Depression, had it for years - General Discussion Discussion

[–] BiffGG (662) 8 years ago

I think that the number of people suffering from depression at least in the US is greatly underestimated. People who suffer are told to "suck it up" but at what cost? Toxic people? They are everywhere and it seems like they never get what is due to them in the way of karma. I have competitors in the business I am engaged in and most of them are crooks. The problem is that if they avoid jail or penalties long enough people just sort of accept them as legit. Politicians are not the only ones who have figured out that the public generally has a short attention span. Drive a new expensive vehicle and you will have followers regardless of how slimy you are.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

Bottling up depression is the worst thing to do. You need to have an outlet!

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[–] Mint Berry Crunch (345) 8 years ago

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 8 years ago

It's not really helpful to blame a mental illness on everyone else or blame it on the world. Especially why blame everything on women when women suffer from depression in even greater numbers than men? They are not the enemy. They weren't born to make YOUR life better. They have their own lives to endure. If you go through life with that mindset (everything is always someone else's fault), it's just going to make it harder to form any connections. I have depression and it's nobody's fault. Not the world's fault, not my fault. Everyone has their own burden to carry and other people are just trying to get through their own lives. If they hurt you, it's usually not intentional, it's usually because they are so focused on their own shit (like you are) that they don't consider everyone else's shit.

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[–] Mint Berry Crunch (345) 8 years ago

It's not blame my little hypocrite kernel. It's stating what the cause and effect of a society gone terribly wrong is. A society which breeds depression. The reason you think it's a mental illness is because you think it's incurable, but it is curable. American society is what is incurable so you're scapegoating and making it a "me" issue, because like you said, you're only focused on yourself.

Ask anyone who is depressed what their problems are and it would be solved nearly instantly by giving them lots of sex, great companionship, healthier food, and some security in life. Things that were easily obtainable before greed and unethical marketing took over and the family was destroyed by the need for a two income household. Depression is a symptom of something much worse.

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 8 years ago

'Ask anyone who is depressed what their problems are and it would be solved nearly instantly by giving them lots of sex, great companionship, healthier food, and some security in life.'

No. I am depressed and those things would not fix it. All the friends I have who have also had depression would not say those things would 'instantly' solve their depression. There are definitely people who expect someone else to make them happy, but you have to love yourself and make yourself happy before you can expect someone else to love you. You're not even really seeing other people as whole people, they are just accessories for your life. Your whole women rant, it shows that you aren't seeing women as whole people, but as tools or accessories for your life, as if they owed you something. And you get angrier and angrier when you think you are being 'denied' something you feel entitled to.
This blame game will not lead anywhere but more isolation. Spend more time empathizing with people and less time at MRA sites that foster this blame game.

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[–] BiffGG (662) 8 years ago

There are plenty of causes for depression but I have to agree with the notion that for many there is a feeling that society and the powers that be feel like a foot crushing a person's throat.

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[–] db20db (17297) 8 years ago

He's a troll and an idiot PK, actually compounding the problem. His supposed "cure" is akin to the preponderance of anti-depressants on the market, 2/3s of which require an additional pharmaceutical as a booster for effectiveness and then there's the side effect of actually " increasing thoughts of suicide " in teenagers, the highest risked group for that behavior.

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[–] Mint Berry Crunch (345) 8 years ago

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

YOU, Sir, are a disgrace. If you are miserable like that, so be it. Don't give us that shit.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

We're all a disgrace, even you. Happy?

I honestly do not see how this proving to be beneficial on a mother effin thread about depression. We are suppose to be supportive here.

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

What the eff? I was not replying to her but to the jerk. Shut up!

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

Oh, and I am not a disgrace. You probably are, because you think so. But there you go. You got your own problems.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

Oh so now you think you are better than someone else do ya? You are definitely the problem!

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 8 years ago

Supportive does not mean agreeing with a completely warped entitled view of the world. That is a whole different issue than depression.
I am supportive of people who aren't full of hate.

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

I am totally supportive of people who aren't full of hate. But please, that "entitlement" thing is real crap, outdated and moronic. Sorry to break it to ya.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

Supportive about trying to overcome depression, like we should be doing.

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 8 years ago

As long as someone views the world and 90% of other people with such hostility, they aren't going to overcome it. Even if someone did do something bad to you, (not you specifically but generalized 'you') , like years ago your parent didn't love you enough or some ex partner cheated on you or whatever, that is normal shit that happens in life and not some cosmic conspiracy. People mostly do the best they can at the time. When they fail, they usually have their own shit going on and it wasn't some deliberate intent to harm you.
Of course there are individuals who do specifically set out to harm others but that is relatively uncommon compared to all the millions of unintended hurts that everyone causes every day.
One of the hardest things to learn in life is that other people are just people, like you. No better, no worse. Just people trying to get through their lives.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

Thanks for the thesis.

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

Hm, you are really something. Since I don't think I am a disgrace, you think I must be better than all of the others that are - in your view - a disgrace. Wow. Did you ever consider visiting a shrink lately?
And as to be supportive to people with depression, it is definitely not helpful what you are writing. It's negative.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

I am counteracting your negativity, which you are making it hard to do. Please just blend in!

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

bla bla bla ....... visit a shrink!!!!!! ...... bla bla bla

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

You are the most depressing jerk ever.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

And like you are not? lol

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

exactly

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

I think you need to seriously take a look at what you say.

You come on here, insult Mint Berry because I am guessing YOU are female. Then I come on, call you out because you are equally disgraceful as anyone else here. You then say that I am unequal to you because I am disgraceful. I mean "WTF?" If you EVER want to be equal, you HAVE TO be equal. No one is going to be OKAY with you saying that you are not a disgrace and the other person, trying to equalize, is.

Now I feel that you have an underlying problem and feel the need to actually care.

Not only that, but Mint Berry is probably going to hate you, PopcornKernel may actually side with you, and all the other depressed people here are most probably not going to be happy that you call them disgraceful and not include yourself.

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

pffff, so much air to be blown off....
and btw I didn't insult Mint Berry.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

Yeah, this was all your fault.

Deal with it!

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

Hahaha, I can live with it. But please, I beg you, see a shrink of your choice someday, ok?

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

Mint Berry is probably one of the biggest trolls on here and now you have me defending him. I honestly have no idea why I even....

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

Because you are no better than him. An idiot of the finest sort.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

OMG!! And you're an idiot too. Welcome to the club!

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

yeah, i love you, too.

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 8 years ago

'Not only that, but Mint Berry is probably going to hate you, '
probably?
Mint Berry already hates everyone.
According to his post: American women are a disgrace and every guy is a psycho.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

He said American women.

He never said any other nationality of women were a disgrace.

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

so what, moron?

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

Yep, that psycho is just a troll.

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

MintBerry is an idiot. True fact. So what? Idiots need to be called idiots. He or she makes stupid claims.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

It's a he

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

wow good to know he could fuck my brains out :) hahaha

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

I will leave you to your fetish. Have a good night!

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

surrendering. nice.

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

You are a truely poor creep. You deserve that title.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

You are certainly putting yourself on the troll list Ms.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

Oh and your written English sucks! ;)

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

Poor you. truly not truely. I know. You suck.

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

Maybe you don't suck but you totally blow? Who knows....

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[–] Terrygg (544) 8 years ago

Talking about depression is depressing.

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[–] kaleidoscope0_0 (483) 8 years ago

Exercise and sunshine are highly underutilized anti-depressants.

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[–] Varadero8 (140) 8 years ago

I do both, but you are what you are ?

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[–] kaleidoscope0_0 (483) 8 years ago

There is value in acceptance. It seems that you are longing for attention and change though.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

What if it is overcast and you are disabled?

HA!

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

I like sunshine. It's perfect. But I don't like exercising. Not at all. So that's not gonna help. So what am I gonna do if I don't live in Florida?

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[–] croft_alice (12180) 8 years ago

Well,if you live on country-side,then are planty things to do😎

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[–] TexasJack (12516) 8 years ago

Try to find an activity where the exercise is incidental, not the main purpose. I enjoy hiking just mainly to be outside and to enjoy natural beauty; the exercise is just a side benefit.

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[–] TexasJack (12516) 8 years ago

So true. I was in a bad state last winter / spring. In late May, I started walking a LOT, like 2 hours per day, every day. It really helped.

Also, gratitude. Being as grateful as you can be for the good things in your life (and even for those things that are now in your past) is a powerful anti-depressant.

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[–] kaleidoscope0_0 (483) 8 years ago

Absolutely, TexasJack. Thank you for sharing your experience and advice.

I know for some people things are complicated, but simple changes can make a difference.

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[–] Varadero8 (140) 8 years ago

Not attention. I struggle with making changes.

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[–] kaleidoscope0_0 (483) 8 years ago

Most of us do. It is a necessary evil if you're feeling stagnant though.

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[–] MortSahlFan (257) 8 years ago

I finally said enough of the forgiveness, and just stopped speaking to the few people I did talk to. I live alone, I don't leave my house unless I have to get food or something.. I try to watch movies and live through imagination.

And it's SO much better... Knowing I don't have to ever be vulnerable again, or bullshitted with is a relief, but after living at least three decades, living becomes the hardest task, so I try to live as hedonistically as possibly. I surely won't put effort into anything I don't want to, regardless of the consequences.

I'd recommend getting a bunch of credit cards (with some interval), max out student loans, travel the world, do whatever you wanted to do.. Then you'll be back to square one, but compared to the old you, you'll have something to make you smile.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 8 years ago

Or do lots of extra work, production work. It is a nice escape.

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[–] birmacat (65) 8 years ago

I am very sorry for you, but this is the WRONG FORUM FOR THIS!!!!

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[–] [deleted] 8 years ago

Nope,this is General Discussion.
"Talk about anything here"
That is what it says.
You can always just scroll past threads that don't interest you?

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[–] Varadero8 (140) 8 years ago

I work shift work. I mainly try and work nites. I spend a ton of time in my bedroom, sleeping and surfing on my tablets. Spend most of my time in my bedroom. It's pathetic I know.

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[–] April-151-CT (10210) 8 years ago

Same here.

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[–] April-151-CT (10210) 8 years ago

Yup. Definitely one in the same.

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[–] Varadero8 (140) 8 years ago

Go to gym, bounce around town using WiFi. 9/10, I don't get outside until 11pm. As far as women. I love them. I just don't have the motivation. I want no drama and headaches. I actually have a good job, I'm kind of messed up.lol

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[–] April-151-CT (10210) 8 years ago

We're all messed up.

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[–] R_Kane (15828) 8 years ago

I've earned an advanced degree in clinical psychology, and I'd like to recommend a couple things that might help many of you. You can find both of these suggestions on Amazon, as well as elsewhere.

One is to look into the works by Anthony Robbins, the motivational speaker. His approach is simple, pragmatic and gets results.

The other is to read the book "Uniquely Human: How To Make Friends With Your Feelings," by my friend and former therapist Jay Uhler (I helped him write it).

Of course, the very best idea is to get yourself some real live therapy. It need not be costly. Make an appointment with a social worker. Did you know that social workers have more clinical training than most psychiatrists?

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