Why exactly did this Orange clown run for presidency? - Donald Trump Discussion

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 7 years ago

Why did Obama run? Lord knows he did nothing of worth.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Obama actually had good intentions will hold a legacy regardless or how people feel about him.

- Do you know how many people benefited from Obama care?? And what does Trump want to do?? Get rid of it.

- Have you seen Barak Obama exhibit the same childish and racist behavior that Trump has?? Cause I certainly didn't.

-m

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[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 7 years ago

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

If by spine, you mean acting like a racist punk and brat.

Besides, Obama was president for 8 years not 9.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

What the fuck does Beyoncé have to do with anything?

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[–] FordFairlane (299) 7 years ago

You obviously haven been paying attention. During the time the Obama was president, he was blocked at every turn by a corrupt republican party that controlled the houses. How exactly do you think government works?

Trump has both houses on his side and he still cant get shit done. Hes shown no "spine" whatsoever. Hes boasted and beat his chest but hes done nothing. Unless of course you count sticking up for racist and bigots shows "spin"?

At some point youll start to notice that trump is nothing more than a bully who likes to suck his own dick. And nop amount of whataboutisms can deflect it. Its who he is. He conned america by telling them what the wanted to hear about issues that just arent that straight forward. For all of obamas issues, trying to get shit done wasnt one of them. But even if it was, so what? Hes gone now. This shouldnt be a my guy is better than your guy argument. Theres no need to defend him just because hes on your side of the red blue divide. Whoever sits in that chair has a responsibility to all americans, not just the ones he deems are worthy.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

Ford:

"At some point youll start to notice that trump is nothing more than a bully who likes to suck his own dick."
Exactly! And he dosen't understand how as president, his words and actions are going to affect everyone in this country and some parts of this world. I swear, I still can't believe we have this fckg old backwards out-of-date, out-of-touch idiot who seem to think he's still running his real estate business, and thinks that everybody still has to jump when he says "jump", as our so-called president---he's nothing but a damn joke. I cringe every time he dumb-a** makes a speech because he never comes off like he actually knows what the hell he's talking about, and seems to spend more time insulting anybody who dosen't automatically bend over for him than anything else. He's a horrible role model, and it's pretty clear that he's spent his entire life not living in the real world because he's rich, unlike the rest of us ordinary people.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

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[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 7 years ago

that's the thing, Obama achieved nothing.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

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[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 7 years ago

lol he's shown more spine in 8 months than Obama did in 8 years, and I don't want to achieve being a fraud like he was so I don't care.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

LetThemEatCake;
Yes, he did---he created a national health care plan so that all Americans can be covered, and he made gay marriage legal throughout the country for the first time. Look it up--it'll only take you 90 seconds. What have you done of worth lately? Clearly not a damn thing worth mentioning,obviously.

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[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 7 years ago

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

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[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 7 years ago

No, YOU have no clue, gay marriage is the result of 60 years of activism, not of Social Media Obama. All he did was pose for selfies and pardon spies for social media likes.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

LetThemEatCake:

He did his job as president,a hell of a lot more so that the ignorant idiot clown fool with the fake hair and the big, loud stupid-a** mouth is doing now. So your stupid assertion that all he did was take selfies is ridiculous. What has trumpf done that you can actually point to, and say that it was something he's actually gotten done in the none months he's been in office, other than talk a bunch of BS and go around pissing people off with insults (which is all he ever seems to do anyway) The reality is, gay folks have been kicking it with each other since Biblical times---that's nothing new---civil unions, or no civil unions. Like I said, look up what Obama actually got accomplished, despite the fact that the republicans were determined not to let him get one damn thing done, no matter how much it could help their constituents.

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[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 7 years ago

Trump has just begun, and how did he even do his job?? he was beyond fucking pathetic, the zenith of his patheticness or whatever was when Netanyahu insulted him on the senate floor and he did nothing.

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[–] Daggerboard (581) 7 years ago

Ego, financial benefit. He didn't think he would actually win, he just wanted the attention and to be labeled "presidential candidate". Now that he's in, I believe he's torn between his ego and his former lifestyle. He has no personal ideology to fight for or defend. He just wants to appear to make good on his campaign promises, and gets mad at Congress when they don't make him look good.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Well today's announcement regarding DACA says a lot about Trump doesn't it?? Smdh

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[–] wheelin176 (2054) 7 years ago

True. I don't think he expected to win.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

I'm wondering why you're adding attention for him since he's looking for attention and you don't like him. Get over it and don't feed the trolls.

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[–] Bubbathegut (18095) 7 years ago

Hillary 0-2
Trump 1-0

ahpwnedsauce!

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[–] therefdotcom (964) 7 years ago

dukakis 1-2

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[–] Bubbathegut (18095) 7 years ago

Albuquerque

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[–] therefdotcom (964) 7 years ago

soap

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[–] Bubbathegut (18095) 7 years ago

dukakis?

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[–] therefdotcom (964) 7 years ago

thats a double, so we have to substract that from your total score.

my turn again:

krypton

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[–] Bubbathegut (18095) 7 years ago

Wait a minute, I don't remember Dukakis being President.

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[–] earl237 (1106) 7 years ago

His ego, he likes power. Some think that he ran just because Obama and some comedians roasted him at the 2011 White House correspondents dinner, wouldn't be surprised if that's the real reason.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

earl237:
He can't stand the fact that a black man became president, which is why he kept pushing this stupid fake-a** claim that Obama wasn't born here (which he was.) Funny how he never questioned any of the previous presidents' legitimacy, but as soon as that birther bull**** got rolling, he jumped on the bandwagon and ran with it, even getting on TV and screaming like a damn maniac that he'd give a million dollars to charity if Obama could prove he was born here---it was so embarrassing and stupid as hell, it was sickening. He's also pissed off because he's never going to be half the president or even half the man Obama is, and deep down he knows it. That's why he slams Obama all the time, because trumpf,when you get down to it, is just a jealous whiny-a** hater, lol. Any normal person with any damn common sense would try to get all the advice about being a first-time president they could from the previous president, in order to make things easier for themselves, but, nope, trumpf's too damn vain and arrogant to think he could learn anything from anybody. That's why he has so many problems getting anything done---plus he dosen't seem to have even the slightest idea of how the government works at all, or how he can get it to work, or how to even work with other politicians to get anything done. He still thinks he can run the government like he ran his businesses---however he wants to, which is stupid, counterproductive,and idiotic. If's that how he ran his companies, no wonder he went bankrupt nearly six damn times. At least he finally made a deal with the Dems to get something done, because his way sure as hell isn't working.

And here's another case years ago in which he basically tried to help get a friend of his who just happened to be a convicted felon and major drug dealer get off with a shorter sentence. So trying to pardon the Sheriff Arpaio (which, legally only applies to federal, not state, crimes, so it dosen't even apply to Arpaio's situation) isn't the first time he's tried to help a convicted criminal,so to speak:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/the-donald-and-the-dealer-173892

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[–] Rorikon (17940) 7 years ago

You don't have to worry. He just got rid of DACA. So illegal kids that contribute towards a path to citizenship (800,000+) can now be deported since there is no renewal for the visa. I think it's pretty clear Trump is pro-law even though it seems he's just going after minorities or those who aren't white which is mostly the illegals in this case. We should also make sure Trump doesn't hiring any illegal migrants or cheap labor. Must hire American so he can pay more. :)

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[–] Daggerboard (581) 7 years ago

This is way overblown. DACA is only a temporary program, does not make those kids "legal", and does not guarantee a future in the U.S. Even Obama admitted it was only meant to be temporary. His faux outrage now (along with the media) is pretty pathetic. Only Congress can fix this problem. Which was true before, during, and after DACA.

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

Most decent people are outraged over Donald "some Nazis are fine people" Trump's bigotry. He's clearly a white supremacist who wants to rid the United States of anyone who isn't a WASP.

He also lied about a 6 month deferment since new DACA cases will no longer be allowed. A bipartisan bill was introduced in July, so bigoted Trump didn't need to address DACA at all. The bill would allow conditional permanent residence.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1615/text

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[–] Daggerboard (581) 7 years ago

First off, if you're going to use quotes, the quote should be accurate. Second, I was talking about the faux outrage with this DACA stuff, not Charlottesville, so don't conflate the two. Trump is first and foremost an ignoramus who loves good attention. He thought he would get good attention by doing what he THINKS his base wants. Obviously, when that doesn't work, he goes to work with the Dems because the press bias is much more favorable than for the Republicans. He has proven he has no understanding of how govt works or of policy he puts forth. He just watches tv all day long to see what people are saying about him. When he hears he's being mean to "children", he changes course and says not to worry. He says all children will be taken care of in a big way. A very big way. Because he loves all the children.
The man is an idiot.

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

His bigotry started long before Charlottesville so don't act like it's a one time thing.

It's goes beyond what his base wants. It's what he wants because he's a bigot too. It should be obvious by now. The time to end denial has come.

He's a real estate developer from NYC. I promise you he knows more about how government works than you will ever know. Hobnobbing with politicians who have been bought by his ilk in NYC is how they get their luxury condos built complete with tax breaks and faux affordable housing deals. $3,000 a month rent = affordable my a**.

Did it ever occur to you he is pretending to be an idiot so that he is underestimated? I found it interesting that his speeches to his base were barely coherent but he became very articulate when speaking privately with the Mexican president on the phone. Also he uses plenty of deflection which is a tactic used by lawyers. Continue to underestimate him.

He clearly has an agenda and creating policies which are doing damage to non-whites, LGBT, immigrants, working-class/poor and women. More tax-breaks for him and his rich friends and change laws to favor him and his rich friends. Keep hoping for those high-paying factory jobs, suckers.

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[–] Daggerboard (581) 7 years ago

"His bigotry started long before Charlottesville so don't act like it's a one time thing."
I didn't. I was saying his love of self takes priority over his bigotry.

"Did it ever occur to you he is pretending to be an idiot so that he is underestimated?"
Yes, like two years ago. I got over it. He certainly fakes it at times, but the fact he thought he could get any policy through he wants, and has fits behind closed doors when Congress doesn't cooperate, shows he's an idiot. Like Obama. Obama went in thinking he was a king. He wasn't.

"Continue to underestimate him."
He won. He's president. What difference does it make now if I underestimate him? I either agree with policy, or I don't.

"He clearly has an agenda and creating policies which are doing damage to non-whites, LGBT, immigrants, working-class/poor and women."
Lol. That's what I'm talking about. Hysteria. If you're a white man, how has your life improved? If you're any of the other things listed, how has he damaged your life? Obama's policies raised my insurance costs over 4000%. He certainly damaged many people's lives.

One more thing. Do you know what the "D" in DACA stands for? Deferred. Do you know what "deferred" means? Delayed. It was not permanent, and any illegal alien should have been prepared there might come a time to pay the consequences for being in a country illegally.

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

"...Hysteria. If you're a white man, how has your life improved? If you're any of the other things listed, how has he damaged your life? Obama's policies raised my insurance costs over 4000%. He certainly damaged many people's lives."

According to you, Obama damaged many lives, but Trump damaging lives is hysteria. What hypocrisy!
BTW, Republicans are notorious for sabotaging Obamacare since they want it to fail. It's not a coincidence that Republican states have more problems with it than Democratic states. You should research what your local politicians' policies are re:Obamacare and how that's impacting you instead of scapegoating Obama.

Trump is a sociopath so I'm not surprised he would attack children. Why are you defending that though? If the U.S. bombed or destabilized another country's government, then there shouldn't be any complaining if their citizens come here.

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[–] Daggerboard (581) 7 years ago

"You should research what your local politicians' policies are re:Obamacare and how that's impacting you instead of scapegoating Obama."
My local politicians are dems who agreed with Obama's policies.

"Trump is a sociopath"
Agreed.

"Why are you defending that though?" I'm defending the rule of law. If someone embezzled millions, and gave his family a certain lifestyle, should we make sure his family keeps that lifestyle after he's thrown in jail? It's all they know!! To be clear, I, personally, don't think those brought here illegally should be sent back their home country. I'm open to a compromise of them never getting citizenship. It's the EXPECTATION that Americans "owe" them because they have "contributed to society" that bothers me. They should be THANKING the U.S. for the opportunities they have been given, and shouldn't be trying to make citizens feel guilty for wanting control over who comes in their own country. They should be angry with their parents for putting them in this position, not the American people who have made sure they get schooling, shelter, and food. We have a legal immigration system and should give priority to those waiting patiently (and legally) in line.

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

"My local politicians are dems who agreed with Obama's policies."

Mine are too and Obamacare is thriving. Most insurers are going to make a profit and it's stabilizing in most areas. The problem states tend to be red because of legislators sabotaging it and red state citizens tend to be less healthy than in blue states so their costs are higher.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/editorials/article161423163.html

But that law is stupid, hypocritical and racist. I see a racist irony when most whiners re:illegals are European descendants crying about people like Mexicans when most have obvious Indian ancestry. There is an American law that states no American Indian of minimum 50% ancestry can be denied entry to the U.S. if born in Canada and then obtain a green card (INA § 289 [8 U.S.C. § 1359].

No reason not to include Mexico especially when a large part of the west used to be Mexico. I would love to see an enterprising immigration lawyer fight on these grounds for a client.

"They should be THANKING the U.S. for the opportunities they have been given"

They are. They just want to be left alone. Again, it takes a sociopath/bigot to attack children and break-up families. And you're still defending Trump's malady.

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[–] Daggerboard (581) 7 years ago

"Obamacare is thriving"

Lol! If that were true, why are dems admitting it needs to be fixed? Healthcare is a commodity and should be treated as such. "A system that emphasizes equity over efficiency will end up with neither, while a system that emphasizes efficiency over equity will end up with a good deal of both." - Milton Friedman

"They are."

Haven't seen it.

"Again, it takes a sociopath/bigot to attack children and break-up families."

The only people who are breaking up families are the families themselves. And when the reasoning resorts to calling people racists and bigots for wanting to control who comes into their own home, the argument is already lost.

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

Anything can be improved. Prices should be stabilized, more people added and increased competition. You must know that Republican voters want Obamacare and made sure their reps heard them during those townhall meetings. At this point, Dems and Reps need to work together for national health insurance like every other westernized nation.

Friedman? Inefficiency = Republicans trying to replace Obamacare.
One thing I will agree with Trump about is the incompetence of the Republican party which complained for years and can't come up with anything when the ball is finally in their court.

Let's talk capitalism. How do you feel about politicians taking money from large corporations to maintain monopolies that artificially keep prices high for consumers? Sanders just submitted a universal health insurance bill and says he will fight pharmaceutical and health insurance companies. Finally.

"Haven't seen it."
I used to work in immigration. I saw it all the time. I also live in a city with a high immigration population. It could be 1am in the morning, blackout with a foot of snow on the ground and the local store operated by immigrants will still be open. Legal or illegal; most have a stronger work ethic and respect for education than native-born. I never heard an immigrant whine about a "liberal education".

"...calling people racists and bigots for wanting to control who comes into their own home.."

Funny you should phrase it that way considering that Trump was successfully sued by the Federal government for housing discrimination against blacks and Latinos.

BTW, most Dems and Reps politicians want immigrants here because they help the economy. Trump knows zip about economics. And high-paying factory jobs are not returning.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

Daggerboard:
What makes you think they aren't grateful? Most of these people under DACA were brought here as kids or literally straight-up babies, so America is the only home they know. They work for what they have,too---exactly who is saying that society "owes" them anything? Some weren't even told they were illegal until they got older. And the reality is, legally applying for citizenship can take years, depending on what country you come from. It's definitely not as easy as most Americans think it is. And immigrants forced to come here from war-torn countries where they would have gotten killed or got bombed out of their homes (like the Syrian refugees) obviously no longer had the luxury of waiting for citizenship (that is, if they even wanted to come here in the first place.) They're the ones placed where they have to be vetted for for an entire year and a half before they are even considered viable for a green card.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

Daggerboard:
Oh, stop lying. If Obamacare is so damn horrible, than how come you've had so many people screaming in town halls at their representatives in Congress to NOT repeal Obamacare, because they needed the coverage it provided? And why haven't you switched providers if it it's so bad? And there's the fact that the republicans had at least seven years to come up with a replacement for Obamacare, and never even bothered to, even though they tried to stop it and did nothing but complain about it for the last seven years. There's at least 18 to 20 million on Obamacare that actually need it, regardless of the rates they pay. Granted,they're high in some cases, but trump's so-called repeal would make things even more expensive/higher. And DACA provides a way for only illegal immigrants brought here as children through no fault of their own to earn citizenship by staying in school, working, reporting to ICE about every month, or joining the military. They can't have a criminal record at all,either. Those are the requirements for staying in the program. If they can't fulfill those, I think they get deported. So it's a way for them to earn their way to citizenship. Ain't a damn thing wrong with that.
Also, Obama didn't go in thinking he was a king, or any of that nonsense. Obama had no problem admitting that he didn't know all the answers, and didn't mind calling himself on his own mistakes. And since you Obama haters keep forgetting, he was both a senator and a Congressman for nearly a decade before he ran for president. trumpf is the one who walked in thinking he was Mr. Big S*** and still does---he acts like nobody can tell him anything, even when he obviously knows nothing at all, and won't listen to anyone tell him a damn thing anyway. And what I find disturbing is that he NEVER wants to admit he makes any mistakes---as if there's something wrong with that, like it's some kind of damn weakness or something (which it isn't.) All mature adults do--he ain't one,though

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[–] Daggerboard (581) 7 years ago

"Oh, stop lying. If Obamacare is so damn horrible, than how come you've had so many people screaming in town halls at their representatives in Congress to NOT repeal Obamacare"
Because people like my family are paying for their premiums. They don't want to have to pay for it themselves, so they scream. And if it's so great, how did Republicans get in power? Why did Dems lose over 1000 seats during Obama's reign? Because Obamacare is so awesome? You're right about the Republicans not doing anything about it, though. They lied about fixing it because they never thought they'd win the executive and both houses. And to be clear, I'd like everyone to get the healthcare they need. But Obamacare is an absolute mess.

"And why haven't you switched providers if it it's so bad?"
Are you kidding?? We got the best deal available to us.

"And since you Obama haters keep forgetting, he was both a senator and a Congressman for nearly a decade"
You have a problem with facts, don't you? He was never a congressman (representative). He was a state senator (big deal), during which time he pushed for allowing children born alive during abortions to NOT be given any care because "it would burden the original decision of the mother". Obama is so cold and heartless, he pushed policy of letting the most helpless to suffer and die. "Obama-hating" isn't the issue. Truth is.

Regarding DACA and Trump, it appears you have either misunderstood what I've written, or just feel like ranting, so I'll let those go.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

Daggerboard:
Do your damn research. Those people screaming at their own district reap not to get rid of Obamacare ARE people who are paying for it because they're on themselves,or a family member of theirs is. They are people who are ON Obamacare,you fool. You and your family aren't paying for s***, THEY are because they're on it. How the hell can you pay for something you yourself don't even have? And, the repubs didn't come up with an alternative because they never even tried to see if they could come up with one. Since they hated Obamacare so much, how come they never even bothered to try and replace it? And you're only said it's a mess because that's just a repub talking point from conservatives who have never even tried to understand how it even works. You can watch videos on youtube with testimonies from people on Obamacare who said that it literally saved their lives, especially for people with pre-existing condition who usually find it difficult to get any kind of medical insurance. Or look up testimonies of actual people that are actually on Obamacare. Yes, the premium price need to be lowered to make them more affordable, but trumpf's propsed changes would have only driven up premiums even more. So how was that going to make things any being for health insurance? The idiot didn't even read the bill---he spent more time haranging the republicans to vote for more than he actually did on trying to learn and get a basic understanding of how health care works.

And where did you get that BS claim that Obama "pushed for allowing children born alive during abortions to NOT be given any care because "it would burden the original decision of the mother"." According to this article, he never, ever, supported infanticide---it's way more complicated than that,and about the differences in the state bills and laws he did support--but then you trumpf supporters/Obama haters don't give a damn about facts unless they support trumpf's lying-a**:

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obama-and-infanticide/

Also,Obama was a state rep. for six years and U.S. State Senator for three----something it would have taken you all of 15 seconds to find out. But like I said, you ignorant trumpfheads can't deal with any issue that's more complicated than a simple "I hate liberals" or " I'll support anything trumpf does because he panders directly to my racism and sexism and fear of seeing my town/city losing work."

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

Keelai;
Honestly, trumpf is not even that damn smart. He knows how to put on a good front and say what people want to hear---but let's be real---he is nowhere near that intelligent on the sophisticated level you need to be to make it in politics. And hobnobbing with a group of local politicians in order to buy them off for favors is nowhere near the level of having to do the job of running an actual country full of 250 million people---it is in no way, shape or form the same thing. It's much bigger and much more complicated. Stop trying to give him credit where he dosen't deserve it. Someone actually said that same thing to me before, and I still think it's a bunch of bull****. Frankly, he comes off as more arrogant and loudmouthed, and more of a bully than smart on anything. And, yeah, he's been a racist POS for years--it definitely didn't start with Charlottesville or the campaign. A smart person would know how to cover their tracks, and he obviously dosen't---he thinks he's so above everything that he dosen't even have to.

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

Not much you wrote that I don't agree with. I believe he does have an extremist right-wing agenda with some minor success like the partial Muslim ban, DACA disruption, Paris Agreement, defunding/incompetent appointees/understaffed agencies (less government?), defunding/stopping some of ACA like advertisement.

"He knows how to put on a good front and say what people want to hear"
Agree. Very manipulative.

"he thinks he's so above everything that he doesn't even have to. "
He's arrogant. Also a sociopath. I like the way he flew out to hurricane damaged areas and made it all about himself. Someone had to remind him to show empathy for the people hurt which he did in a subsequent speech.

Every time I see/hear/read about "President Trump" I have to remind myself that I'm not in a bizarre alternate reality.

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[–] [email protected] (5926) 7 years ago

Arrogant and a sociopath describes Hillary too, sheesh! As long as Donald Trump kept that egomaniacal lying sack of crap in a pantsuit OUT of the White House along with her perv "husband", he's a hero in my book.

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[–] ElectricEye (3) 7 years ago

You have an incredibly low bar for heroism. Hope you don't get raped by a fellow pussy-grabber fan.

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[–] [email protected] (5926) 7 years ago

(raped by a "pussy grabber? No, don't expect to ever meet Bill Clinton, LOL) heroism... Whatever...anyone who admires Obama and/or Hillary for ANY reason at all, has an incredibly low bar for truth, ethics, brains, honesty, decency...etc.

For me, all of Washington is a pile of loathsome self serving crap artists. My life doesn't change depending on whatever bullsh#@ artists are in office.

I derive my great joy from a Trump presidency because it drives the loony, leftist, wacko, holier than thou,snowflake, abortion lovin', let's keep illegals in the country,same sex "marriage" crowd absolutely batsh#t crazy!!!!

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

So instead of supporting a candidate who would actually do good for the country and yourself, you'd prefer to support an incompetent who will do damage?

You sound like someone who isn't happy in life and wants others to be as miserable as you are. The reality is Trump's presidency will do more damage to his own base. I heard many Republicans crying about losing their ACA at those townhall meetings. What type of common sense do you have when you believe it's OK for multi-millionaires and billionaires to take money away for the working class?

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[–] [email protected] (5926) 7 years ago

So... WHO is "a candidate who would actually do good for the country"???? Show me that person and I'll vote for him or her. If you mean Hillary, LOL LOL, seriously? I would not vote for that lying, sociopath, out for herself, selling out our country for millions, pathetic ,evil barf bag, with a gun pointed to my head!

No, I aint always "happy in life", but unlike crybaby whiny a@@ lefties, I know my problems are MY own fault and I DO NOT expect the government to fix my life! DUH!

... "Millionaires and billionaires to take money from the working class..."??? Duh, now I KNOW you're just parroting stupid talking points . I've read your comments before and you don't strike me as THAT stupid! Why in hell would a billionaire want a working class person's money? Please take a moment, step outside the stupid leftist "thinking" circle and realize how dumb that sounds!

I have never "cried" about losing any government help and/or benefits. I don't get ANY. I also don't vote for the lying clowns in Washington who "promise" me anything either.

I will reiterate , one of my pleasures in life is watching the screechy left, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, the major network flunkies, the idiots on The View, the "Young Turks", overpaid preachy Hollywood a-holes, etc., go crazy and cry like babies. Doesn't cost me a dime and I so enjoy their misery. What a bunch of BIG FAT phonies. They STILL make their millions, they still can employ their illegal nannies and gardeners for a song, they still live behind their gated communities with armed guards ( while p#ssing on the 2nd Ammendment). They can still be the world's biggest phonies acting as if they really "care" about the little people.

It's a bit of schadenfreude, but I SO enjoy their misery! Life affords us so few free pleasures. I am just loving the lefty meltdown.

And I still believe Trump is way better than that lying sack of crap in a pantsuit!

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[–] therefdotcom (964) 7 years ago

considering he supports the klan, trump is the perfect candidate for you.

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

"I also don't vote for the lying clowns in Washington who "promise" me anything either."
It doesn't sound like you voted at all.

Why wouldn't you vote for the person based on what they've done in the past politically, professionally and personally and their present views on different positions? Grow up because you're not going to get a Christ-like perfect candidate. People have flaws. But, you can still make an educated choice. If you don't like the political system itself, then instead of whining, become active and try to change it.

You criticize people on the Left, but those same people were unhappy with the system in the 50s and 60s and changed it. That's doing plenty more than just crying/whining or giving up like you appear to be doing.

"I have never "cried" about losing any government help and/or benefits."
You are aware that "government" anything is really derived from the American taxpayer, right? We pay plenty in taxes so we deserve to see it in the form of services and other compensation.

"Why in hell would a billionaire want a working class person's money?"
You don't know basic economics nor history and have short term memory. Remember 2007-2008 foreclosure collapse because of banks' securitization (aka: gambling) of mortgages? Working-class lost their homes and the working/middle-class paid the banks billions of dollars(TARP). Remember the stock market collapse of 2000 and 2008? Middle-class lost billions. It didn't disappear. It was transferred to the institutional investors (millionaires and billionaires). Rich real estate interest receives millions from the middle-class to build luxury homes. You're paying Trump's legal bills and Maralago mortgage with your taxes. The rich get their money from the masses. Republicans want to get rid of ACA to give the money to the rich.

Enjoying the misery of others makes you a sociopath and/or sadist. Why wouldn't you care if someone with stage 4 cancer dies without ACA? Misery's not a great place to stay long

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

pjpurple:

In other words, you hate liberals and Dems so damn much, you don't care how ignorant,backwards,screwed-up, dumb-as-hell or stupid a Republican president (trumpf) is, as long as there's no Democrats in the White House. You just showed that you really don't give a damn about our country, or who drags it down---and also showed what an idiot you are. trumpf dosen't give a damn about you, our country, or anyone else. He had no problem throwing our country under the bus for his own selfish purposes. And our lives nay not change according to what goes on Washington, but the laws they pass there do affect us a heck of a lot. I'm sure a lot of people never thought it would until trumpf just haphazardly threw that stupid ban that didn't even work out there, which kept even American citizens from getting back into the country. Everything dosen't revolve around you or whatever the hell you think,though. So you actually love the fact that the 1% have taken over, and that they're gonna do anything in their power to make everything better for only themselves, and the hell with the rest of us? And why the hell are you whining about abortion, which has been legal for over 40 years now--get the hell over it. It's you damn right wingers who also think you're so holier than thou---and yet you're the ones who keep getting busted with your undercover gay lovers, cheat on your spouses while claiming to be Christians, and laying in bed with the evangelicals promising them this and that. And same-sex marriage is legal, so get over that too. Unless you're gay and want to get married, or going to get an abortion, what the hell do you care?

And BTW,Obama deported way more illegal immigrants than any other president before him---look it up. He just didn't brag about it every time he turned around,that's all. I mean, trumpf's ass brags all the time, yet he hasn't done the work to even back up the bull**** he's always talking. Obama had a hell of a lot more class, honestly and decency

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

than trumpf, and you know it. trumpf dosen't have any of that, but yet you don't give a damn if he does. That just shows how disengenuous you trumpf lovers are when it comes to him---you'll give him a damn pass on any stupid-a** thing he does, but God forbid anyone call him on that, or point out that his even being where he is now is the best example of white privilege and how it works today.

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

"Arrogant and a sociopath describes Hillary too"

Actually it doesn't. And Hillary was qualified for the job.

Your preference for a white supremacist, lying, unqualified, stupid, womanizing sociopath, crooked, thieving, megalomaniac, manipulative, pro-Russian traitor Trump instead of Hillary isn't rational. You must be an ideologue.

Why does Trump have the RNC paying HIS legal fees? Seriously, You Trump supporters are such patsys!

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

Keelai:
Nah,trumpf supporters aren't ideologues (they wouldn't even know what the fck that means,lol)-----they're just fckg racist idiots who wanted a white man back in the WH, no matter much how much of an ignorant, racist,sexist, stupid, dumb,foolish and embarrassing piece of s*** he is, and how he makes America look like a idiot on the world stage. I mean, look at the stupid s*** he said before the U.N.---why his dumb a** even bothered to go, I don't even know why. The idiot was talking all this dumb s*** about the UN which showed that he hadn't the slightest damn clue what the hell the UN was even about. Apparently, he was still pissed off that his offer to build another building for the UN was turned down a couple of years ago---the reason he was dogging them the hell out until recently. I mean, all this idiot had to say was "I'm putting America first," and claiming he would mess up North Korea---no wonder the Korean delegation walked out on his bull**** speech. What a fckg idiot.

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[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 7 years ago

If Hillary was qualified then why did she lose twice?

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

She actually won by over 3,000,000 votes.

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[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 7 years ago

If she won then how come she is not President?

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

Because the American electoral system is stupid.

Trump's 2012 twitter quotes:
"The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy."

“The phoney electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser one!”

“He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!”

A better question to ask is why are you supporting someone too stupid to know how to spell "phony" and "won"?

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[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 7 years ago

So if Trump lost but got more votes you would still want him to be President?

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

The candidate with the most votes becomes president. aka: popular vote.

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[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 7 years ago

Then that means Al Gore and Trump would be President.

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

Presidents would be Andrew Jackson (not John Quincy Adams), Samuel Tilden, Benjamin Harrison, Al Gore, Hillary Clinton

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[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 7 years ago

And Trump.

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

Repeating a lie doesn't turn it into a fact.

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[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 7 years ago

Hypothetically if he got more votes then he would be President.

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

Hillary received 3,000,000 more votes so she should be president.

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[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 7 years ago

So if Trump lost but got more votes you would still want him to be President?

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

Thank you for demonstrating an example of willful ignorance.

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[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 7 years ago

The candidate with the most votes becomes president. aka: popular vote.

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[–] legnadibrom (6248) 7 years ago

3 million idiots need to be euthanized

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

So you're against open and free elections?

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[–] legnadibrom (6248) 7 years ago

there's need to be a basic competency screening to weed out these subhuman trashbins

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

"...to weed out these subhuman trashbins"

In other words only people you are not biased against should vote? It sounds like you're anti-democracy.

Why don't you believe in democracy and which form of alternate government would you prefer?

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[–] legnadibrom (6248) 7 years ago

democracy is dying because the population is rising amongst the undesirables and morally-bankrupt individuals running rampant thru the ghettos, barrios, and trailerparks of this country,
maybe require a mandatory competency test for all citizens to take at the age of 16 and if they don't pass, they will be recorded as "mentally incompetent," but will get another chance at the test in 2 years and if they fail again, they are never allowed to vote...or procreate

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

A deplorable complaining about "undesirables" and "morally-bankrupt individuals" is the pot calling the kettle black.

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[–] legnadibrom (6248) 7 years ago

i am a better person than you

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

Deplorables normally believe they are better than other people.

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[–] legnadibrom (6248) 7 years ago

i've compiled a foolproof exam to prove it, you couldn't cheat your way out of this one

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

Such exams are unconstitutional. But, I'm the curious type, so what would a sample question be?

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[–] legnadibrom (6248) 7 years ago

couple for you:

have you ever stolen anything?
what's the last thing you think about before going to sleep every nite (most of the time)?
would you rather help an old person into a building or knock them down and laugh?
do you eat oatmeal?

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

Mentally incompetent exam? A few of your questions appear to be about morality. I don't get the oatmeal question though. Is eating it considered a good thing or bad?

BTW, an intelligent person wouldn't answer truthfully. They would answer the way they believe the examiner wants them to in order to pass.

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[–] legnadibrom (6248) 7 years ago

some of the questions on the test unrelated to mental competency will be used to segregate certain individuals into a special waiting center to determine the best course for their future within society

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

Denial of right to vote, forced sterilization, concentration camps... It sounds like you want a tyranny.

What is the issue with oatmeal?

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[–] legnadibrom (6248) 7 years ago

oatmeal is an old world food,
you can tell a lot about a person by how they describe their relationship and interaction with the substance

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

legnadiborm:
You're an idiot, and stupid-a** troll on top of that. Go shove your head back in the dirt by your trailer park home,fool.

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[–] legnadibrom (6248) 7 years ago

are you mexican?

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[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 7 years ago

"Because the American electoral system is stupid."

whaaa?

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[–] [email protected] (5926) 7 years ago

Keelai- I'm sure you're not as clueless as the average Hildabeast supporter but.... Seriously you "Hillary supporters" are such easily duped morons! LOLOLOL
Qualified? Because she attached herself to a womanizing pig and rode his coattails to the White House?

Yeah, she was a REAL feminist. She needed a MAN to get her somewhere!

Qualified? My cats are more qualified to be President than that lying piece of crap in an oversized pantsuit! But you seem to admire her.

All I can say, all I should say is from Proverbs14:7. A priest, Father Majeski quoted it to Archie Bunker in an episode of All in the Family when Archie was talking his usual nonsense.

"Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest in him not the lips of knowledge."

Archie was confused so Father Majeskie explained, "Don't waste your time arguing with an idiot!"

Don't really think you're an idiot, but Hillary Clinton was banking on enough fools and idiots to get her into the White House. Qualified???? LOLOLOLOL Not qualified to be chief waste paper basket emptier in the White House!

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[–] Keelai (34982) 7 years ago

First of all, just because someone criticizes Trump doesn't automatically make them a supporter of a previous opponent.

She's accomplished plenty on her own unlike trump who had his daddy's help and is now leaning on and ruining his children's lives. Bet Junior goes to jail along with his daddy. They can share the same cell.

"She needed a MAN to get her somewhere!"
Then you know nothing about her. I'd like to see you try to get into Yale.

It just sounds like you hate women and you didn't want one in the White House. You'd prefer a moron like Trump then a qualified candidate who happened to be a woman. You are very insecure.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

pj:
Why the hell are you going on and on about Clinton? She's not president, but she was still more qualified than the idiot clown fool we have there now. Funny how you haven't mentioned the fact that trumpf is even less qualified than her, which is why he can't get anything done, because he dosen't know what to do,anyway. People who go on and on about Clinton are usually just trying to deflect from the fact that trumpf's far worse than she is---hell, he isn't even qualified to be dogcatcher and you know it, yet you haven't said jack about him---wonder why?

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[–] beavis (3249) 7 years ago

Being born on january 20th didnt help things : (

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[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 7 years ago

hey beavis hehehehehehe

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[–] [email protected] (690) 7 years ago

I want to thank you for posting this. Whenever I get involved in politics, I get so much hate thrown on me by the Wrong Wing, I just have to step away. This clown show of our current presidency is so disgraceful, and all these Mephistopheles who love to spread lies just to derail progress makes me disgusted. I'm no fan of HRC, but she'd have been a bright moment for our history compared to Trump's bellicose gibbering. I'm so disappointed in our country right now.

So - HATERS -- bring on the hate. Call me names and don't talk policy. Just attack Progress.

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[–] legnadibrom (6248) 7 years ago

blacks are starting to behave themselves in public these days...makes you think

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[–] [email protected] (690) 7 years ago

I've met a lot of guys, Black, White and whatever, who said they would step into a fight in my stead.
I love those guys. I am humble with their magnanimous gesture, And they enjoy the fight, haha.

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[–] legnadibrom (6248) 7 years ago

are you a cripple or something?

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