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Need advice!!!!


I asked my friends and family for this advice and it is a split decision so I want more opinions. I have a Honda and it needs a timing belt replacement and some valves are leaking. It will cost me $1200 for the repairs plus I have to get two new tires and I have some rock chip damage on the car too which will cost me an additional $250 to repair that. My Honda has been good to me and I had my car for the last 16 years (it's a 2003). Should I pay for all the repairs or should I throw in the towel and buy a new car?

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how many miles on it?

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My car has 143,000 miles on the odometer.

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143 is not bad on a Honda but you may want to look at resale. Is it running fine without the repairs?

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It's running fine but my car is leaking oil, gas and water because the timing belt needs replacing which means if I don't get the repairs, my car will not be in drivable condition.

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not worth it as this will only be the beginning of expensive repairs. time for a new car

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I think I agree with you.

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I would throw in the towel

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Okay thank you.

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Your Honda sounds like a money pit...I'd get rid of it

Consider leasing if you drive a lot
I've been leasing for years and I beat these Fords like they owe me money

Show up with a decent down payment ($2500 works!) and pay for the extra milage and damage insurance during the signing

Beat the hell out of your insured lease and get a new one in 2 or 3 yearsđź‘Ť

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Thank you ShogunofYonkers. :)

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I owned a Honda way back when. Great little vehicle until the timing belt stranded me. That was just the beginning. Get rid of the darn thing! Throw in the towel as far as you can! You are fortunate it’s lasted this long and 143,000 miles? It should go into the records books!

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What happened to your Honda after the timing belt went out?

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if it breaks while driving, major damage is often the result.

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It was a 1977 Honda Civic with a manual transmission. I drove it all over Dallas, made a couple trips to Florida and back to Texas. I loved that little car. When we moved back to Florida it came with us. I was driving it one day on the highway and all of a sudden it wouldn’t go. I had someone help me push it onto a U-Haul rental place. I remember that much because the arse charged me for overnight parking! We had it towed the next day.

Anyhow, after the timing belt repair I can’t recall how much...then the AC went. That I recall $600.00. I would say all of this occurred about 1985. Following the AC repair I drove to Orlando to shop. It died right in front of a high end dealership of all places. They were kind enough to let me use their phone to reach my husband. He left work, drove to Orlando and was able to limp it home while I drove his car. Repairs again. I sent the dealership a Thank You card.

Afterwards I’m driving around Kissimmee, Fl when it died again right on the major road. Someone helped me get it off the road. I had recently got my new cell phone. It was when cell phones were fairly new and not only were the carriers giving free phones, they were giving perks...like road assistance. Goody! I took advantage of that perk and had the thing towed 17 miles. It just seemed the timing belt incident started a chain reaction of repairs. I do recall it had an over heating problem. If I remember correctly it was then I put my cute little blue Honda Civic out to pasture. I wasn’t going to be stranded again! I got another vehicle.

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143k isn't bad for a Honda, Ksp. My last one made it to 310 and the one before that to over 200k. That's not uncommon for them.

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This is why I am so torn with the decision because Hondas do last a very long time and are extremely reliable. It is completely my fault for not taking care of my Honda better. I feel extremely awful and guilty about it. Most people who own Hondas don't give it up when it only has 143,000 miles on the odometer.

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But, you are starting to have major problems. Timing belt, valves leaking, etc. When you start feeding a vehicle for major repairs on a soon to be 17 year old car it’s not worth it. Years ago a person could break down a vehicle for repairs and it would be like new. My dad could tear apart and repair any vehicle before the electronic circuit boards took over.

Are you aware timing belt problems have been a major gripe with Honda owners?

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I didn't know that at all actually but, I didn't see that now that my timing belt has caused a lot of issues for me. :(

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Oh well, we all make mistakes. Just learn from this one and take great care of your next Honda. You'll come to love it as much as you love this one :)

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I think my car is overdue for an oil change. When I had my last one they didn't put a sticker in the window. I think I can go to the receipt and get it there. I take care of my vehicle. It's a Chevy S10 Blazer 1994 with 135K on it. I really can't afford to buy a new car. I was having concern with how it was cranking, but it seems to have fixed itself. Now my muffler is effed up, but I don't really care much. I'm not even sure what it does, other than keep the rig a little quieter.

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I did not know that. I’m a Toyota person. Got my first truck in 2004...Toyota Tacoma Crew Cab. I gave that one to my husband and got a new 2013 Toyota Tacoma Off Road with the towing package. I was making so many trips back and forth from Mississippi to Florida and needed a heavier truck. I would have got the 4 wheel drive (more weight), but it was 3K more in price so no go!

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Toyotas are great cars too. Well made and reliable.

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Sounds like many of the people who've replied aren't very familiar with Hondas. 143k isn't bad.

I've had 2 Hondas and loved them both. The last one finally gave up the ghost at 310k, and I rarely had to have repairs done on it. Best car I've ever had. The other one had rust, probably a car from the east coast, and that caused problems with the radiator and other related issues. Even so, it made it to over 200k.

$1200 sounds like a lot to replace the timing belt and fix leaking valves. Do you trust your mechanic? If you've been good about making sure the oil and water levels are up to where they should be, and you trust your mechanic enough to give you the straight dope on what he thinks your best move is, you may be better off keeping it. If he says it's time to bail, bail.

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I do trust my mechanic completely. He has always helped me throughout the years. He suggested replacing the timing belt a year ago and I unfortunately didn't follow his advice. I feel terrible about that; my poor car. :(

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It's great you've got a mechanic you trust like that. That's invaluable.

I know how you feel. I loved my Honda too.

But in reading all of this, I'm now jumping on the "time to sell and buy a new one" wagon. I think you'd be in for a lot of repairs in the not too distant future, on top of the current repairs. Sorry.

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andreaahr, I also have a 2003 Honda CRV. It's the best car I've ever owned. I go in the dealer a couple times a year for maintenance, oil change, etc. It's worth it!!! Plus the new Hondas don't have a cd player. I don't know why. . .

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They don’t have a CD player? Surely you could request one. I would be lost without mine as I use it when driving back and forth from MS to FL. I have my discs laying on the passenger seat for easy access. I don’t bother with the radio.

Do you suppose the reason they don’t come with a CD player is because so many people Bluetooth their phone to the vehicle? I do that also. It seems it’s going the way of the floppy disc! Also, audio books downloaded onto a mobile can be listened to via Bluetooth. I tried that, but it didn’t work for me...made me drowsy!

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Yes, I think you are right. I like listening to CDs while I'm driving and that's why I'm keeping my 2003 Honda.

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I didn’t look to whom I was replying! That’s what being in a hurry will do. I was giving confirmation of my earlier reply to the OP, so I deleted.

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Some info for you:

http://tbk-garage.timingbeltkit.com/honda-timing-belttiming-chain-complete-list/


BTW, my husband confirmed...throw in the towel. He recalls once the timing belt went we started having more problems.

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I don't think you said what model of car it is, just the make and year. I only skimmed the thread so if you did specify the model, I could have missed it.

One thing you need to investigate is whether your car has a single overhead cam (SOHC) or dual overhead cam (DOHC) engine. If the timing belt fails, the results are different.

When the timing belt fails with a SOHC engine, the various parts of the engine which were formerly working in a coordinated pattern will instead fire separately, without coordinating with each other. In other words, the engine will still operate very briefly, igniting gas in cylinders, etc, but during those few moments it will be fighting against itself. Your engine, with the full force of its raw power, will try to tear itself apart and might well succeed. A *lot* of damage! And of course you'll be stranded by the side of the road afterward.

With a DOHC engine, a timing belt failure will cause the car to immediately die. You'll be stranded, etc. But the problem with the engine tearing itself apart, that can happen with a SOHC engine, doesn't generally happen when the timing belt fails on a DOHC engine. It's very likely that you'll just have to replace the timing belt, then you'd be good to go again.

Neither of those outcomes is guaranteed. It's theoretically possible, I suppose, for a timing belt failure to not damage a SOHC engine. And if a timing belt breaks on a DOHC engine, it's possible for it to do damage in other ways. But what I described above are the most likely outcomes for timing belt failures with those two types of engines.

So, if you're thinking of keeping the car but postponing the repairs ... or just continuing to drive it until you decide what to do ... I'd suggest finding out what kind of engine it has. The financial risk you're taking might be considerably different depending on the engine type; better off knowing what you're chancing.

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Now I'm afraid to drive.

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I just checked our Toyota Tacoma Crew Cab trucks. My husband’s (use to be mine) 2004 is a timing *belt*. My 2013 has a timing *chain*. Whew!

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Toyota makes a quality product.

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