His movies generally don't have nudity. Bridget Fonda quickly shows her ass in Jackie Brown for no more than 3 seconds, and Kerry Washington shows her bush in Django so quick that you'd miss it if you blinked. You would think a guy who proudly displays his foot fetish would have naked women all the time.
I think Tarantino went on record in an interview in the past year or so saying that he doesn't do sex scenes or nudity in his films (much; Jackie Brown is an exception) because..."its a hassle to film, and even harder to film now"(with intimacy coordinators) and he doesn't really think it adds much to movies.
He's probably right, nowadays. Porn is readily available everywhere so "mainstream movies" can't do much to compete as a matter of eroticism. And a lot of "serious" actresses won't agree to film such scenes anymore.
I was watching an old Clint Eastwood movie the other night -- from 1975 when he was young and muscular and a "hot guy" -- called The Eiger Sanction. He had an extended sex scene with an actress and it looked like those scenes ALL looked like in the 70s when the R rating first came in: overly staged and fake. Without a lot of real detail. A lot of footage of bare backs, a glimpse of nipple, bodies clinging, etc. A cliche.
I'm guessing that QT just doesn't want to bother with those kinds of scenes anymore. He's all about great dialogue and great violent action.
Still it was funny seeing middle-aged Robert DeNiro after less than a minute of quick sex with young Bridget Fonda in Jackie Brown, saying "That hit the spot."
>Porn is readily available everywhere so "mainstream movies" can't do much to compete as a matter of eroticism.
Why do people keep going to that ridiculous “watch porn” response when talking about nudity and sex in films/TV?
There are news reports about murder so why watch mysteries?
Why watch action films if there are actual MMA matches you can watch?
Because porn is boring!
Porn merely exists for people to pleasure themselves.
Nudity and sex in films and shows exists to add impact and emotion to characters and stories.
While Tarantino has no idea how to include nudity and sex to his cartoonish movies (which is fine), there are several other directors — especially internationally because some people in the US are hellbent on suppressing nudity while promoting bloody violence — and “serious” actresses who feel it can be an integral part of theirs.
Almost every Oscar winning Best Picture since 1970 has included nudity and almost every “serious” best actress and supporting actress has performed nude.
Thankfully they didn’t just stop while filming and say, “You know what? Audiences can just watch porn because they aren’t mature enough to handle nudity and sex in our film.”
>Porn is readily available everywhere so "mainstream movies" can't do much to compete as a matter of eroticism.
Why do people keep going to that ridiculous “watch porn” response when talking about nudity and sex in films/TV?
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Well, very good. You will find that I'm one of those posters who doesn't quite know what to do about strongly held counter-opinions, but I'm always willing to hear them and often willing to take the point..and back pedal accordingly.
So...I will.
Before confronting the "porn" angle, I'll shift my support to what Tarantino is saying about how DIFFICULT it is to stage such scenes. You have to clear the set of most onlookers. The man and woman in question have to wear "patches on their genitals." and of course have to "mime" the physical motions of the sexual act...with camera angles carefully undertaken. It just sounds like it is a lot of work and..potentially embarrassing.
Of course, actors and actresses are a fairly "open," adventurous and exhibitionist lot, so any number of them have been willing to perform sex scenes over the decades with some abandon and enthusiasm, from what I've read.
And then there was Faye Dunaway, who it was reported -- played a sex scene with William Holden in Network(1976) while covered by a sheet and bare back showing -- and went NUTS watching the rushes, sure that a glimpse of her nipple was caught and she did NOT want it shown.
My take on the "porn" thing is that, compared to something like that scene in The Eiger Sanction in which everything is so fragmented that the erotic angle is lost...porn at least gets down to business and for a nice long time. (That DURATION aspect is what usually kills sex scenes in mainstream film...they can't go on to long.)
There are news reports about murder so why watch mysteries?
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I'm reminded that Alfred Hitchcock -- scripted -- once said "My films are about murder -- not the messy low-level murders one sees splashed all over the newspapers, but murders that take wit and ingenuity to devise.
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Why watch action films if there are actual MMA matches you can watch?
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I'm reminded that compared to the big long "duke em up" fights in James Bond movies (particuarly Connery-Saw in From Russia With Love) and martial arts films, REAL fights are often just a lot of grappling until somebody gets their jaw broken with one punch.
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Because porn is boring!
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As a general principal...yes. But still maybe that's what I'm saying: no mainstream film can capture what porn is allowed to show.
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Nudity and sex in films and shows exists to add impact and emotion to characters and stories.
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Well, here's where I definitely switch over to your side. I grew up when the R rating movies came in and I must admit seeing the romantic situations sometimes(though not always) lead to heartfelt consensual erotic action was....better than porn. Yeah.
Or even FUN sexual comportment. The man and woman enjoying it.
Or very melancholy sexual action. The long sex scene between Donald Sutherland and Julie Christie(mourning the death of their child) in "Don't Look Now" (1973.) That was famous but also cut in fragments with time jumps to them clothed.
While Tarantino has no idea how to include nudity and sex to his cartoonish movies (which is fine), there are several other directors — especially internationally because some people in the US are hellbent on suppressing nudity while promoting bloody violence
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I agree on the foreign vs US thing
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— and “serious” actresses who feel it can be an integral part of theirs.
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Well, that's what I meant about how certain actors and actresses(and the erotic burden is mainly on actresses, yes?) are quite open to peforming these scenes, being filmed doing so and having the results projected in public. (Though hey, wait a minute -- evidently Brando and Bertolucci exploited and abused Maria Scheider in the making of Last Tango in Paris.)
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Almost every Oscar winning Best Picture since 1970 has included nudity
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Patton? The French Connection? The Sting?
Well, The Godfather for sure. But only briefly. Michael's bride. The hooker shot in bed with the Mafia john.
And The Godfather movie had a rather brief comic interlude -- erotic enough -- of James Caan's Sonny banging the bridesmaid against the door. In Mario Puzo's novel, this was a page and a half of "porno writing" that became about 30 seconds of screen time. Boy was there a lot of talk about the version in the BOOK. In the paperback I think it was pages 27-28.
And: and almost every “serious” best actress and supporting actress has performed nude.
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Hmm. I guess we'd have to go to that Mr. Skin site on that. Julia Roberts? No. Kate Winslet? Yes. Many times. I've often said that Helen Mirren must have had it in her contracts that nude scene was REQUIRED. Well into her "older age."
In conclusion: you have convinced me, rough though your criticisms were. (I can take them. The real world is a lot rougher.)
In fact, I'm going to here note some sex scenes with nudity -- from the 70's -- that made an impression on me on a "quick memory review":
Last Tango in Paris.
Rancho Deluxe: a scene between Jeff Bridges and Patti D'Arbanville.
The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea. A scene between Kris Kristofferson and Sarah Miles...VERY loving...and they recreated it in stills for Playboy. (Kristofferson's wife saw the layout and divorced him.)
North Dallas Forty: a scene between Nick Nolte and Savannah Smith.
He’s said that he doesn’t include nudity or sex scenes because they’ve always been a pain to shoot and are even more so now with the potential metoo-related backlash and having to deal with intimacy coordinators.
I can't speak for nudity in his films because I've never noticed any. Of course I haven't seen "Jackie Brown".
Frankly, one could care less. What I noticed about his movies is....
What a weirdo he is! Tarantino I mean. I happened to watch a few interviews he did on You Tube yesterday. First of all he's got one the weirdest looking faces I've ever seen. Secondly, his comportment. His presentation of himself. He comes across like a nut case.
So, he has a foot fetish? Makes sense - very strange person.
As far as his films - eehh, they're ok. Never been much of a fan.
Yeah, if he was just a regular guy walking down the street - and one happened to start talking to him - I'd make a quick exit, thinking to myself "Man, what a f(*&^%in' jerk".