Eowyn or Arwen?


My friends and I were having a debate today whether Eowyn or Arwen is better. I said Arwen, just 'cause I'm a suck-up Elf-lover, and because personally I'm not a big fan of Miranda Otto. (Don't get mad at me if you like her, it's my problem, not yours!) Anyways, what would you say? You'll have to have seen/read Lord of the Rings to understand what I'm talking about, by the way - so plz tell me who you think is better!

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Personally I'd have to say Eowyn simply because in the books she killed the lord of the Nazgul and Arwen didn't do a damn thing.

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Defently Eowyn.Liked her ever scince the books.

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~Galadriel~

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Eowyn,because she's cool.

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I've never read the book(s), though I think I am going to try to get a copy to dive in deeper to this fascinating Tolkien world. But for whom I like, I think both Arwen and Eowyn are both exquisitely lovely ladies in their own right. Miranda Otto and Liv Tyler are both good in the films. As well as Cate Blanchett too. And this is coming from someone who has just gotten to know about this story. :)

Question: In the book, does Arwen and Aragorn ever end up together?
Second question: How many books are there to the
series?

Thanks in advance.

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SPOILER! DON'T READ IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE ENDING!!!!




First, I just wanna say that in the book, Aragorn never liked Eowyn in a romantic way, he was even uncomfortable when Eowyn paid him attention. He just pities Eowyn because he understands Eowyn's peril, but she was never in the equation of whether he should choose Eowyn or Arwen, because his choice was already made, years ago. Do you honestly think that after more than 60 years of loving Arwen and only Arwen, Aragorn would suddenly romantically like a woman of level below Arwen and Aragorn who he met along the way of fulfilling his destiny? Tolkien's character is much more noble than that.

Secondly, I just want to say that it's kinda silly to just look at the physical aspects of doing things, like Eowyn going to war is such a big deal. There are so many other aspects of which sacrifices can be done, like what Arwen did. When Aragorn first laid eyes on her about 60 years before the War, he fell in love with her straightaway, but she knew that he was much younger, and below her level. But even then she still accepted his love and returned it, even though she didn't know for sure whether in the end Aragorn will be made King and whether they could be together or not. It is a huge sacrifice for her to not go to the Grey Havens, to not follow her family and kins and to stay in Middle-Earth when the time of Elves had passed and the time of Men has arrived.

To answer your question, Aragorn and Arwen does end up together in the book, and she readily accept her role as the Queen of Aragorn's people, as in Men, and not hers. You would have seen in the movie TTT, where there's a scene of Aragorn's death, and of Arwen who still stays, but in the end she will die of grief. The full story is in the appendices of LOTR, and I think what made me appreciate Arwen was the fact that her character is tragic. She found happiness with Aragorn, but then she had to accept mortality and she dies without the happiness.

Eowyn had to go through a lot, but she never had to make this kind of sacrifices, except when she lost Theoden but in the end she found happiness with Faramir. She accepted that her life was not in battling wars and that was it. That's why I found the potrayal of Eowyn in the movie disturbing, because she doesn't seem like someone in huge peril. In the book, when Rohan army goes to Helm's Deep, she stays like she always does and that's what makes her going out to war in ROTK so profound, it's like the final straw. And I like the fact that she was able to really smile and be happy when she meets Faramir, not when Gimli tells some stupid joke like in the movie. Because of the love triangle in the movie, people are gonna think that she fights because of Aragorn, not because of her desperation to contribute to her country.

For your second question, there are actually 6 parts to LOTR, but was divided to 3 parts, a trilogy when it was released. However, now there are many versions where all 3 books are released as 1.

I've wrote a lot, so that's all, reply if u want.

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Well, they're both good in their own ways. Eowyn is pretty great because... She fights even though she's not supposed to, and she's willing to die for her people. I really liked the part where the Witch King said, "No man can kill me," and she takes off her helmet and says, "I am no man," and sticks her sword through his skull. That was a really memorable moment. She's brave, she's helpful, she's kind, and she's easily interested, but yet still wise in her own sort of way.

But then Arwen is a really hopeful, still important character. It's hard to explain exactly why I like her, but I mean, she's a princess, she can fight (and no one's stopping her), she makes her own choices regardless of what her own father tells her about why she shouldn't make the ones she does, and then there's just some other charm to her that's hard to explain. It's kind of like when you read a book and there's a character you really like, but you don't know exactly why. I think Arwen is better.

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Actually, the book refers to Aragorn finding Eowyn "fair" among other things, meaning that he may have grown to have feelings for her were it not for the fact that he was already in love with Arwen. His discomfort with her affections was particularly because he did like her, but like her as he might, he was already in love with someone else.

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