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Are you fluent in English - but it was not your first language?


If so how difficult is it to master?

I imagine it would be a nightmare.

I love the English language but have to admit that to someone not familiar with it, it must be an complete mess.

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My wife is from Indonesia and her English is excellent.

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When did she start learning it?

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At school - she then worked for a Singaporean company and had to use English, so by the time I met her she was pretty good.

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It is common to learn English already as a kid here in Sweden.
Trust me, it is much easier than German for example.

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It is? I thought German and French were relatively easy compared to English?

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Abolutely not.
You have to learn a lot of grammar to master German.
French is not quite as hard, but still a more difficult language to learn than English.

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Not at all. Being both germanic languages German to learn is more difficult than English (at least it was so for me).

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Depends what language you are starting from. German is easier to learn from English than it is from French. French is easier to learn from Italian than from English. Most ESL folks I know picked up English quickly by watching lots of American movies and tv shows.

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That's an excellent point. People in non English speaking countries would have far more exposure to English (chiefly through US movies and TV and music etc) than English speaking people would have to other languages.

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It's easy at first, then it becomes a nightmare, and then it becomes much easier.

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I am speaking the English very good, and am getting betters all the time.

😎

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I am not saying that I am fluent in English, what I can say is that it was not easy at the beginning (especially the pronunciation) and...... all these phrasal verbs 😉

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I've never met a foreigner who can impersonate a perfect English or American accent. I once hurt this girls feelings when I asked if she was Colombian due to her accent. She said "nobody can hear that, everyone says I sound American".

No, she sounded like a foreigner who puts on an American accent. I could still hear her shortcomings.

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I assume you mean a 'foreigner' from a non English speaking country.

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Yeah. Are you an Aussie or something?

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Yeah. We have tons of infiltrators there lol.

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This thread would make sense if it was about french. I am French Canadian and it was very easy to learn English. French language is crazy hard to learn and has so many specificities and exceptions and rules and complicated nonsense.

French: Aujourd’hui je m’en vais vers mon verre vert dans lequel il y a un verre de terre.

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French is a nightmare to learn. The stuff they teach in school isn't how its spoken. On instead of nous, ne not used, E not pronounced, no verb inversions.

And like you wrote, it's extremely structured. I'm relearning the language. ex. "Poser une question" instead of "demander une question".

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What a headache! I much prefered English class than french back in school.

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French is my favorite language and I was happy to take classes, but I can't retain all the rules. There's a youtube French instructor who points out all the mistakes that famous native speakers make so I don't feel bad.

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I've mostly learned English by watching American/British tv shows and movies from a very young age. You can't really compare it to other languages. German probably should've been easier to learn, but I just wasn't exposed to it as much.

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