The Biden-Harris administration joined the ACLU in a radical lawsuit to argue before the Supreme Court that it is a right to medically transition minors. If they win, it could also fundamentally transform understanding of anti-discrimination laws that protect women and girls across the U.S.
Yuck, but does it really go anywhere with about a month and a half left of the Biden Regime? Plus the Supreme Court would have to agree to take the case which I don't see them doing.
Are you suggesting that you are discussing facts by making a sweeping statement that all trans people are hateful? That hasn’t been my experience from the trans people I’ve met. Your opinions on various matters however has displayed a vigorous hateful attitude towards several groups of people, not just transgender folk.
Ooh getting under your skin now, clearly. What you’re actually saying there is AGREE WITH ME OR LEAVE but unfortunately for you that’s not how a forum works.
I haven’t changed the subject at all, you just asked why trans people are so hateful yet the person displaying a hateful attitude is yourself. I have every right to point that out and you have none to order me out of your thread when it doesn’t go down the way you want.
Who is my side? You don’t know me or who I support politically. You are assuming because I think you’re a small minded bigot that I’m part of a woke movement which is false.
I’m perfectly calm. No tantrums here at all.
Did you even notice that my first comment here was voicing the opinion that I personally DISAGREE with allowing sex change procedures to be performed on children?
See that’s the type of emotionally charged rhetoric that may impress someone with less intelligence, but it doesn’t work on me, so you can save it.
I know not everyone on the left is performing sex reassignment surgeries on children as per your suggestion, or even advocating for it. Just as many on the left oppose trans athletes competing in women’s sports.
Your simplistic generalisations are hollow and solve nothing.
“The left” suggests everyone who isn’t on the right. I don’t know why this particular proposal has been floated but to me, personally, it’s not something I agree with. You’re asking me to speak towards something I have no involvement in, surely even someone of your limited comprehension skills can understand that’s an impossible question for me to answer.
My question regarding whether you know any trans people yourself is rather more straightforward though, and yet you refused to provide an answer. I wonder why. Possibly because it would illuminate the fact that your rhetoric is coming from an entirely uneducated place with no lived experience to support your obvious agenda.
Go ahead though, ask the question again and make sure you put the words left, children and cutting genitals off in succession for maximum horrific effect.
What about young girls who wish to transition to boys, are you forgetting about them in your crusade?
Why are you even on MovieChat? You never talk about movies at all. You just post inflammatory political shit, bigoted stuff trying to incite discrimination against minorities and the like.
You are denying you’re bigoted? Even with your singularly minded posting history as evidence for all to see? Come on. If anything is retarded, it’s that claim.
They’ve been told repeatedly by the left that they don’t have to be accountable for their actions and that it’s OK for them to treat people without one ounce of the respect that they are somehow by default entitled to.
What are they classing as minors though? I definitely think it’s a slippery slope to advocate for transitioning children before they are emotionally mature enough to make that huge decision, even with consent of the parents.
Good thing you responded when you dont even know whats happening. They are operating on children all over the country. Half the states had to pass bans to stop them from cutting childrens genitals off.
Well you could have just answered my question. I think it’s a complicated issue and I will admit I don’t have the scientific knowledge to understand why a person suffers from gender dysphoria or why they feel compelled to transition. It’s a condition I’m grateful I don’t suffer myself because I could imagine it would be an emotionally and mentally crippling experience. Especially when people are so cruel towards people who do as evidenced daily here on this forum.
I have known trans people who seem quite intelligent and kind though. Good people who don’t seem to have any intention to harm others.
As I said originally though I think performing irreversible surgical procedures on children seems like a dangerous practice to advocate for. Again though, I don’t have the knowledge or understanding to pretend that my opinion is the last word on the matter.
So what, are you waiting for some "study" to come out that is suddenly and magically going to make irreversible surgical procedures on children make sense? Do you really have that much inherent brainrot or are you just a spineless, habitual fence-sitter?
See, this is a problem - the agenda of trying to gatekeep common sense behind some contrived concept of "expertise" in a particular area.
I don't need to be an expert in human anatomy to know that when I prick a finger, it bleeds. And I don't need to be an expert in "gender dysphoria" to know that a child can't logically or ethically consent to having perfectly healthy parts of their body chopped off and mutilated, or taking puberty blockers that will permanently affect their physiology.
Ick. Every time I hear someone dismiss lgbt people as groomers, knowing that I’ve never in my 40+ years met a gay or trans person guilty of such a disgusting crime, I always wonder if it’s just deflection.
Probably because 80% of adult males who molest boys don’t identify as gay, most are married and have children of their own.
I’d be more inclined to ask why, when the ratio of molestation agsinst girls and boys is estimated at 11:1, do people always insinuate homosexual men are the perpetrators when talking about grooming. While everyone is ignoring that the REAL groomers are not sitting behind the teacher’s desk but lurking behind keyboards and fake profiles on social media.
I care, especially when the insinuation is that openly homosexual men can’t be trusted around children. It’s deflection and a really shitty way to perpetuate an anti-gay agenda.
You do understand that the vast majority of child abuse victims are girls, don’t you? Gonna pin that one on the fags too?
Hey Mel T (schizzo spice) don’t try your two dollar reverse psychology tactics on me, they might work on some of your less intellectually sturdy opponents but I can see through it like looking through a freshly cleaned window.
Yeah I have long been a critic of the Catholic Church and its eternal covering up of abuse by priests, if you’d ever bothered to ask. Where’s my defence? Show me clever man. I’ll wait.
I’ve earned the right to use the term fag and reclaim it from knuckle draggers such as your fine self. Takes some of the intended sting out when it’s fired my way. Problem with that? Take it up with someone who will listen.
There it is - the rage dumping of someone who’s wrong and can’t admit it.
You’re welcome to ‘ignore’ me, I’ll keep pointing out where you’re wrong. The things you run away from are far more interesting and revealing than the drivel you write.
Your whataboutism still doesn’t change the fact that drooling Catholic priests always select boys to diddle.
Someone will see my post above and try to convince me that the priests doing all the molesting are actually heterosexual pedophiles and not homosexual pedophiles. 😂
try to convince me that the priests doing all the molesting are actually heterosexual pedophiles and not homosexual pedophiles.
Oh dear. We have been here before and there's little chance that you are open to persuasion. But for anyone else: the LGBTQ grooming conspiracy theory is a far-right conspiracy theory and anti-LGBTQ trope alleging that LGBTQ people, and those supportive of LGBTQ rights, are engaging in child grooming and enabling child sexual abuse. Although the belief that LGBTQ individuals are more likely to molest children has no basis in fact, this stereotype has existed for decades in the United States and Europe, going back to before World War II.
I did, just above. The Grooming Conspiracy theory is just as applicable to priests as to any other part of the homosexual community. There is no denying that a good number of homosexuals are in the RC Church (or the churches generally, come to that) but correlation is not cause. The belief that LGBTQ individuals are more likely to molest children has no basis in fact.
Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation
Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals... Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. .. Reflecting the results of these and other studies, as well as clinical experience, the mainstream view among researchers and professionals who work in the area of child sexual abuse is that homosexual and bisexual men do not pose any special threat to children.
Sorry; that was more aimed at a proper grown up person, but I hope you managed to understand anyway. No more from me here; it has all been said before and yet you still lazily wheel out the same tired and disreputable anti-gay stereotypes. It is good enough for some of the bigots on this board, but in the real world it is demonstrably false.
I have never said homosexuals are more likely to molest children. So stop with the straw arguments. Run along now I'm not interested in another dumbass exchange with you.
I have never said homosexuals are more likely to molest children.
"try to convince me that the priests doing all the molesting are actually heterosexual pedophiles and not homosexual pedophiles.." i.e. you think that those doing all the molesting are homosexual pedophiles.
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Because there's a high number of gays who infiltrated the Church back in the day. That's why today they aren't allowed to be priests. If there is the slightest hint they might be gay they aren't allowed in...that is straight from Pope Francis.
I'm going to be 59 in 8 months and I was a child of the 70's and 80's and we never ever heard this kind of talk growing up, never had a desire to change our sex for Christ sake!! WTF is wrong with today's youth?? Perhaps Obama should've clarified his speech back in 2012 better when he said you can be anything you want to be and no one can stop you or something to that affect and what he should've said was, you can be a Doctor, a Lawyer, a Race car driver, even President of the U.S, not self mutilating because you can't distinguish whether sporting a Dick & Testicles makes you a male or not. 🙄
Seems like it should be very easy to say “no gender changing medical procedures on children” without qualification and loopholes. We sure had no problem banning children from smoking cigarettes and getting tattooed.
The movement for transgender rights in the United States has been ongoing since the 1960s, but some key events include:
1959
Christine Jorgensen, a trans woman, was denied a marriage license in New York
1976
The Superior Court of New Jersey ruled in M.T. v. J.T. that trans people could marry based on their gender identity
1980
The ACLU of Southern California established the Transsexual Rights Committee
1999
Trans activist Monica Helms designed the transgender pride flag
2015
The Supreme Court ruled in Obergefell v. Hodges that people have the right to marry regardless of sex
2020
The Supreme Court ruled in R.G. & G.R. Harris Funeral Homes Inc. v. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission that title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 protects transgender people from employment discrimination
Other events that have impacted transgender rights include:
The ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution in 1868
The ACLU's work in the late 1960s to persuade the California Supreme Court to strike down an ordinance that barred performers from "impersonating" a person of the opposite sex
The Obama Administration's removal of a ban on transgender members of the military serving openly in 2015
The legal and regulatory history of transgender people in the United States covers many areas, including:
Changing names or sex on legal documents
Protection against discrimination in employment, civil rights, and equal protection
Medicare and Social Security benefits
Transition-related healthcare rights in the workplace
Marital rights
Military service conditions
Medical malpractice
Restroom access
Housing discrimination
Interesting timeline. Shield yourself though bro, a benign presentation of facts is quite likely to get you tarred and feathered ‘round these parts, y’hear?!
But if everything you listed is true, how come we never heard about this or these cases?? Why?? Why is it taken over 50 years to bring this abnormal bullshit out?? Why??
How come YOU never heard of it, surely you mean. Why speak for all others?
I grew up in Australia (or redneck wonderland, if you will) and even I was aware. One of the most famous media figures/celebrities was a trans woman by the name of Carlotta. Started off as the star of a very famous drag revue called Lés Girls in the 1960s, and I think may have been one of the earliest successful sex reassignment patients in the world. Definitely the first to star in a prime time TV show (called Number 96). Anyway, yeah, it was definitely a thing for a long time and most people hid it because, you know, society and shit. 🤷♂️
This is Johanna Olson-Kennedy of the Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles
@ChildrensLA
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She specializes in chemically castrating and m*tilating children. She’s now being sued by a former patient.
After just 1 visit, 12-year-old Clementine was approved for puberty blockers. She was then put on cross-s*x hormones at age 13, and got a double mastectomy at 14.
It’s time to hold all these “doctors” accountable!!! Trump is going to take all these evil crazy bitches down.