Unpopular opinion: he was a good Batman/Bruce Wayne.
The film was terribly written but he made that bad dialogue work. He looked great in the mask too.
shareThe film was terribly written but he made that bad dialogue work. He looked great in the mask too.
shareI disagree. I say he made no attempt to play a complex, angry, duplicitous, strange, deeply honorable human being... he just tried to play a guy who was cool and sexy!
I don't blame Kilmer, of course, not with Schumacher around. I mean, his idea of complex characterization is "Val, honey, you know you can be sexier than Michael Keaton! Come on baby, pout for me...".
But he also had to ham it up for this film in comparison of the first two.
shareI disagree, playing every damn scene with a sexy pout is the opposite of hamming it up.
To see someone actually hamming it up, see Jim Carrey in the same damn film! Yelling, shimmying, throwing his arms wide, mugging... but well. IMHO mostly making it work, I actually love Carrey in this film.
I thought he was great. And no-one has ever looked better in the suit.
shareTHE MOST UNDERRATED BATMAN
https://youtu.be/XCHEg97fqfs
Val Kilmer: The most underrated Bruce Wayne/ Batman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz4TkfDtuq4
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If this movie didn't suck, people would have appreciated him more.
shareI too wonder why Val Kilmer seems to be vastly underrated as Batman. Is it because that he only played the character once (even George Clooney played Bruce Wayne at least twice if you count his cameo in the Flash movie) so he's therefore, pretty much the George Lazenby of Batman actors?
Is it because Val is in this weird place where he didn't originate the role like Michael Keaton and he did play the role in a near universally despised film (and thus, isn't exactly remembered first and foremost, for all the wrong reasons) like George Clooney had to do. So Val was I suppose, literally and figuratively, the "middle of the road" Batman.
I think they associate this and "Batman & Robin" as the bad films and equate Val with being just as bad a George. I don't even think Val was "middle of the road", I actually think he was solid.
shareI don't think Batman Forever is anywhere close to being universally despised. It only started to receive widespread hate when Batman & Robin came along and the two got lumped in together in people's minds. Unlike Batman & Robin, Batman Forever was hugely successful at the time, and there are still plenty who like it.
shareI was just saying in anorher thread how I'm probably the only one who thought he was grossly miscast as the character?? Bruce Wayne in my mind is a very distinguishable character and Val Kilmer never fit that to me?? And of course after this came BATMAN & ROBIN that was the nail in the coffin.. If Christopher Nolan never existed, what would've happend to this character?? Also, I get that ROBIN was part of the equation, but if I made this, I never would've brought ROBIN into it.. BATMAN never needed ROBIN regardless of the TV Show
shareI remember Nolan saying that he was 100% against adding Robin as a sidekick. I think that's why he kept the Robin character subtle in "The Dark Knight Rises". Robin just doesn't work. He always makes things worse.
shareI agree with Nolan. I'll be happy if Robin never shows up in another Batman film.
shareI don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion at all. He pulled it off.
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