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If it quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck....


Than it's a duck.

The Chandler's walked like extortionists and talked like extortionists.

Jordan Chandler's father claims to have dosed with with Sodium Amytal, a supposed 'truth serum' of which there's no scientific evidence to back it, and more to claim it creates false memories in the brain. The father, a dentists for Hollywood celebrities with an explicable solo screenwriting credit pointing to obvious dreams of stardom, than leaves a video taped recording excited about how much money he's going to steal from MJ, two days before Chandler even confessed. They go to CIVIL TRIAL and even refuse the defendant's request to have it postponed after an upcoming criminal one. Than, when the grand jury looks at the evidence (including I assume the so called smoking gun penis drawing) and isn't convinced enough to indite him, they leave it to Jordan Chandler as the last hope for a criminal trial to happen. He says, "it's okay" after accepting the money from the civil suit. Than, ripe into adult-hood with a fully developed moral compass, he refuses to testify against Michael in a criminal trial and flees the country.

Now please. Tell me what kind of mental gymnastics it takes to tell me that's not an extortionist.

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Is there a chance he will do it again?

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Wait, wasn't it you who responded to an "If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck" thread with this:

"Well if the Earth looks flat, and it feels flat, than it must be flat. Oh wait uh...Well if it looks like water and it smells like water, than it can't be vodka. Oh no uhh. If air looks empty and it smells empty, than obviously the science agree...well maybe not. Actually let's put our ego aside and stop putting faith in our limited senses. Alright? K? Cool."

https://moviechat.org/nm0001391/Michael-Jackson/5cc4f24d20efa604d42a401e/If-it-Quacks-Like-a-Duck

I thought so 😉

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Not to state the obvious, but you need to learn the difference between "than" and "then".

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Now, in response to you, there's quite a lot of misinformation in your post.

1. Evan Chandler never claimed to use sodium Amytal on Jordan, and his anesthesiologist, who was the only other person there, also denied it. It's a difficult drug to get ahold of, requiring a request from the DEA, and none was found. No blackmarket market for it either, so probably it wasn't used. He was removing one of Jordan's baby teeth. Jordan was 13 at the time, late to still have baby teeth and they can pose problems at that age. Anyway, he did use some sort of sedative and asked Jorden only one question then: Did MJ ever touch his penis? Jordan answered, reluctantly, yes, only after exacting a promise from his father than he wouldn't tell anyone.

2. He didn't say he was going to steal from MJ. He was p!ssed off because he'd come to believe MJ had molested his son. There's no video tape. There is a voice recording between his ex-wife's estranged husband and Evan Chandler, recorded surreptitiously for god knows what reason. There's a transcript of it, which I've read, not just the spliced together bits.

3. EC's lawyer refused the postponement for a few reasons. One is because MJ would be forced to testify in the civil trial, and be cross-examined, but could not be in a criminal trial. Two because the standard of proof is lower in a civil trial than in a criminal trial. If they won the civil trial it made a conviction in the criminal trial easier. It also forced MJ's lawyers to tip their hand as to their defense, giving another advantage to Chandler and his lawyer.

4. The two grand juries were formed solely as investigative bodies. Their purpose was never to indict, and they were never asked to.

5. Jordan never said "It's okay." He refused to testify because he and his family had become targets of MJ fanatics issuing death threats to their home, and the press who hounded them relentlessly. He had to hole up in the house, stopped going to school, became a recluse (cont'd)

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His life had been stolen from him. He'd had enough. Why would he want to step back into all of that? It might not have been the bravest thing to do, but it was certainly understandable. He's still having to live in incognito, and that's *without* testifying in the 2005 criminal trial.

6. Extortion is a crime. Although MJ and his lawyers had no trouble accusing Chandler of extortion in the press, they only filed charges after it was pointed out that they'd filed no extortion charges against him 🤔. Then it was investigated for OVER FIVE MONTHS, so it was hardly just a formality. The outcome was no extortion had occurred.

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