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Any theories why so few films released per year in Europe now?


Compared to several decades ago, for example Italy or France had a booming film industry, so many films released each year at that time, especially comedies, they were easily competing with Hollywood, you got Philippe De Broca, Gérard Oury, Mario Monicelli, Rossellini, Claude Chabrol, Francis Veber, Mario Bava, Ruggero Deodato, Jean Girault, Visconti, Bunuel, etc.. virtually incomparable when it comes to the amount of quality and groundbreaking in new film language to what is there today in commercial cinema, you can not count on art form filmmakers who make films only for festivals to save the industry. Does anyone know what is the reason why so few films are made in those countries now? Is it a matter of economy, or less younger filmmakers out there? I heard from film teachers and older veterans that younger filmmakers are lacking training background in the field, unwilling to work first in commercials or as assistant directors for instance in order to learn, and that's also one of the reasons why the quality and industry in Hollywood and Europe is in such a great great crisis these days. I understand this is obviously global, and Disney merger is in some ways part of it.

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The European movie industry has always relied a lot on government subsidies and tax breaks, but in recent years many governments in Europe have been reconsidering that generous policy.

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I think that's a good thing. Forcing them to create good movies or go bust. Rampant subsidies only encourage mediocre moviemaking.

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Amen! That's true for any industry in any country.

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I think the state should stay out of the moviemaking industry.

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In recent years. Alright, yet the prosperity of the European cinema has in many ways started declining after the fall of the Berlin wall in 89. In my view, a lot also has to do with the American overreaching influence once that happened. Most European filmmakers started immigrating or just copying Hollywood instead of tapping into their cultural roots to rebuild the industry. I would say that it is possible the European Union may have had an effect on this as well. The European film industry has to some degree skipped the generation as some critics used to say. Now we got old veteran directors carrying duties of the younger filmmakers.

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The 80s were the decade of the Hollywood blockbuster with expensive special effects. I don't think many people in Europe wanted to take the financial risk to compete with those, especially since the market for European movies is much smaller.

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They don't have to compete head-to-head. Hong Kong movie industry in the 80s and 90s were through the roof! They made their own kind of blockbusters. Great action movies with tenth of the budget.

In the 2000s they started to mimic Hollywood style productions with more special effects, extravagant CGI and quadrupled the budgets. Fifteen years later, the Hong Kong movie industry collapsed.

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I think that because of cultural reasons domestic movies have always been popular in Asia. It's much tougher to compete with the popularity of Hollywood movies in Europe.

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True. However, after they changed their ways and tried to compete more directly with Hollywood productions, they had their success for awhile, but it's not sustainable. They're going nowhere. They had become mere followers.

They used to be pioneers on martial art movies, stunts and created many unique sub-genres like heroic bloodshed, gun-fu, wire-fu, fantastical gambling and sports movies, cooking movies, all of which had no American counterparts. Asian people watched Hollywood AND Hong Kong movies. Instead of competing, they complements each other.

Their mistake was wanting to be more like Hollywood. Car chases, explosions, extensive CGI, sci-fi, etc. Nobody can't win againts the mighty USA in this kind of race. Now instead of watching both American and Hong Kong movies, audience COMPARES both productions. Hollywood would obviously wins every time.

Europe, too, I think still able to carve their own niche. Why not make Europan martial arts movies? I heard Russian and Balkan people likes martial arts, and other countries love East European-themed martial art movies, e.g., Boyka / Undisputed, etc. They have one of the best real martial art, Sambo. Afterall, many UFC champions came from these countries.

If Indonesia, via The Raid movies, was able to popularize a relatively unknown Silat into international audience right through Star Wars and John Wick 3, why not Sambo? It is even more brutal looking. Slavic people also has the right face type and body to portray though guys. I would like to consume dozens of B-movies about these adrenaline pumped muscle balls punching each other in style.

They are cheap to produce and has a long long long shelves life. They would be run run run again and again in cables and TVs. People still rent and watch 90s martial art movies. That's quite a lot of royalties to collect.

That's just one of my idea. It might work, or not. But right now, Europe just not even trying. They only produce mediocre boring movies covering non-interesting themes with no appeal to international audience whatsoever. They just want to pat themselves in the back and say this is "high art" or some shit. All while using every tax breaks and government subsidies.

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Asian movies have definitely become too Hollywood. A shame, really.

I think we Europeans will always think Asians (or even Americans!) do martial arts movies better than we possibly could. I think it would seem silly to most of us. Maybe the Balkan countries would make them if they had the money.

I think the most popular domestic movies over here are comedies and kids movies right now and not so much arty farty films.

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Other thing I want to add about Europe is that you got a really diverse and older heritage. Europe also has lots of different countries to choose as settings.

I think adventure movies like, say, spy mission or a hitman across Istanbul to The Haag would be cool. Jackie Chan did exactly that in The Accidental Spy, First Strike and Who Am I. But why must it was made by a Chinese. Why not by the Europeans themselves?

All those natural sceneries and man made buildings. Beautiful!

Just stay away from typical settings like Paris, Venice, Berlin, etc. I mean American movies already made enough movies set in those places all the time. For how many times again I have to see a spanning aerial shots of The Eiffel tower. I mean, it's good and all, but man, you guys have much much more than that.

Also, racial and etnicity diversity. Every year the good ol' USA made countless movies about racism, black people and white people, jews, etc. And they sell well. But Europe has even more people from all over the places.

In fact, I enjoyed the movie Doodslag (2012) very much. It's nice to learn a thing or two about how people of different backgrouds interact. Could be a little bit tighter and paced a bit better, but it's good enough. It was gripping and intense.

It's a movie one could not get from Hollywood. Americans don't know the ins-and-outs of Europe. They can make bang bang shooty shooty movies set in Europe all they want, buy they can never make a social commentary film on Europe.

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Who Am I? was actually filmed in my hometown! I remember it being a pretty big deal back then.😆

We should and could do better. But to have a big movie industry that can compete with Hollywood, we need to work together and that's pretty much impossible!

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The film and TV industry is booming in Canada because of tax breaks. There is a lot of crap made. I am not sure how long this can go on for.

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That's exactly how to create more Uwe Bolls.

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I had to google him

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Seriously? He's the most infamous (and successful) tax breaks abuser in the entire movie industry. We don't need more people like him making awfully terrible movies. We had enough awfully terrible movies made by legit producers already.

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I haven't seen any of his films

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Don't. They suck.

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Making a film requires a lot of resources; namely money, people, and various other stuff. There could be a lot of factors as to why film industries in various European countries aren't doing so well, so it can't really be nailed to any one thing. Maybe the economy's bad, maybe some country's film industry isn't making enough money, it could be a lot of things.

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I don’t know much about non-US cinema. But I would assume there’s more than one variable. But that the current state of the economy is number one. 🤷‍♀️

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They suck at making movies?

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Nah. They can make good movies when they feel like it.

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Yeah right. Apparently they haven't felt like it in a long while.

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