How many artists on Spotify you think use the n-word?
Gotta be dozens of songs, no?
shareWhat is your point? Because you sound like some white person pissed off because you can't do a Rogan...
shareJesus H. Christ, everything is "rACiSm!" with you nutjobs. You truly have no other card to play. You just go right to it. It's your blind spot.
shareAgain, what is your point? It is a simple question.
shareWhy can it be used in music but not in a podcast? That is the OP's point
shareNo, I think it is another whine of a white person claiming " if they can use it, why can' t I." Sadly, if people can't understand it comes down to who is using the word and in what context it is being used, then I doubt they will figure out the larger picture and what it means to just casually toss it around - especially for a white person.
shareFunny that the montage of Joe Rogan everyone is so mad about shows no context at all huh
shareAre you for real? What it shows is a white male throwing around the word left and right in a flippant way and as if he is entitled to do so. And it may have been much different if it had just been once or twice and while discussing some legitimate topic with sincere guests.
And just wait....I bet all the times he said the female C-word is next....(if he has).
How much do you think this guy has talked on his podcast? We're talking thousands of hours worth of him talking. He is a comedian and that world's way of speech is a lot different than normal people's. Secondly, he's had plenty of "sincere guests" and "legitimate topics" that would cover the use of the word.
shareSo you are saying certain words cannot be spoken at all. Why?
What if your doing a study on them, debating there use.
He didn't call anyone n****r or a cunt (yes they are words in the english dictionary and so can be used) they were discussing the word itself and it's use. Nothing wrong with that and certainly isn't racist in any way shape or form. Not that you will agree of course.
What I was suggesting was that context and who is uttering the word do matter. A couple of white guys sitting around blabbering about whatever and feeling it is okay for them to throw the word around any way they see fit probably doesn't meet the context part.
What I think this comes down to white hubris - where white people feel they can say anything they want without any sort of repercussion, with a failure to fully understand the unique power of this word.
I do not get what white people do not get about the complexity of this word, nor appreciate the full meaning of the word and how broad that is. And I think one reason for that is that white people don't have a word like that about themselves with the same power and reaction.
A couple of white guys sitting around blabbering about whatever and feeling it is okay for them to throw the word around any way they see fit probably doesn't meet the context part.
Why not. If the word is being discussed why can they not say it. It is only a word. Are you also suggesting that other groups who are not white can say it freely, seems and odd stance to have.
What I think this comes down to white hubris - where white people feel they can say anything they want without any sort of repercussion, with a failure to fully understand the unique power of this word.
Your opinion and gladly not held by most. The word was being discussed, no one was being called a slur. So again you are saying that they cannot even say it when it is being discussed.
I do not get what white people
What do you have against someone with white skin. Are you racist or predjudice against someone with white skin. White people. Again you like making assumptions, are you sugegsting a white person in slavic eastern europe is the same as someone in the nordic sector. What nonsense.
And I think one reason for that is that white people don't have a word like that about themselves with the same power and reaction.
There are plenty of words that white people get called, only difference is from the idiot left have commandeered what the new racism term is and not what it actually is. Let me guess you believe only white people can be racist. Anyone can be racist. You refer to me by skin colour and not by who I am then you are racist, no different. Also racism can be a lot more than just skin colour but Americans are so binary they think it is only about skin colour. See Whoopi Goldberg for a prime example.
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I'm about done with any sort of debate with you because you are practicing the infantile method of trying to "win" an argument by insults and wild conjectures rather than discussing a topic.
If you want to ask me something, then ask it - don't try to make the point with a slur or some sort of statement that has the main purpose only to inflame.
From what you have written, I seriously doubt there is anything I can type to encourage you to look at this topic outside of white eyes.
Now, if you want to continue, ask the appropriate question without the diatribes. That is what mature and courteous adults do.
As for racism, I believe ANY person can be racist - not just people with white skin. Secondly, of words in language, I can't think of any other word with the all-around power of the word that is up for discussion. Not one. The only one I think that comes close is that of the female C word. Now is it not interesting why there is not such a word for whites and especially white males? Have you ever asked yourself why that is?
Next, two white males sitting around discussing a word such as this while boozing it up and getting high is probably not the best environment. And not only that, to toss the word around so casually.
Then, you have Rogan's "Planet of the Apes" 'joke.'
Here is a very short (five minutes) clip from Youtube of Te-Nehisi Coates discussing why every word does not belong to everyone. It is a very insightful piece on language and words. I doubt you will watch it, but it is very compelling....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO15S3WC9pg
"win" an argument by insults
Quote me where I have insulted you.
ask the appropriate question
I'm responding to you, I have no questions to ask. Do you not know how debates work.
Next, two white males sitting around discussing a word such as this while boozing it up and getting high is probably not the best environment
Your opinion only
Te-Nehisi Coates
Why would I want to watch a white hating racist. That doesn't prove anything that just shows racists come in all colours. share
Well, that is it - I'm done with you. Your last reply clearly shows you are not responsive to trying to see something from the eyes of another.
No, you are not debating - you are "debasing" by use of inflammatory and ignorant comments meant to only incite.
you are "debasing" by use of inflammatory and ignorant comments meant to only incite.
So far then I am being insulting, inflammatory, ignorant and to incite.
Quote me where I have done any of these.
I'll wait. share
Joe was using it in context of the topic. For instance he was in one instance discussing a Richard Pryor album name and how it was even possible. He said the album name. See? Context means everything. Joe himself even said that he realized many years ago that even when used in context and not with hate, it was still not cool to use the word. He stopped a long time ago and never used the word toward anyone.
It should be obvious to everyone given the timing what this is all about. The removal of any context in the video is a HUGE clue too.
You're the one who doesn's understand. No such thing as rules for one group that don't apply to everyone. That's called RACISM!
sharenot true.
thats more than an "oversimplification" thats a deliberate unwillingness to see the facts to further your white agenda.
the N word is just one example:
White people can no longer use the word n*****r , black people can if they want .
That is the accepted wisdom by all except the far right KKK types.
"That is the accepted wisdom by all except the far right KKK types."
Do you hear yourself?
Only intellectual morons say "accepted wisdom".
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