What did you think of the re-made "it" movie?
Did you like the orginal better? Liked them both? Hated the remade one? Had other opinions about it?
shareYou mean Stephen King's It? I like the original mini-series better, mostly because I don't like the new films. The mini-series has major flaws, I acknowledge that. But something I couldn't really get past in the films is that the kids don't seem scared of the clown. They're more scared of the adults in their lives (perhaps with good reason), which makes the first film more depressing than anything. And since they're not scared of the clown, then what is the point of the movies?
shareYea, i was referencing the stephen king movie remake that came out in 2017.
shareThey're more scared of the adults in their lives (perhaps with good reason), which makes the first film more depressing than anything. And since they're not scared of the clown, then what is the point of the movies?
That's because the clown is not the real villain in the movies. He's more like a lethal supernatural event that just happens to be there.
You can notice it very clearly in the beginning of the second movie: the real nasty evil characters are the white males on the bridge chasing the poor gays. After falling off the bridge, the guy dies because of the clown being there as he could have died breaking his head in the fall. The clown is portrayed like a supernatural periodical (and dangerous) event, he's not more of a villain than a volcano or a tsunami would be. The real evil active villains are the white males in the town. share
You're completely right - the villains in the film are people. But then what is the point of the clown even being there? It would have made more sense if the story revolved around these kids banding together because of how prevalent the natural evils of life occur within Derry. The supernatural elements of the story, which should be the most interesting part, feel completely incidental and they don't even segue way smoothly into each of the character's lives.
Also, I don't see Pennywise as a supernatural event, but either way, none of the kids are scared of him. These kids seem like they would be more afraid of a volcano eruption. As a result, there's zero tension in the story, so it was hard for me to invest in any of the characters or their potential endings, or care about whether they defeated Pennywise. When there's no fear from the characters, you can't be afraid for them.
Well, to be honest, Stephen King novels don't have villains (usually). He rarely writes about good vs evil. It's more a drama with flawed characters (sometimes deeply flawed) who face a supernatural threat, and what happens and how they react. The terror appears because the characters and the drama are extremely well written, and that makes the situation feel real.
When it comes to movies, for some reason, directors and writers use to enter almost automatically 'good vs evil' mode. I guess the original idea was to make the clown the evil villain... but he's not really a villain. So the white males in town ended up being the villains, because somebody had to be and this group is the usual scapegoat. And I think that's the biggest problem with both movies: instead of interesting flawed complex characters, we had black and white ones. And you don't care about the people in the story when they don't feel real. And if you don't care about them or identify with them, you're not likely to feel scared.