Trump nominates Judge Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court
And there we go
shareShould just be a few minutes or so before the left starts the attack.
shareAlready lots of protests outside waving Pro-Choice and Protect Roe v Wade stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSRkCAWpMzE
good link...thanks. thats some crazy stuff going on, that one dude has a nice sign...
shareWell,at least they waited to see if was an issue worth protesting,lol. They probably had those signs made years ago!
shareYou mean Americans. The US is based on liberal ideas. Left = American.
shareLol, you might want to let the 2016 election know about this.
shareThe one where the Democrat got 3 million more votes than the Republican?
shareOh, you mean the election that was campaigned knowing that the popular vote was irrelevant? If Hillary's goal was to win the popular vote and ignore the rules and not care if she won the electoral college,then she did great,lol! Fortunately, Trump ran his campaign knowing that the popular vote didn't matter, so his strategy was aligned with the system in place. But don't let me stand in the way of you seeing facts through a bitter lens,lol.
shareYou responded to a poster who was discussing Americans, not the voting system.
shareAnd I was explaining why the results were what they were. Your trying to imply that the results indicate a preference,and I'm showing you that your logic is greatly flawed. You know what you were doing,nice try though. Hate to disappoint you with facts.
shareRepublican: Nu uh! 3 million illegal/dead voters. RIGGED!!
shareHahaha,this from the left who can't stop whining about non-existent,and perfectly legal collusion,lol. That's the Democrats literally complaining that the results were rigged,lol. The Republicans (which I'm not) don't have to complain because they won. But thanks,I needed a good laugh.
shareAmerica’s founding fathers were classical liberals, meaning they favored liberty, private property, capitalism, freedom of religion, and a limited Even our most conservative founders like Alexander Hamilton, George Washington, John Adams, and Republican style of government. See definition of classical liberalism.[1][2][3]
In fact, the founding fathers of America weren’t just “liberals”, they were Republicans, Federalists, and Democrats too. They were Patriots, they were a lot of things, but one thing they weren’t were monarchists or loyalists to the crown. The father of modern political science and modern Republicanism Machiavelli said, “the governments of the people are better than those of princes” [Book I, Chapter LVIII of Livy], and in the Spirit of Montesquieu’s “Liberal” Republicanism they agreed (although they often didn’t agree on much beyond that).
I say this only as a technicality, and from a historical perspective, as the Tories, King’s men, and Loyalists (the conservatives of the day) were all but forced to choose between “The Crown” and the principles of Liberalism due to the events leading up to the Revolution and America’s victory in it.[4]
The founders shared general ideology with both major parties of today (Democrats and Republicans), but the key here is that America is a liberal nation and what we think of as “conservative” is actually liberal-conservative (like Burke, not classically truly conservative like a King to the right of Hobbes).
This can be confirmed by thinking about the “American Revolution” where our patriot founders fought the King’s men to create a Democratically-minded Liberal Republic.
After the Revolution, many conservative loyalists were forced to flee, and those who stayed weren’t always treated kindly.
Certainly, no loyalist (no true Tory, Loyalist, or King’s men; i.e. no “true” conservative) was going to have a position in the new government. The leaders of the new government would be comprised solely of Patriots.
Ideology is not the same as formal political parties. The latter use ideology to unite like minded people for the purpose of gaining influence and power. Up until the 90s, both major American parties had liberal members because both parties were originally the same liberal party. Liberalism and conservatism has manifested in various ways over the centuries but it boils down to liberalism is inclusive while conservatism is exclusive. Conservatism stems from the base instinct to distrust outsiders and be more accepting of people like ourselves.
shareI remember hearing about liberal conservatives and liberals years ago. But like you said those days are long gone. What we have now are two distinct parties that despise each other. Repubs hate Dems and Dems hate Repubs. Its a no win situation for our country. And now people get their news from opinion based outlets. Repubs think Fox news tells the truth and Dems think MSNBC tells the truth, they both can't be reporting truthful facts about the same thing. Sometimes I wonder what America would be like if Dems and Repubs worked together for the betterment of our country. Maybe someday there will be a breaking point but as things are going now, its a long ways away.
shareI didn't say that but there were liberal Republicans. Parties change over time.
shareThey have definitely changed and changed for the worse.
shareYou mean Ron Paul? I think what you have in mind is warmongers like John McCain. He is the type considered sane moderate centrist by the corporate media.
The real history of the party of Lincoln is that they have always been a big business party. Lincoln was a railroad lobbyist. This was the start of government as the enforcer of cartels, because historically cartels never lasted on their own. The Democrats were largely libertarian, until it was co-opted by Republican defectors known as Progressives and became just another business party who wanted financial control and dependence with issues like central banking, income tax, and worldwide war. This is easy to verify because we can see that voter participation dropped sharply and has never recovered as the two parties came to mirror each other. This is ironic because the Progressives liked to talk about expanding democracy, but what they really meant was politicizing more aspects of life by giving business friendly government control over it. So many people switch parties and the two become hodgepodge of special interests.
Did you know that it was normal for mainstream Democrats to say they were against immigration in the 90? You are not even allowed to say the word illegal now. This is the party that has changed. It has become a ghetto as America shifts far left due to demographic transformation, and the remaining working class abandon Democrat for Republican. Trump is a throwback to their old ethos of get government off our backs and mind your own business, like the founding fathers wanted.