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Closed The House of Parker, and addressing issues

posted 16 years ago by BetelgeuseWC77
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Well, I posted this here once, but I deleted my other account thinking I'd get a fresh start at IMDb with another one. Didn't know that would delete my posts, so I'm trying this again, saying some of what I did before and adding some.

As those of you who were members know, I closed my Yahoo group for Parker, The House of Parker, as well as a second one I had for her. Fact is, I've lost just about all interest in her (and, yes, interest has been lost in the group). Partly due to the autograph issue, and partly due to burning myself out on her.

Right or wrong, her stance of pretty much ignoring all fans who try to contact her from afar dampened my enthusiasm for her. But, so did how strongly I followed her for the last 10 years (my own fault). And I just mean her career. Some of you looked at me as a stalker. And some of you need to pick up a dictionary to see what the definition is.

I had an offer to take over the group, but the fact is, and I don't mean it in a hateful way, I didn't want to keep a fan site around for Parker. She has her reasons, and maybe some legitimate ones. But, I feel that she doesn't sign autographs or communicate with fans unless they're standing right in front of her is discriminatory. As for a past issue with a fan who was mailing her that caused a problem... A psycho fan that you've signed for who's only a few feet from you is FAR more dangerous than one who may be in another country, so I think it's an excuse to ignore fan mail. I could be wrong, and hope I am. Since she can't find a few minutes for fans unless she's face to face with them, then I have a hard time with finding a few minutes to run a site. Especially since I barely have any time to spend online lately after a promotion at work and other aspects of life.

I've found myself feeling this way even more strongly after having surgery recently. It does make you reevaluate how you're spending the life you've been given, and spending so much time on a celebrity, especially one who won't acknowledge your existance seems senseless. I won't do that ever again for any celebrity, how ever much I like them. I'm not even sure I want to continue being a fan of hers at the moment. Right now I just need to take an extended break from her, and see if any passion for her returns.

That said, even if it doesn't, I don't hold a grudge or any hard feelings toward her. I detest that she simply ignores a segment of her fan population, but she has her reasons, it's her choice, and I still consider her a wonderful actress (as well as, yes, perhaps the most beautiful woman I've ever seen). I do wish her the best, no matter what. Not sure when I'll be moved to watch a film with her, but I hope she appears in many more, and does eventually get that Academy Award. She truly deserved to not only be nominated, but WIN for "The House of Yes", the most original and captivating female role I've ever seen!

Ones I do resent, and do not wish well are ones who went out of their way to ridicule, embarrass and undermine me, when I was I was trying to help other fans have more access to Parker, and be able to have something from her they'd cherish: An autograph. I'm not the first who's wasted time and money trying to get just a little thing from his idol, and something that's NOT unreasonable to request. I was trying to address the issue and make a breakthrough so I'd be the last to go through such a frustrating, fruitless endeavor, but I've heard of nothing changing. So, I guess Parker will continue to overlook fan mail/autograph requests, and I strongly suggest that nobody bother trying.

Back to the heartless bastards who attacked me: You think I'm pathetic for the time and effort I've spent on this? First, it's not as much time as it appears. It's just many of you blowing things out of proportion. What's really pathetic is using so much time and so many of the brain cells available for your use to try and tear down what I was doing. There's something sick about attacking someone just because they have a passion for something.

The day the most emotion a fan expresses about Parker is to say "OMFG, Parkr Posy and her mvies R so kewl" is the day her career may be in trouble. If that's the day that's the most emotion anybody can show, then Earth is in trouble. Passion and emotion for a celebrity doesn't make you a stalker. That's someone who actually STALKS and follows a celebrity. If you think I'm a stalker, you're an idiot.

To the last moron who responded to the autograph thread. If you want to brag about having an autograph yourself to irritate and annoy me, that's fine. Really, it is. If I were moved to, I could blast you right back and go back and forth all night. But, it's pretty s***ty to brag when there are others here who didn't have your access to her and haven't been so lucky. Makes you look like a real moron. To let you know, I do have an autograph. But, I can't say for certain it's real. I paid over $200 to what I thought was a reputable company to get the autograph in person, since I didn't see a chance of accomplishing it myself. Except I wasn't provided any proof of the signing (IE, picture of her signing), as was advertised. So, there's always been that hint of doubt. One of my reasons for wanting to change her stance was so other fans would be less likely to be ripped off. Except so many are so eager to throw a stalker tag on ANYBODY who shows too much passion. Probably because they are jealous to find anybody with a passion for anything in this frighteningly apathetic world of ours.

In closing, I want to give my heart-felt thanks to the people here who have been kind to me, responded to my posts and been reasonable with me on an admittedly controversial issue. And to those who participated in the groups. Others anger me, but you'll always mean more to me and I have fond memories of posting here and at the groups. I have no plans of participating here past this post, but maybe one day I'll rediscover my love for Parker and return to the fan community. Can't see that happening, but who knows.

To my critics, I'll quote the great college basketball coach, "General" Bobby Knight, from a famous speech of his: "When my time on Earth is gone and my activities here are passed, I want they bury me upside down and my critics can kiss my a$$"!

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[–] filmfanatic101 16 years ago

I enjoyed the group, but I cannot blame you at all. Feeling snubbed or unappreciated by somebody you've invested so much time in caring about is very hurtful and discouraging--I mean that with complete sincerity, no sarcasm whatsoever. I've been a fan of Parker's for 12 years (not her newer mainstream movies, but the classics like House of Yes, Party Girl, Henry Fool, etc), but I'm not as big a fan anymore because she hasn't remained true to her original fans at all. There is nothing wrong with branching out, but Parker doesn't seem grateful for those of us who have loved her before she was famous and helped her become recognized.

[–] BetelgeuseWC77 16 years ago

Thank you for the post of support. Stopped back by here out of curiosity, fully expecting to have been mutilated after my original post, so this was a surprise. I'm glad to see it's not just me who feels this way too.

As one who's followed her for even longer than I did, you may've noticed some of the things I have indicating a general disinterest in fans. Most noteworthy over a period over the ten years I called myself a fan were that I never read of her signing autographs except occasionally in person. And doing that bare minimum for fans is heavily in her self interest since shunning fans in public would quickly get her a bad name in gossip/entertainment columns. Word isn't going to spread as quickly if she ignores fan mail, because a lot of people (AKA ones far smarter than myself) would wash their hands of her early and not bother addressing her mistreatment in public. Also, in all the countless maybe hundreds of articles I've read about her, I don't remember one mention of fans. There's only one theory I have, aside from her just not giving a damn.

There's not so much reliance on fan support in independent film. So many of her early movies were low budget indie films that were only going to get limited NY/LA releases no matter what, so box office takes didn't matter. So, I think the indie film culture isn't given to caring what the general public thinks, because such films are only going to play so widely. I think the biggest sign of this phenomenon is that Parker is a legend in New York City, yet if you mention her most anywhere else in the US, you'll get "who's Parker Posey"?

I'm not making excuses for her. I don't care enough to defend her anymore. Whatever the culture of indie film actors, at some point you hope common consideration for fans who care about you will come into play, which it hasn't with her.

I haven't been as crazy about some of her recent films either (her and her role in "The Eye" were so lackluster, I was sorry I saw it... hardly believed it was Parker Posey, but rather a look-alike or clone). Still, with some exceptions like aforementioned "The Eye", I thought well of most of her performances. Even though I don't frankly don't even like her now, I can't question her acting potential. With the right part, she could win an Academy Award (and I know it is possible after Melissa Leo from "Homicide" came from virtual obscurity last year). But, with her increased high profile and reliance on box office support, will her career last long enough?

One of the most ironic things here is that obviously from the time she was "Indie Film Queen", she aspired to be a big-time Hollywood A-lister. Otherwise she wouldn't take roles in something like "Scream 3" or "Superman Returns". Well, she made that transition from Indies to big budget film wise, but didn't make the transition fan wise. Now in a situation where fan support is important, and she's shedding fans like myself with her indifference, her career is starting to fade. Well, whatever happens, I guess there'll always be the Dairy Qu...Uh, I mean Indie Films.:) I guess I better stop before I start making Hannibal King comments about her.

I'm not sure there are any fans she's true to. I hope the day comes when she sees the error in her ways and changes them. Until then, and maybe not even then, she won't see any more business from me. Maybe that's the wrong way to look at it, and it probably is. But as a rejected, hurt fan, it's the only way I can, sadly. I'm sorry you've been disappointed too. Hopefully, we can both be proud and passionate about her again someday.

[–] sat-elite 15 years ago

'a general disinterest in fans'

'There's only one theory I have, aside from her just not giving a damn'.

'Parker is a legend in New York City, yet if you mention her most anywhere else in the US, you'll get "who's Parker Posey"? '

'I'm not making excuses for her'.

'I don't care enough to defend her anymore'.

'common consideration for fans who care about you will come into play, which it hasn't with her'.

'Even though I don't frankly don't even like her now',

will her career last long enough?

'she's shedding fans like myself with her indifference, her career is starting to fade'.

'I guess I better stop before I start making Hannibal King comments about her'.

'I hope the day comes when she sees the error in her ways and changes them'.

It's a good thing you are moving on then for everybody's sake.
Who knows what might happen if you lost your day job, and then got shunned by somebody you had a ten year fixation on.

[–] julianjm 15 years ago

Hell hath no fury like a fan scorned ... I can hear the ticking from here!

[–] IMDBUser1969 14 years ago

I'm inclined to agree with you. And, personally, I think asking for an autograph is just creepy. Leave the celebs alone. Tell them you're a fan, and then move on.

[–] BetelgeuseWC77 14 years ago

Well, clearly Parker agrees with the majority of you, as those of us who are true fans and have asked nicely are out of luck. And strangers who run into her on the street and say "hey, there's a celebrity... I can get her autograph and make a killing on Ebay" are more suitable than said true fans for being given autographs. Strange world we live in where apathy wins and passion for something is creepy. All I know is a family member told me it is (or was) a long-standing tradition in Hollywood for movie stars to give their fans autographs. But, whatever.