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Did Bale waste his time on the Batman movies?


It's not one of his liked roles at all despised the critical acclaim of the Nolan films. Some would argue they're his worst performances. He was decent in Begins but something went seriously wrong with the sequel performances. I don't know if he and Nolan and the writers had major disagreements over how Batman should be portrayed or something...

Bale is only a good Batman to some people by association with Nolan than anything else. He's usually a really good actor but I think Batman will be his biggest regret. He completely missed the mark in the sequels when he should've been on his A game. I think he's the reason why the The Dark Knight in particular wasn't nominated for Best Picture.

Michael Keaton has a lot of goodwill as Batman even though he's not quite as good an actor as Bale overall. I think it looked even worse on Bale when editorials came out declaring Ben Affleck as a better live action Batman even though Affleck had the disadvantage of being in one of the worst movies of the year. That is seriously damning.

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Okay, that's your opinion.

So you didn't care for Bale's Batman, fine. You'll always find people who agree with you, and you'll always find people who disagree with you.

Of course he didn't waste his time doing that trilogy. The very idea is ridiculous. And I can't even imagine why he'd regret having done it.

TDK wasn't nominated for BP because of genre bias - that's the common view on it, plus times were different in that it was only 5 movies then. And TDK's exclusion was a big reason the category was extended.

Yes, Keaton has a lot of goodwill as Batman. So does Bale. And Adam West. And some people prefer Affleck. Nothing surprising in that. Similar stuff as with basically every Bond actor.

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Genre bias maybe but it didn't help that the lead actor was so awful in TDK. The genre bias is overstated because The Lord of the Rings, a fantasy movie with magic won Best Picture. Bale is a black hole of awfulness in the sequel. Go to YouTube and watch Mark Kermode's review on The Dark Knight. He was so spot on about Bale in TDK and Kermode was a Bale fan.

And why would he regret Batman? Because of his own words when promoting the Malicl movie. He didn't achieve what he should have When playing Batman. It's even worse when he was paid millions of dollars making these movies.

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He didn't say it was waste of his time or that he regrets having done them (you're overstating that) - and obviously he'd be crazy to say anything of the sort, since it was good for him to have been in them, and he's correct in being grateful.

Genre bias is a very real thing, and fantasy and comic book movies are not the same genre. Also, Tolkien is thought of as classic stuff one is supposed to respect, while comic books are looked down upon. Very different thing. In any case, lots of movies that are later considered classics never got much (or any) Oscar love. It just happens, and blaming it on one actor is silly. Besides, Nolan has never been nominated as a director, they haven't warmed up to him enough for that I suppose - or he just makes wrong type of movies for the Academy. (Or do you somehow blame Nolan's lack of noms on Bale as well?)

Maybe you don't understand the concept of people having different opinions and accepting that as a fact instead of your own opinion being some sort of "objective truth"... and how is Kermode's opinion even relevant here? He's one person, as are you. You and him happen to agree on this occasion? Okay, so? (And it's not like all critics had that opinion, either.) I mean... you've made it clear here and elsewhere that you hate Bale's Batman. Obviously you have every right to that opinion, but you've said it, no need to keep at it. You don't have to re-watch the movies and he's no longer Batman, so why not be happy about that instead of complaining? Enjoy Affleck all you like. I see this with Bond fans all the time as well, and it's tiring. I don't see the point of it.

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No.....
His performances were great. People like to give his BATMAN shade, but his Bruce Wayne performance in all three movies were incredible

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Worst performances? Try Terminator Salvation or Reign of Fire. Bale's batman in Batman Begins specially, is still the best live action batman IMO. Also he slayed the Bruce Wayne role by emulating every facet of the character, whereas Affleck played a very one note Bruce Wayne, he was basically playing himself as in every movie of his, just a more brooding version. You are crazy if you think Bale was the reason for the movie not being nominated, back then there was only a handful of slots available and for a comic book movie to receive a best picture nom it would be pushing it too much already. You say Bale is only liked as batman due to Nolan, but if you take a quick look at some of the more recent polls you'll see that usually Bale comes out on the top followed by Affleck, even though people hate Zack Snyder with a passion. You are trying to make your opinion come across as fact.

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The genre bias is overstated because The Lord of the Rings, a fantasy movie with magic won Best Picture.

Not the best of the comparisons, IMO. On one side you have an adaptation of the greatest fantasy books in modern literature and the other side, a guy in a mask fighting criminals. Critics and people only took Nolan Batman films serious is because they're well made and near Oscar worthy.

Make a move, Reindeer Games..

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For me he still is the best live-action Batman and no he didn't waste his time starring in one of the best film trilogies of all time that made him this popular.

Make a move, Reindeer Games..

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I very much agree on both points.

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