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The only one who should be in jail is Judge Rittenband


Too bad he is deceased to face punishment for his illegal mishandling of the case.

He didn't give one iota about the victim Samantha Geimer. He just wanted to use the case to further his career and use it as his own personal showbiz show. He didn't respect the rule of law, ignoring the repeated reccommendation of probation, and time already served.

As for Polanski, what he did wasn't right, but no violence was used, and the girl was two weeks shy of her fourteen birthday, plus she had had sexual activity with men before she met Polanski. Her mother basically offered her to Polanski. Polanski took it too far. That's it. He should have gotten a slap on the wrist, and that's it. But for the Judge to pervert the course of justice for his own gain was illegal!

Polanski was right to flee.

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I have a daughter that's 'almost' 14. You have no dang idea what you're talking about. They are still children at that age (not even in high school) and he drugged and raped her. He should have been sent to pound-you-prison. Slap on the wrist.. I hope you're just trolling because otherwise you're seriously delusional.

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Parents who think that their offspring are still small children at the age of 13/14 should clean their glasses. 🥸​
Btw. age of consent here is 14.

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14?
Not here in America.
Polanski, a wealthy and very famous adult millionaire took sexual advantage of a very
young girl. The disgusting bastard even drugged the kid!
The vile coward fled to Europe to avoid prosecution.
He's got a nice little Chalet in Sweden or one of those other pussy European countries that won't extradite him and he better stay there!
We got plenty of prison roommates for him, he likes bothering with little girls so much, he'll find out.

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Do you know Polanski's case 1977 ff?
If the "kid" was "drugged" never had been proven...alc yes.
Please, never visit us "pussy European countries". ☻

As a result of the plea bargain, Polanski pleaded guilty to the charge of "unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor" and was ordered to undergo 90 days of psychiatric evaluation at California Institution for Men...his penalty to be time served (the time he had already served in jail) along with probation. However, he learned afterward that the judge, Laurence J. Rittenband, had told some friends that he was going to disregard the plea bargain and sentence Polanski to 50 years in prison:
"I'll see this man never gets out of jail", he told Polanski's friend, screenwriter Howard E. Koch. Gailey's attorney confirmed the judge changed his mind after he met the judge in his chambers:

"He was going to sentence Polanski, rather than to time served, to fifty years. What the judge did was outrageous. We had agreed to a plea bargain and the judge had approved it."

Polanski was told by his attorney that "the judge could no longer be trusted" and that the judge's representations were "worthless"...On 31 January 1978, the day before sentencing, Polanski left the country on a flight to London, where he had a home. One day later, he left for France. As a French citizen, he has been protected from extradition and has lived mostly in France since then.
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On 26 September 2009, Polanski was arrested while in Switzerland at the request of United States authorities.
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Polanski was jailed near Zürich for two months, then put under house arrest at his home in Gstaad while awaiting the results of his extradition appeals.
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2011, Geimer blamed the media, reporters, the court, and the judge for having caused "way more damage to me and my family than anything Roman Polanski has ever done", and opined that the judge was using her and Polanski for the media exposure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski#Sexual_abuse_case

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So..?
The guy fucked a little kid.

Get your shit together. Don't drug and screw little kids.

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That "little kid" was almost 14 years old and her US-mother was happy to bring her to that party.

Stop your self-righteous witch hunt and never come to Europe.
A "pussy European" may not like your arrogant American attitude. 🤢​

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“That "little kid" was almost 14 years old”

Still underage though, even in your country, right?

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Look above...age of consent here is 14.
And get your parrot Lala out of here, Andy-wannabe-King. 🦜​

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Almost 14, is not 14 - just saying 🤷‍♂️

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Blabla, parrot. 🦜

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One cannot argue with the facts.

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It doesn't make any sense to discuss with a parrot king. 🦜

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Ok, not going to argue, but the facts remain: -
1. The age of consent in America is 18
2. The age of consent in your country is 14.
3. She was 13.

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1. The age of consent differs in various US-states.
2. I've already said that before you jumped in.
3. She was almost 14.

Do you feel better now, parrot king? 🦜

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She was 13.

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And you repeat yourself. 🦜

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That’s because that facts state that it was an illegal act.

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Tell us something new, parrot-king. 🦜

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We have therefore concluded that it was an illegal act.

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Nothing new.
And you only continue your Lala cause you need attention. 🦜
Oh, and perhaps some more for your post statistic. 🥱​

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In which case I wish you Gute Nacht.

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Guten Tag! ☀️​
It's high noon here. ☺

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I’m in Vietnam, so +7 hours.

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Congrats. 🇻🇳​
Maybe you can get your piece of cake there. 🦜

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So why is Polanski still being hassled? As I see the judge (as I presumed) that was threatening 50 years is a goner.

Ok I see in fact Geimer was the victim. Appears she no longer cares. So why hassle the guy?

I checked it again, the original punishment seems fair to me. I can see Rittenband reconsidering so he could get some press and make a name for himself.

I can't see hassling Polanski now. This makes no sense to me and I'm curious as to whom is behind it.

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Polanski didn't attend his final court hearing in the US (50 years in prison possible, despite plea bargain),
He fled to the UK and then on to France. Therefore is still a US arrest warrant for him... now for 46 years!

Much more details to the story. Unlike some vengeful Shogies here, I've read the interview with the girl (file).
She had sex and got alcohol, yes, but was neither drugged nor sodomized. The questions they asked her were suggestive...to say the least. ☻

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Oh for God's sake. ENough is enough. It's 46 years ago - the victim no longer cares. Let it go.

Ok, hey thanks for the mini education today TimeTunnel. I didnt know the case when I first opened my mouth. My view now is I understand why Polanski split and I think time's up on the crime.

It's too bad he can't come back here to the US. We could use some good filmmakers. Polanski has done some outstanding work. "The Pianist" being an all time fave of mine.

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Well, Polanski is now 90 years old. He probably no longer longs to return to the US.

"The Pianist" is a great movie and very, very sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed2ZtwCDvvw

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Outstanding, if memory serves, this is what The Pianist played to the Nazi officer while hiding in the abandoned home.

Yep, great flick. One of my faves.

Yeah, if I was 90 I wouldn't bother either. If by fate Polanski had stuck around, he'd have ended up one of our greats - like Spielberg, Scorcese, Coppola, Kubrick, etc.

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I looked it up what the pianist played. *ähem*
Actually, I wanted to tell at once that "Dance of the Vampires" is my favourite Polanski movie.
But that might be misunderstandable in context of the pianist in the Warsaw Ghetto. 😳​

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You know, it crossed my mind this morning. One of my fave actresses is from your neck of the woods - Julia Jentsch. I was sure she would be the one that would cross over and become big here. It ended up being Diane Kruger. Kruger's fine, but, just my taste, I like Julia better. "Dance of the Vampires" - I've never seen it. For what I am aware of, RE: Polanski - "The Pianist" is #1. "Chinatown" would be #2. ANyway, back to Julia - is she big in Europe? SHe has remained unknown here.

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We got a real clown here!

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Unlike you I know Polanski's case and the laws.
You only want burning pyres. ☻

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I'm well aware of Polanski's case.
He was a one time fine film maker that drugged and raped a little child and fled to Europe where they can't string up a bastard if you gave them a rope and instructions, like a goddam coward.

That sound about right to you jackass?

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Read (above)...if you're able to read, arrogant Ami. 🤘🏽​
https://moviechat.org/nm0000591/Roman-Polanski/5f4572274be2591e0ac3feeb/The-only-one-who-should-be-in-jail-is-Judge-Rittenband?reply=658bf283287ac02f71fc3267

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So your'e just going to lazily repost your dumb posts defending a guy that raped a little kid?

I hope someone punches your face real hard tomorrow.

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Now that was a really 'punching' argument, shogi-mouse. 🐀​

Tomorrow, tomorrow and not today is what all lazy people say.

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Sure lit a fire under you tonight, hope it's hot enough.

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Do you need a bed warmer? 🔥​
I don't. ☺

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No, I'm usually fairly cozy.
Also, go fuck yourself.

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Yah, you just showed how "cozy" you are. 🤣​

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Nothing you say makes sense.

You're quite a waste of time and a fool.

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You don't understand or don't want to understand what I said.
And obviously you've run out of insults. ☺

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Nah, I have plenty more insults for you.

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Go ahead...doesn't change anything, shogi-mouse. 🐀​

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Shogi-mouse, hahaahahahahahaha

Good one TimeTunnel - you made me laugh today!

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I think Timetunnel is saying 14 is not a "child" and 13 is skimming the edge of not being a child. Which I suppose is somewhat debatable. Most people have actually finished puberty by the time they're 14. But emotionally, you still have a lot of growing up to do at 14.

I was still very immature at that age but physically, I was quite ready to do sexual things. lol...

Geimer had done a lot of sexual things at 13. Which I really don't care that much about what kind of sexual things people do. As long as no one is being forced to do it, I couldn't care less.

I certainly don't want to see 40 year olds sleeping with 13 year olds but in the grand scheme of things, I guess I wouldn't lose that much sleep over it.

Heck, Mary Kay Letourneau slept with a 12 year old and she was treated pretty good by the media and did interviews and whatnot. Several teachers that have slept with students have done interviews and have almost become like celebrities from it. haha...

But whatever, Polanski should have known better, but then again, Giemer's mother should have used better judgement as well. You don't leave your teen daughter alone with a grown man to pose for pictures. Not sure what she was thinking..

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"Several teachers that have slept with students have done interviews and have almost become like celebrities from it."

That's forbidden here and as far as I know in the USA too.
An 'illicit sexual relation with a dependant' (student) will be punished with dismissal and/or sanctions. It doesn't matter whether the teacher is male or female and how old the student is. Age is only taken into account when determining the sentence.

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It's illegal here in the states too but every other month there's a high profile case in the news about some teacher sleeping with a student. haha..

When the teacher is good looking it seems to get plenty of attention.

And I'm sure you probably mentioned this, but what country are you in?

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Bio-Germany. 🌱​

Yah, it happens here too (teacher-student). If possible, I would send all those teachers to Helgoland counting seagulls. ☻

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Yeah, teachers really shouldn't do that, it's supposed to be an a-sexual relationship. But we do have a small percentage of men in the US that act like they wish they had a teacher like that when they were young.

I guess it doesn't freak me out as much as priests doing it with little boys. That is really messed up. And yes, we've had problems with this in the US too.

Overall, I'm quite liberal when it comes to sexuality, I just don't care that much but something about clergy doing it with the underage really bothers me.

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Unfortunately sexual abuse occurs wherever there are groups of people (families, schools, sports clubs, churches, scouts, etc.).

What bothered me about the discussions in recent years was, that almost exclusively abuse in churches was complained about. This distracts from the problem in other areas...dangerous.

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'Almost 14'... what the actual fuck is wrong with you ???

Was the child begging to be sexually assaulted you freak?

Piss off weirdo.

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Stay in your Ami country, Shogi-mouse. 🐀​
Just some well-intentioned advice.

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That makes NO sense, what does 'Ami country' mean?

Please respond with something sensible, you seem like a fool but I am pretty patient.

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What does "Amigo" mean? 🙄​
https://moviechat.org/nm0000591/Roman-Polanski/625c8cf2a1249224c2d82e43/Complete-list-of-sick-fcks-who-signed-petition-in-support-of-Polanski?reply=658bf65e287ac02f71fc3280

You're neither "patient" nor "pretty" nor do you know yourself.

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Do you defend a lot of kid rapers or is Polanski your favorite child diddler you freak?

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Are stupid insults the only thing you got, Shogi-mouse? 🐀​

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You can't answer an honest question.
You really are filth.

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Hahahaha...your tantrum subsides. ☺
You won't survive a European fight. 🇪🇺​

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Fool.

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Arroganter Ami. 😜​

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Still not hitting...you think you are too clever by half.

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You still want to hit me? ☺
Warm up so that you can withstand the echo.

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wow, you are running out of gas, that was lame.

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Not at all, shogi-mouse. 🐀​
And it's a poor move to just use what I already said (your tantrum subsides).

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The whole thing was inverted by the lynch mob public who care about man-made laws, and not the laws of nature. That kind of mentality is driven by feelings and not the higher intelligence anyway, it's still lost in the old black and white perspective that supports more government, more corruption, more rules and control by the few over the many, who feel justified because they do it for justice while hypocritically completely dismissing it, because they want what they want, and fuck all else, it reminds me of the whole thing with Trump, people driven by the tunnel vision and their feelings without seeing the bigger picture when it comes to justice and truth. The true freedom is also scary, it is scary to go in the wild jungle and respect its own rules. And yes in the laws of nature it is natural for old men to have sex with young girls of age 13 or 14, if that's what happened, it's the society who controls that nature and individual molecular development, because my child is like your child, I am like you, etc, so everyone would do the same, follow the same rules, because true freedom is scary, right, it needs to be controlled. For most people it's probably too complex to even understand what Im saying, what it implies philosophically and how it relates to this. People want to play Gods, that's why you got governments, who want to rule over others, because of the belief deep down that everyone has to be the same, and not seeing how truly unique we really are, if we start following our own intuitive voice, and not the herd mentality.

Polanski was a sacrificed lamb anyway, no different from Sharon, just in a different way, both of them part of the cult, public got the small fish, while missing the real ones hiding in plain sight.

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Please stay away from children.

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Huh? I am a child myself. Maybe children need to stay away from you? Or those who stay in their freedom to be who they are, not to mention judgmental people.

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ya this person is fucking disgusting.

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So if the female says no, it was not rape but "laws of nature"?

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How's that even implied in my post? When it actually describes the exact opposite. If a woman says no then it is not a law of nature, but ego, the ultimate separation from nature itself, the nature can't be violated, but respected as it wants to be, which for centuries humans didn't when it came to women or children, but in general the whole mankind itself anyway.

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You are just another evil apologist who can't say "child rape" and instead substitutes stuff like " sex with young girls" instead.

Explain why child rape should not be punished by keeping the rapist locked away to prevent them from raping again.

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You are an idiot.

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So if a judge misbehaves, then the child rapist should get off with a slap on the wrist?" Where is the justice in that?

According to the victim, Polanski drugged and raped her. She said no, he didn't care. Polanski admitted to the rape.

Polanski's defense as he noted in his biography was that "everyone like to f**k young girls".

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You're just another loser who is afraid to say the word rape. You and thousands of other Polanski supporters use weasel words like "what he did wasn't right" or "took it too far" and then excuse it with "no violence used" and "she wasn't a virgin.

If you controlled the media, then no one would ever know that this young girl was forcibly raped after she was drugged.

Just because anyone else did something illegal after the fact does not mean Polanski is a SOB rapist.

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this guy is fucked up. I hope whoever he is on a watchlist. the amount of justifying he will do to say rape is okay makes me think he personally believes its okay as long as he can justify it to himself the same way he does for Polanski

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you should be on a watchlist

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Yup. But the dumb people are a big part of the silent majority these days.

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