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A careerist and a whore.


Now she is complaining about the abuse from Harvey Weinstein, well she didn't have to take it, but she did in order to get her awful film made.

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Hayek, now 51, did not detail specific encounters with Weinstein but glazed over the different things she said "no" to when asked by the disgraced film honcho.

"No to me taking a shower with him. No to letting him watch me take a shower. No to letting him give me a massage. No to letting a naked friend of his give me a massage. No to letting him give me oral sex. No to my getting naked with another woman. No, no, no, no, no … ,"

She's not a whore. She's an actress and she was hired to act. No one should have to put up with behavior like that from someone in a position of power and I refuse to believe that you can't see why it's hard for someone to speak up against the guy who sits atop the pyramid. Further the fact that so many people like you blame the victim is just another in the list of reasons why more people don't come forward when they suffer this kind of abuse.

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That is why I call her a careerist and a whore. I'm not victim blaming, I'm telling the truth. She already had an established career, based on her looks alone because she can't act, and she didn't have to put up with all of that, no one does, but she did because she wanted her movie to be made. She is part of the problem, sorry but it's the truth.

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So she turns down his sexual advances and you call her a whore. Women really can't win sometimes with people like you using demeaning terms toward them regardless of what they do. I disagree with you on almost all of your posts, but this is the first time I find myself actually angry with something you've said. If you really are the troll that others claim you are, then congrats you succeeded in pissing me off.

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In some cultures, a woman who is raped is at fault and may even be stoned.

I guess that some people believe actresses are at fault for looking like actresses.

People who think like that are the problem.

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Not my intention to piss you off. She said no but then put up with all his OTHER non sexual abuse, why? Because she wanted an Oscar and a better career than she has. Who is to blame?

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So you dropped the chauvinistic "whore" angle when out in your place. Maybe there is hope for you yet!

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Letthemeatcake:
You are so ignorant. She refused to sleep with the guy, but yet you still call her a "whore"? She ended up putting up with the guy because at that time he still had the power to decide whether her film was going to get made or not, and this was the first time, I think, she had produced a film on her own. Yeah, she had to make other compromises to get her movie made, but that sure as didn't make her a "whore". Obviously you don't even know the meaning of the word, or you wouldn't be so flippant with how you used it. And there are men in the industry that have reported having issues with him too, but I don't see you calling them "whores", so your comment about her was not only stupid as hell, but just plain sexist as hell,too. Plus she had a career before she met him and still has one due to her own efforts, and has had her own production company for years---he didn't make or break her career to begin with.

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I stand by what I said, if she had had any dignity and not sold herself like a whore she would have quit the project like many other actresses did.

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Stress a whore because she was intimidated by a powerful man and yet managed to put her foot down and refuse him nonetheless?

Idk if you're a troll like others say you are but you have a very low opinion of women, probably think badly of your mother, sister, daughter, nieces/aunts, and grandmothers as well. Which is very sad for you actually because no man who has ever loved a woman ever can have such a low opinion of them.

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what a stupid ass fucked up sexist comment. People are individuals, and women are not princesses that all need to be loved, fuck that shit, some of them are the lowest of the low.

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So caring for a woman or any woman is sexist and means treating them like princesses? Lol, you're mind is not grounded in reality I'm afraid. Idk what happened to you that you have divided the species between opposing sexes where you've become incapable of having empathy for the other or ever loving them. You probably don't see them as human subconsciously and it really is your loss to be so confused and depraved in such a mindset.

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not what I said at all, I value people on who they are and their decisions not their gender.

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Just saw you on the American Crime Story board bemoaning the white washing of a half Filipino playing another half Filipino he resembles. Thanks troll, to quote Peterson "Gotcha!"

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I agree. Though she does play a lot of sexy roles and probably cant act much. She didnt sleep with him and stood her ground. She shouldnt be called a whore for that. It wouldve been very easy for her to cave but she didnt at all and didnt put up with it and if she did for a her project thats common. The industry is tough and a lot have to put up with a lot of crap just to get things done. A lot of asshole directors, bad actors you cant stand, bad scripts, bad techs, your bound to have a bad day and not want to put up with all that crap. She isn't going to tank her beloved project putting millions of workers out of a job for some creep. She did the right thing by just saying no and ignoring him.

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LetThemEatCake;

Salma is a good actress, and she happens to be one of my favorite actresses,btw----looks alone don't keep an acting career afloat, because looks come and looks go. Obviously you're never seen any of her films, so you're really in no position to judge anything she's been in. And your comments toward her are just ignorant and stupid----so I guess according to your backwards rationale, all these actresses who claim Weinstein harassed them and stopped their careers are all "whores" because some of them put up with his bull****? Just STFU, please----you sound ridiculous as hell.

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He's never seen any films. Ever

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He's also in love with her, but he is shaming her because he can never have her

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Just report LetThemEatCake, he has started many threads like this blaming victims of Weinstein. He is a bitter misogynist Queen.

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I have to say, letthemeatcake is often trolling and harsh in his posts, and almost always expresses himself in an offensive and trollish way.
But he has a little bit of a point here, meaning: it's not very honest to complain about some past attempted abuse, that she didn't allow, but then be fine with the favors said abuser gave her in the same occasions he attempted the abuse.
I mean, she could have outed weinstein then, or she could have refused to work on that project with him then, or she could have just said today "yeah, he tried to abuse me, I didn't allow it, but what can you do, it's hollywood and I had to accept that".

It's like this last part of the logic is missing from her statements, the fact that she went along with that abuser, and she obviously knew that he was an abuser, because either she wanted to further her carreer, or she just knew that's the business and had no other choice.

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Victim blamers should be shot between the eyes.

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1 I am not blaming any victim
2 people that can only see either black or white should be shot between the eyes

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1 I am not blaming any victim
2 people that can only see either black or white should be shot between the eyes

Both The OP and most of the rest on this thread seem surprised that a Hollywood actress is a careerist and a whore. They all pretend that there's another way up the ladder in the biz

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I do not talk for them.
I feel sorry for her and anybody else that goes through such events.

But in her case I can also see that she is not very fair to only now attack a man who tried this shit, failed, and never tried again.
Then he still helped her career a lot.
So she is fine with THAT part of the "deal".
Couldn't she out weinstein 20 years ago and/or never work with him again?

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But in her case I can also see that she is not very fair to only now attack a man who tried this shit, failed, and never tried again.
Then he still helped her career a lot.
So she is fine with THAT part of the "deal"

No one would mind if she just said outright "He put the moves on me; I kindly but firmly declined, and went on to enjoy a great career with Weinstein's help. I did what I had to do, to get ahead in this bloodsport of a business, and would do it again, even as I acknowledge that dude is a lech."

Instead, she's acting as if she's been traumatized by this event, when we all know she hadn't even given it much thought, prior to MeToo becoming a moral panic

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They seem upset that a woman that they fantasize about is not a super honest person. That's THEIR problem for letting this woman occupy space in their mind, but they want to project this frustration onto the real world as if it's an actual problem worth addressing

If she weren't extremely hot then this would be a story nobody would be discussing. It's part of the conservative fantasy that a woman like Hayek also be a virtuous madonna

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