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Does it actually happen that a doctor/surgeon operates on a WRONG body part?


I.e. they work on right leg when it was supposed to be left leg? Or any other analogy. That would be my biggest fear going in for surgery.

I've heard of cases of dentists pulling the wrong tooth!

Scary!

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i was having a conversation about this very thing with the manager of our health clinic at work a month or so back. we got onto the topic of medical error, and i asked her to name the worst mistake she'd ever seen in her career.

& her answer was actually just what you'd described: some poor old lady got the wrong leg amputated. i think she'd said it was a severe infection case in one leg, & prep team somehow got the wrong leg ready & the doctor went ahead and did the amputation without verifying, & that was that.

until robots rise up and take over, the world is going to be run by people, and people are going to make mistakes, big and small.

i made a doozy of a mistake myself a few weeks back. one of the things i like about working in finance is that, when i screw up, the worst thing that happens is i'll annoy people and maybe get yelled at a bit. no one loses a leg because of me.

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What makes you think robots will not make mistakes? This idea of AI being all knowing and all powerful is a foolish notion.

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thank you for being completely humorless. kudos and well done. if only we had more like you.

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If you want jokes ... look in the mirror. I take this AI thing seriously. They are trying to scam the government to pay to win the AI race, and we will have to pay for that.

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ok.
happy posting to you, trent.

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Who is "they"?

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You know, them!

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You still haven't told us who's on first

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Seriously, I meant all those people who would benefit from getting tons of government money in a boondoggle to create artificial general intelligence. Elon Musk might be one ( like he doesn't have enough money ) and others. There is a huge push to make people fear AI when we really need to fear the power that technology gives people which control that AI. Like one general in command of an entire army of robotic killer soldiers.

I think AI is a very long way off, and probably cannot be build until huge breakthroughs occur understanding how the human brain both worked, but also how our psychologies evolved ... and then we would only have something that might mimic our brains without any sense of mortality of belonging to the human race.

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That is why they write in marker - WRONG PART on the wrong part. Any mistake you can think of people making has probably been made more times than you want to think about. It is a total miracle that we have not blown up the planet in a nuclear conflagration. Daniel Ellsberg has written and lectured extensively about this.

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Wow! The veracity and irony of this post is so profound for me, after having finally watched this much touted movie just last evening.
https://moviechat.org/tt0090163/Threads

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Sounds interesting ... a British version of The Day After
Another good series to watch is Jericho.
https://moviechat.org/tt0805663/Jericho

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I recognize that although I've never actually followed the series. Coincidentally, I'm in the middle of Kansas. I'm very familiar with The Day After. There is an abandoned missile silo, such as the ones depicted in that movie, just west of where I live.

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Here's some scary incidents. One involves comedian Dana Carvey:
https://businesstoday.co.ke/10-shocking-cases-wrong-patient-surgeries/

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Yes, it happens. Or they even operate the wrong patient.

I've witnessed such a mess in a military hospital during my service. Not only that they took out the wrong person's appendix, they had kept the patient under the wrong name - meaning that he's officially gone missing and was suspected for desertion for two days.

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> I've witnessed such a mess in a military hospital during my service.

A friend told me a funny story about something that happened to her during her Marine Corps service. She went to the doctor for some small problem, and when he arrived in the examination room he took her chart and looked over it. He then said, "all right, last time you were you were having problems with [some medical thing] and were prescribed [some drug], how is that working out?" -- describing things that had never happened to her.

"I'm sorry, but I don't know what you're talking about, sir."

"Well, you've had problems with ___ in the past, haven't you? It says so here."

"May I see that, sir?"

He handed the chart to her. Now, she's about 5'3", white, with blonde hair. She saw the problem immediately -- her name is Michelle, and the chart was for a man named Michael with the same surname. Then she, a mere corporal, looked at this senior officer and said, "Sir, do I look like a six-foot-four black man to you?"

He was quite embarrassed but took it well, from what she said.

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It's happened in the past, which is why modern rules and regulations requiring the surgical team to make 200 different pre-operative checks are in place. I just had surgery on my broken leg, and both the surgeon and the anesthesiologist came to my hospital room and wrote their initials on the damaged leg, as required by law, even though the splint was kind of a clue even if I hadn't been able to tell them which leg hurt. And then there have been a few patients who'd done better than that, before surgery they wrote "NOT THIS LEG, OPERATE ON THE OTHER ONE" on their good leg before surgery!

Remember, everybody hates these sorts of laws, rules, and regulations, but those that exist are because before the law, rule, or regulation was put in place, something went wrong and damage was done.

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