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Bill Maher blasts Stan Lee’s legacy


I kind of agree with him. You have to move on from this kids stuff at some point.

https://pagesix.com/2018/11/17/bill-maher-blasts-stan-lees-legacy/?_ga=2.92228186.1546061236.1537490272-1151748982.1537490272

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Notwithstanding the brilliance of Stan Lee, I agree with Maher too. Liking movies and comics is fine, but then you see the adults in costume and the Comicon devotees and it all kind of looks Peter Panish. Like the adults at Disney who wear the mouse ears and other Disney tack.

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I disagree. Escapism and fantasy are good things. Comics are artwork in their own way. I think when adults read comics they understand them on a deeper level.

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Nonsense. There is no law that says comic books are only for kids. Adults can enjoy comic books, animated shows and movies, stuffed toys, dolls and whatever else they like. I think Maher is being very narrow minded on the subject.

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This guy is a failed actor. Back then he was also a grown-up "playing pretend". Because Married with Children is oh so sophisticated...🙄

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Married with Children was a silly sitcom from 30 years ago. I think the point Maher is making is that this comic book/superhero/video game culture is inhibiting young men from growing up. Croft is exhibit 1.

Besides I don't think they made a Married with Children movie or video game.

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So? It's still silly entertainment. And there are still silly sitcoms for grown-ups today. I don't think it's the comics preventing men from growing up, without them they would still be immature. But I wonder what Maher's excuse is for being an immature, little man. Maybe it's the fact that hardly anyone watches his show.

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A huge problem in Japan by the way. you can't blame it all on video games but I think it's a factor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori

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Yes, I've watched my share of anime.

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I am not even sure what that is.

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I don't agree with Maher on this issue, but seriously you're citing a grand total of ONE appearance on Married with Children as being a "failed actor"?!! That's not even regular enough to call him anything more than a one off guest in that series.

I think you've got it backwards, most comedians don't actually care or aspire first to be actors, they aspire to succeed as comedians. Their profile as comedians gets them offers to tryout for acting gigs, which they'll accept in order to pay the bills while trying to make it as a comedian.

Maher is no exception, as you can tell he never really cared about acting seeing as how he never played another role again soon as he landed his own show in '97. If he really had any aspirations to act, he would have used having his own show to springboard an acting career, or at least try.

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I just listed one example. You would call Murder She Wrote and Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death sophisticated? The list is endless. He's still a grown-up who played pretend in silly entertainment for other grown-ups. The big big difference is that he became a pretentious dick after landing his own show.

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No, I don't think he'd argue they were sophisticated either. Just jobs he took to pay the bills while trying to succeed in his primary career.

It's hard for me to understand Bill's criticism of Stan Lee, because even presuming what he says is true about most adults growing up and moving on, there's still a role for a comic author to play to cater to the child/adolescent audience. FTR, I don't presume that assumption as even true. Criticizing the comic medium for storytelling seems ridiculously petty to me. Trying to blame Stan Lee or the medium for people not growing up, as Maher seems to be trying to imply, is even more preposterous.

I just don't think your criticism of the "sophistication" of his acting roles bears much relevance.

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I think it does. He had no problem contributing to silly entertainment for adults, but is now criticising someone else for doing the same. He's even complaining about its existence! Apparently he has no principles. The man had a cameo in Iron Man 3, for goodness sake. Yes, I'm calling him a hypocrite!

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Comic books and Super Hero movies are awesome and i love them
Bill Maher is an unfunny, judgemental crank
I have Zero respect for this loser



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The only thing worse than adult superheroes is that needling wanker Bill Maher.

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he is giving the perspective of his/my parents generation.

they grew up in a depression, weren't big on clowning around w/ kid stuff.

i get it. i have mixed feelings about maher on various political issues (regarding islam, mainly), but like the fact that he can play the curmudgeon.

someone has to do it.

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Bill Maher was born in 1956. Crushing all our enemies and competitors after WWII, this was boom time for America.
Education is important, stay in school.

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ok, whatever that is all supposed to imply.

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People who rip on comics aren't reading comics. They're incredibly deep and complex on all facets of history, philosophy and human nature. I mean some of it is lol. A lot of it is just dumb fun.

But I do agree with his overall criticisms on "adulting". His argument would be stronger if he focused on video games but he chose the timing of Stan Lee's death just to rile everybody up.

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A good graphic novel can be amazing.

Have you read Fortune and Glory by Brian M Bendis? Its a keeper.

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Negative. I'll look into it.

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It's about Hollywood, so it's very fitting. It's about the first screenplay Bendis sold.

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