as opposed to the foul action(s) at hand."
Neckkk today:
"Sex and gender are the same."
"I KNOW that blacks are FAR more violent."
"I am black"
lol.
While I don't think political affiliation needed to be introduced into this situation, that you want to blame "mostly, pretty much the left," I want to comment. My feeling is conservatives don't like to be reminded how racist their party is and want to pretend it's never an element. This may not have been a hate crime, but most of the racial animus comes from people who identify as Republican and are pro-Trump's hateful agenda.
shareThis isnt true at all, unless youre one of the many on the left who redefine certain words to fit their world view (ie, racism/reverse racism, xenophobia, etc...). I will agree with you 100% that there are some racist people on the right, just as there are on the left.
I think the main distinction between the racists on the left and the right are the knuckheads on the right are proud to be racists, while the knuckleheads on the left don't know that theyre racist out of blatant ignorance. I.e, theres another leftist poster who claims that ridding the nation of illegal immigrants will result in our toilets being dirty since no one will clean them. THAT, is the classic definition of racism.
Also, the racism coming from democrats towards black conservatives is astounding and it's criminal that this isnt being reported on. But, thats another post for another day.
Thanks for your .02, sincerely.
You're welcome, I guess, and you have the right to have this opinion, but I think it's too easy to simply say Dems are just as racist while making a questionable assertion about ignorant racism and racism toward black conservatives. If black people choose to be conservative, it's their right, but most of us see that as selling out against their people's self interest. I'm sure Herman Cain and that other idiot presidential hopeful enjoy palling around with other rich folks, but it wasn't that long ago they would be banned from their country clubs, not to mention their schools and restaurants. I'm glad for their success but they could put their standing to better use.
share"If black people choose to be conservative, it's their right, but most of us see that as selling out against their people's self interest."
You don't see it, do you? THIS is exactly what I'm talking about regarding racism coming from the left. For clarity, I mean" ignorant" as in one was never taught. I don't mean it to sound malicious, and I'm sorry if I came off that way. But to say blacks have sold out at all is extremely racist, regardless which direction they lean.
Personally, Im a centrist, which pretty much puts me on the right. And as a black man, I've experienced first hand racism from all sides, from almost all races and cultures. I don't consider myself a sell-out, but i do consider myself free of the democrat plantation where im supposed to think and act a certain way, or else i'll be labled an "Uncle Tom" or as you put, a "sell-out".
Regardless, im grateful that we're both able to have a civil dialog :)
How about you provide a link to the footage.
sharehttps://wtkr.com/2019/01/02/video-shows-mcdonalds-worker-fight-back-after-customer-attacks-her-over-straw-police-say/
Here's a link that shows the video. Haven't followed it super closely but unless I missed something there was nothing indicating this guy was a Trump supporter or conservative or politically leaning one way or another. The guy is an asshole for sure but I havent seen any info regarding this guy's politics being particularly influential in his behavior.
Nor did I ever identify him as a conservative.
I did, however, ask conservatives how they felt about this assault.
True you didn't. But in response to TinaKimo you said it was outrageous what MAGA has done to this country which would imply you blame Trump's MAGA movement for either A) the asshole's behavior and/or B) the other males in the video who weren't quick to help her out. I haven't seen anything to indicate any of these people had strong political leanings and I think everyone needs to be careful of jumping to conclusions like that.
shareTalk about the "need to be careful of jumping to conclusions"...
My exact quote was:
It’s really outrageous of what #MAGA has done to this country. There is no more decency left.
I didn't say what #MAGA 'has done to this customer' or 'has done to the male coworkers'. I said 'to this country', which encompasses much more than those in the video. I didn't assign any party affiliations to anyone in the video, whatsoever.
Right, but that quote was in direct response to Tina's post which in its entirety read:
Happy New Year to you and everyone else! I saw the video and was sickened by it. So glad the lady was able to defend herself. Sick how none of the males helped her out until later.
So if you weren't talking about any of the people in the video, why was that your response to a post that mentioned nothing aside from the video? There was nothing in Tina's post about the direction our country was heading, just the McDonalds video. Why would your response be about MAGAs effect on this country if it had no relation to your thoughts on what occurred in this video? What other conclusion would someone draw from your response?
The conclusion to draw from my response is definitive: I made it clear I was referring to 'this country' in my post. I was very direct in my response - nothing for the reader to 'conclude' on their own, for it's very direct.
Again, i did not assign any political party to the customer, the coworkers, or anyone else in this McDonald's. If I wanted to single anyone out I certainly would have; but I clearly said 'this country'.
Right. So by that standard it would've been just as appropriate for a Trump supporter to reply to Tina's post with:
"It's really outrageous what illegal immigration has done to this country."
You have to realize that if you honestly didn't intend your comment to refer specifically to anyone in the video, then it's as nonsensical as the above hypothetical response.
1 I can't believe they can't have straws.
2. Yes he grabbed at the girl and she swung at him to get him off her.
I don't think the outrage is that he's a trump supporter. The accusastion seems to be that this is white on black assault.
Happy New Year to you and everyone else! I saw the video and was sickened by it. So glad the lady was able to defend herself. Sick how none of the males helped her out until later.
shareIt’s really outrageous of what #MAGA has done to this country. There is no more decency left.
shareIt's true. Notice how it's always people on the right who conveniently never notice the increase of blatant disrespect for people of color. They are the same people who whine that there's too much diversity in tv and films, even though those movies do a better job of showcasing what America actually looks like.
shareAnd its only the left that will ignor that people of color commit 57% of the violant crimes and call quoting stats an act of racisim. Notice who did the actual swinging in the video for example.
shareCrc, agreed. They'd rather inject racism where none exists rather than deal with data and facts.
shareYou got upset that we should not focus on race, but then you agreed with crc with the 57% crime rate being solely because of skin color and the reason why she swung at him.
Holy shit you are pathetic.
Ultra, IT IS A FACT that over 50% of all crime in the United States are done by blacks. How is this FACT offensive? I'm in no way, shape or form arguing that I'm not pathetic, for the record. But it seems that you're pretty offended by truth as you're attacking me ad hominems, which is always a good sign you're succeeding in getting your point across.
shareThe crime rate isn't offensive. He cited the 57% crime rate as the reason she swung back.
Your only way out is to pretend you didn't know what he was saying. Good luck.
Also, the fact is that poor communities with dense populations have that crime rate. But because black people are more likely to live there, you pin the violence on skin color. I could easily show you how skin color does not relate to violence, but you're not about that life.
Skin color shouldn't effect violence we all agree. We are still left to speculate if Its the culture violence grew out of that's the problem. The null hypothesis "There is no correlation between violence and skin color" doesn't hold true given the statistics at hand.
And dense poor black districts are still more violent then poor white districts and as such there are some internal cultural problems in the black community that should be addressed before people start trying to fix the avoidance behavior on the parts of the white population thats starting to surface due to it.
Dense poor districts are more violent than poor districts that are less dense. We can't compare dense white poor districts to sparse black poor districts since those things are occupied by opposite races. But we can determine that poor white people are accepted in more poor communities than poor black people are, and the communities that are the most notorious for rejecting black people are sparser poor communities.
So we have poor black people stuffed into densely populated poor communities (ghettos/slums) and we typically have white people in more rural poor communities which has a sparser population. Why don't a lot of white people live in ghettos? They are accepted elsewhere. Why don't black move out of the ghettos? They aren't as accepted in those poor rural areas. This isn't rocket science.
No ones talking about rural areas I'm talking about dense populated inner citiy demographics.
The statistics show this is a violent community. Stop making excuses and denying the problem and do something to solve it. If people really do believe black lives matter then solve this problem before you start highliging isolated incidents at some McDonalds in Florida. Highlighting the rare case of racism is only aggrevating the problem.
"IT IS A FACT..."
All caps don't change a lie into a fact.
The majority of crime is committed by whites according to FBI statistics. Whites make up 69.6% of all criminal arrests according to the latest statistics (2016).
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
- Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan
The majority of crime is committed by whites according to FBI statistics. Whites make up 69.6% of all criminal arrests according to the latest statistics (2016).
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They do??
Well, golly, since non-blacks are 87% of the population, I would think they do commit more crime in totality. Nice try.
Blacks' nonacceptance to admit that they are a burden to society due to their criminal behavior is a construct of their arrogance. Blacks (not all) want a free-pass for that too. Blacks and their instilled racism towards whites due to ex-slavery from 300 yrs ago is so tiresome. They're just spinning their wheels with that excuse.
"whites are 87% of the population"
No, whites make up 61.3% of the American population. (76.9% if you count white Hispanics which I'm sure you wouldn't.
"Trump must be a "white supremacist" (as you called him)"
Actually, Trump recently called himself a nationalist. Learn to pay attention.
I suggest you temper your racism since whites will be the minority in 2045 and chances are you'll depend on a black or Hispanic health aid worker to wipe your backside when you're too old to do it yourself.
ah..yeah, I refined that to "non-blacks" before you replied, in case you got persnickety over it. If you paid attention, you wouldn't be in such denial of your veiled-racism towards whites. You're transparent.
Maybe when you actually temper your arrogance and enable some humility within yourself, you will see the bigger picture with regards to crime/blacks/whites. Whites, with exceptions, do not look for excuses to act out their latent aggression for the sake of it against blacks. I'll stack my years of experience on this planet against yours anyway, sport.
And using "racism" as a convenient tool to gain sympathy and entitlement is wearing thin. Actually, a large percentage of blacks deem themselves superior, due to over-compensating for their insecurity. Get you act together and you may redeem yourself, in addition to being a better role-model for those that follow after you.
If you paid attention than you would know that the FBI crime stat re: 67% of crime committed by whites was in reply to a fake stat by another poster.
You're obviously projecting considering how many bigoted comments are in your post. Like I wrote, you're going to have an ugly future if you can't learn to get along with various people.
The majority of crime is committed by whites according to FBI statistics. Whites make up 69.6% of all criminal arrests according to the latest statistics (2016).
Repeating the same lie doesn't turn it into a fact.
BTW, those crime stats for whites will be higher after Mueller gets through with Trump and his cronies.
Keelai your conspiracy laced mind is too far gone for me to even consider an apologetics based argument with you.
share"random sample of 7 white people and 1 black guy given a violent crime has been commited theirs already a 57% chance the black guy commited the cr ime."
No, statistically most whites are killed by other whites. You're not too bright, are you? You must be a Trump cultist.
Keelai when I first met you you were trying toconvince me that North Korea is a free enterprise state and that North Korea had a higher GDP per capita then the united states, This is why everything you say lacks credability.
share1. You have never met me.
2.
"...North Korea is a free enterprise state.."
I actually wrote that N. Korea is looking the other way while many citizens are illegally running small businesses or finding other ways to illegally supplement their income. Both the government and the citizens know that the government cannot be relied on to support them if there is another crisis like the crop failure (from flooding) in which scores of people died from famine.
Your reading comprehension is low.
3. According to the FBI:
White victim and white killer = 82%
black victim and black killer = 90%
"...when whites are murdered anywhere in the country, the murderer is five times more likely to be white than nonwhite. (This ratio counts only murder cases in which information about the offender is known by law enforcement.)"
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-males-white-americans-violence-sanctuary-cities-20170803-story.html
4. You and Trump makeup nonsense out of your head and think it's real. At least I provide links to my sources. The FBI statistics gathered from national law enforcement agencies are a lot more credible than your delusions.
keelai I reject your stats cause just on the fact they came from you alone. I reject your sanity I reject your conspiracy theories I reject you as any intelligent person around here would. No one can compete with the made up reality in your mind nor should we be motivated too. Your done end of story go sell crazy some place else.
shareYou reject FBI crime stats because you prefer to remain willfully ignorant in order to maintain a distorted worldview that provides emotional comfort.
You insult because you can't reply with any facts to support your opposing comments.
The whole purpose of this post was to race bait the discussion of a white man attacking a black girl. I'm pointing out the statistics to show the rarity of white on black crime vs black on black or black on white. If the left wants to talk about race then lets tallk about race.
I'm of the firm opinion that when ever the left claims they want to have a discussion about race all they really intend to do is bitch out white people.
White on black crime shouldn't be a thing. Not because of race but because white people and black people typically live in different areas and black people generally have less valuables to steal. Black on black crime is more prevalent but only in dense poor communities which white people have an easier time living away from.
When black people move out of a poor community and into a middle class community, the crime rate does not go up in the middle class community. It stays the same. How? Because the "culture" of the poor black person stays in the poor black community. It does not follow them because it is not an actual culture. That is why blaming it on race or culture is stupid. It's all about the infrastructure and opportunities of the community. If they aren't there, violence goes up no matter what your skin color is.
The problem you are having is there is no densely populated poor white community to compare with the numerous densely populated black communities. Poor white people get to live in places that are more sparse which is where poor black people are rejected. And because of that your brain switches off and you get stuck on race.
We do have dense populations of hispanic areas (Considered white for some reason on census data) that arn't nearly as violent as dense black cummunities. What fantasy do you live in.
What cultural problems are causing this perhaps?
1. A culture that seems to advocate fatherless african children. The breakdown of the African nuclear family is the biggest culprit to poverty.
2. A culture of "dear white people" its all your fault mentality that allows passive aggressive barriers to black people attempting to perform in economic success
3. Overall poor performance in education. (I advocate nationwide equal funding of school districts to combat this. I contend its not fair that poor people have poor access to education. Children can't pick what school they go to or choose their parents so equalizing funding of these districts will help greatly in the long term. I hate to bring up the elephant in the room but statistical evidence also indicates that black people perform an entire standard deviation below their white peers on IQ tests, strangly this occurs across the globe and not isolated to the United States. . A lower average IQ should be no barrier to learning however so I advocate that teachers allocate more time teaching African Americans students to bring them up to parity with their peers. (This is a contraversal idea as it would give preference to black students but I think its more effective then affirmative action thats already doing just that. I'm also not advocating cutting affrimative action I'm just saying it should be extended to education time African American students receive.
4. On the male youth side a culture of violence and crime being celebrated in certain musical sectors of the african music market doesn't help violent attitudes. Music that advocates violence is hard to find in non black markets and is certainly not as popular then the African American markets. This of course is an extension of cultural problem #2 that gives impressionable young black males the belief that a life of crime is the only exit to poverty. I get so tired of hearing the 50 cent mantra "You gotta do what you gotta do to survive". This can't be solved by the government this needs to be solved in the home.
Again just stop trying to make excuses and deal with the real problems head on. Its not racism to advocate pulling black people out of poverty by realistic means that can actually work as opposed to just shitting on the non black community.
It's a culture of the poor, not of skin color. White poor people are just as likely to be dead-beat dads, but there's a much smaller percentage of poor white people compared to poor black people but instead of analyzing that discrepancy you focus on mere skin color and call it the culture of Africans. Bleh. And densely populated poor Hispanic neighborhoods are just as violent as densely populated poor black neighborhoods. But again they aren't as prevalent. "White" Hispanics have more opportunities to migrate to less dense areas due to fitting in better with white people. When they fit in there the violence does not follow them.
So at some point you're just going to have to accept that you are a racist. What's more is I can prove it simply by the fact you only showed up here to talk about race. I'm willing to bet that's the only time you appear on Donald Trump's board which is the most active board on this site. You strolled across a thread about a white guy attacking a black woman and you had to chime in just like that Neckk guy. No other topic on the Trump board interests you because you are a racist in denial.
Sorry, guy. Truth is truth.
White poor people are just as likely to be dead-beat dads,
"Just deal with the actual problem instead of making an excuse for it."
Easier said than done. It's an infrastructure problem combined with an entire political party saying there is nothing to fix and black people just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and move into whiter neighborhoods that aren't as welcoming.
"No I responded because a racially charged post that tried to depict this strange homeless man's behavior as the norm was directed towards conservatives."
I checked your post history. The only time you reply on the Donald Trump board is on racial topics such as black vs white, Muslims/terrorism or immigration.
At some point, you should just accept it.
1. Being against black lives matters attacking our cities isn't racism.
2. Refusing to cave in to terrorism by fighting back at it is not racism.
3. Admitting that we can't afford giving benifits to every illegal immigrant that wants in our country is not racism. And refusing to tolerate the violent ones especially isn't racism.
All three cases involve life and death situations that any rational American will argue against so all the left can do is try to stigmatize conservatives by calling them racist in hopes they will back down. You should accept who you are on the left and own up to your dishonest arument posture.
Violent crimes are a result of poor communities with dense populations. Since people with dark skin are the ones pushed into those areas, you assume the violence is because of their race and not their circumstances.
share I assume nothing but only state the evidence at hand.
Your assertion is poor people are violent.
Black people are disproportionately poor
therefor black people are disproportionately violent.
At least your recognize there is some problems in this community that should be addressed rather then shining a light on this strange isolated mcdonalds incident.
People of color have blatant disrespect for those of non-color . And "diversity" does not entitle more opportunity if not based on the percentage of whites vs. blacks .
shareAnother idiot who didn't watch the video. The white guy grabbed her, she fought back, and the black employees calmly separated him.
shareHe was arrested and charged with battery, appropriately so.
shareGood! Poor excuses of humans like that dont deserve to walk about. I hope the lady is ok..
sharehe was charged with simple assault which in most states is a class B misdemeanor at most. Simple assault can be as simple as pointing your finger into some ones chest.
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What do i think about a 40 year old homeless man going crazy in McDonald's? Not to much to be quite honest. I mean what am i supposed to think? Oh no a homeless man went crazy in McDonald's let's open up the boarders and genocide whitey. Get a grip man
shareHe probably wanted to be arrested to have some food and shelter to be quite honest
shareHe probably wanted to be arrested to have some food and shelter to be quite honest
Interestingly, when a white person commits a crime, an excuse is found for it like he must be crazy or he's homeless so he wants to go to prison. Blacks don't get that same consideration.
A number of studies have shown this racist double standard:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/there-they-go-again-making-excuses-for-the-paddocks_us_59d6465be4b085c51090ae05
That's because he's white. If he was black or latino attacking a white female employee this way, you wouldn't be dismissing this as 'wanting to be arrested to have some food and shelter'.
shareUmmm Yes i would
shareYou're just trying to be charming. Not going to work.
shareYou are trying to tie a homeless man snapping in public to white supremacy and it's not going to work now piss off
shareI’m calling you out on your bullish!t. And you don’t like that.
shareYou know i watched the movie Gridlock'd a whole bunch of times and i never once saw the scene with the homeless man as "Oh man typical black guy amiright" i saw it as a homeless man going crazy and wondering if i could blame him in his situation.
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What do i think about a 40 year old homeless man going crazy in McDonald's? Not to much to be quite honest. I mean what am i supposed to think? Oh no a homeless man went crazy in McDonald's let's open up the boarders and genocide whitey. Get a grip man
Maybe some of that $5B that T-rump wants for "the wall" (or 'fence' or 'clothesline' - take your pick), would be better used going to fight homelessness, so irate white homeless men won't attack black female employees at McDonald's!
shareMaybe liberals should focus on establishing a living wage like they are supposed to instead of trying to make our kids gay and we might fix the homeless problem
share“Make our kids gay???? “ Am I reading that right??? Did you really put that out there in public to show the world how dumb you are? Seriously????
share"Maybe liberals should focus on establishing a living wage like they are supposed to instead of trying to make our kids gay and we might fix the homeless problem."
Quick and to the point. Pretty much sums it up. Well said
Sure why not.
shareHas nothing to do with politics. Most think he's a piece of garbage. Only leftists support violent criminals.
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