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Retro censoring


Anybody else here fed up to the back teeth of our classic 70s, 80s, and 90s sitcoms being retro-censored by the new breed of puritanical thought police?

It happened again in an episode of "Porridge" yesterday evening when Fletcher's comments about a page three girl were needlessly omitted.

Also in "Sykes", a harmless reference to a black employee at a local washer making factory was unskilfully airbrushed out.
Anything that goes against their cranky, loony, PC brainwashing is so crudely cut out that it makes a nonsense of the whole scene.

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I feel the very same way, Larry! And re: It happened again in an episode of "Porridge" yesterday evening when Fletcher's comments about a page three girl were needlessly omitted. ...I'm American, but I know what a "page 3 girl" is, thanks to my love of all things British and being such a big Jennifer Saunders fan...well, speaking of censorship, did you know that Jennifer Saunders joined campaigns to ban the page 3 girls?! That's how I learned what they were. And, I have to admit that I've lost a lot of respect for her since finding this stiff out. I mean, she's the creator of one of the most politically incorrect shows of all time, and yet, she's apparently prudish, even against internet porn too!

I am still a fan of hers as a comedian. But, as a person, I find her to be a bit of a hypocrite---like a lot of PC people are, it happens.

Please excuse typos/funny wording; I use speech-recognition that doesn't always recognize!

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While I definitely do NOT co-sign on your idea against all PC-inspired retro-censorship, I do detest the broadcasting of shows whose broad comedy gets gutted by any kind of censorship especially to help market it to a supposedly wider audience. I feel that if the content is not appropriate for a certain broadcaster to handle, then they should simply pass on the entire show and air something else they like better.

In a similar way, I hate it when my local "Adult Contempory" music station tries to seem more modern and "hip" by spinning a few Hip-Hop songs that have been "cleaned" for the radio. If you can't air references to guns or the use of certain pejorative terms, that's fine but don't try to seem cool by playing tracks whose message is essentially meant to be provoking and offensive in the first place. Leave the edgy stuff to broadcasters with the guts to air it as written.

Famously, an episode of the britcom Rising Damp was retro-censored long ago due to a specific legal action concerning a guest character that spoofed a real-life politician. They sort of crudely blurred out the man's name on the posters and showed a generic (the candidate) in the end credits. In such a case, it would have been a shame to have lost the entire episode. It was actually deleted from the official archives and is only available now from a copy exported to Canada and retrieved years later. With the minor retro-censorship for legal reasons, it can be seen again.

I don't feel though, that just anything goes on the excuse that it's a classic. Watching housewives getting slapped across the face for comedic effect, even just threatening to do it, makes me cringe on some classic comedies. Also, some britcoms in particular were fairly racist and misogynist as an honest reflection of their era and prevailing thinking in specific caricatures. It was a realistic portrayal of comedy of a certain time. We shouldn't erase it, but, to just air it again without some kind of commentary about that is also wrong in my opinion.

Again, clearly just doctoring out words is an unacceptable general solution - I agree. That just lets the show seem like it was something that it was not and usually ruins the whole joke or concept. On a home video, it's up to each viewer to suit their own taste, but, in a broadcasting situation, there is some kind of responsibility to acknowledge material which may be considered highly offensive by current standards. Sadly, this means that some shows should only be available now for purchase as home videos but in their fully uncut state.

By the way, I think Spielberg totally punked out by changing the guns to walkie-talkies in the re-edited E.T. anniversary discs but it was his personal right to self-censor. TV stations shouldn't air butchered versions of old classics though. That is generally a wrong compromise that serves neither view. If James Cagney had a cigarette hanging from his lip, then leave it alone. No digital erasing allowed. Find a grown up time slot for it or just don't air the movie.

Eeek!!! I'm getting dressed.

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Mymovie, Benny Hill is funnier than both Jennifer Saunders and Monty Python. Watch his great show on DVD or Youtube (lots of pretty girls in his show too).

PS Look, I once saw a movie where this lady nightclub singer smooched with this man in her audience, then the man comes and meets her backstage and she calls him a creep and tells him to get out before she calls her boyfriend and has him beaten up. Now fiction though that is it does ring true. When people are performing they will say and do things sometimes contradictory to what they are like in everyday life. Maybe Saunders only created AF because of some pressure by others around her. Perhaps she made it the way she did due to such pressure. You probably do not know her personally so you most likely cannot say what she is really like. But hey Benny Hill was considered the funniest man in all of the UK in the early 1980's (according to Current Biography of 1983). Why not watch him a lot and see his richly great comic talents and forget all about Saunders. There is bound to be lots of great material of his you have not seen (even if you are already familiar with his show).

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