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Constitutional Crisis if Biden Dies/Resigns Before Election and PRESIDENT Harris wins?

posted 4 months ago by christomacin (4657)
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Of course, Harris (presumably) would have to win for this to matter, but what if:
1. Biden dies, or has a stroke and must resign.
2. Vice President Harris gets sworn in as President.
3. President Harris puts forward her VP pick for Congress's confirmation by simple majority.
4. The Senate confirms Harris's VP, but the House doesn't.
5. The House delays the vote and uses the confirmation hearings as political theater.
6. Harris beats Trump in the election.
7. The election is disputed by the GOP.
8. Without an acting VP, who officially presides over certification and finalizes the election?
9. Would Speaker of the House Johnson be next in line as President with no VP?

[–] [deleted] 4 months ago

The democrat party right now has no use for joe biden. I don't think biden will die, but i think that democrats want to impeach him. they want kamala in the white house now.

So can they either spend 4 months saying how amazing she is doing and/or they'll create some kind of "event" which they could use maybe to show how amazing kamala has dealt with it or maybe something even more sinister.

But all things being equal, no fraud.. i don't think even the most optimistic democrat believes kamala can win.

[–] moviechatterer (15662) 4 months ago

i don't think even the most optimistic democrat believes kamala can win.
You're joking?
The only thing giving Trump any chance was that Biden was old and sleepy.
now thats gone.

[–] [deleted] 4 months ago

does this come from the same source that said trump was terrified of debating biden? and clinton would get 97% of the vote!?

like with your pronouns and genders, you loons have no concept of reality.

[–] moviechatterer (15662) 4 months ago

It was disappointing to find Joe asleep at the wheel in that debate for sure, Trump just got lucky
All he does is call out bullshit falsehoods for his crowd to bark at at his love-ins.

And it was no different in the debate, so once he gets , as I say , a grown up in there , who is not asleep , and who he is not allowed to shout over , or have his audience whooping in the background
... it will not go well for him.
HENCE his efforts to chickenshit his way out of this next one.

[–] [deleted] 4 months ago

How is you guys running a candidate who is clearly ridden with dementia and who knows what else "lucky" ??

The MSM and people like you spent 3 years telling us that any questions about bidens health were "far right conspiracy theories"

I'm one of the only republicans who actually doesn't hate or blame biden for anything, because i know the poor guy hasn't made one single decision for the last 3 and half years.

But if he was the best guy you could put up and you couldn't see how messed up he was, then from here on out then i have to question your judgement on EVERYTHING.

it was too obvious.

[–] moviechatterer (15662) 4 months ago

He wasnt "the best guy you could put up" as far as I'm concerned, he just seemed to already have first refusal due to being pres already. I said he should have got the hell out of the way years ago.

Thats not because I feel he's incompetent or senile , he just isnt sprightly or sharp enough to bat away Trumps continual barrage of playground insults.
Which means he cant sell it - the dem party.
They should have got someone 30 years younger in two years ago - anyone will do really , just someone with democrat ideas who stand up to Trumps inane blatherings and call him out on it - it cant be that hard.

[–] [deleted] 4 months ago

I agree, i was shocked that they even let him debate. it was insane.

But my point is, 95% of dems have believed that biden was completely fine and that questioning his health was some far right conspiracy and crazy nonsense.

But he must have been the best guy because he was the candidate, right!?

What im saying is, is that theres a huge lack of common sense within the democrat party, kamala can't beat trump! kamala can't debate him.

And thats not a personal bias thing, thats not a "i'm a republican so all dems are dummies"

it's the truth, i'm clearly a republican, but although i dislike obama and bill clinton, even hillary... these people know how to speak, to sell their ideas, theres a level of intelligence. theres political nuance....

To believe kamala is in anyway intelligent is just the same as believing that biden has the mind of a 28 year old.

if you don't think that biden has dementia then you're in trouble! its not worth going back and forth if you put down the events of the last few years to being "not as sprightly"

you can dislike trump all you want, fine, but if you're really really honest with yourself you know he wouldn't call zelensky "president putin"

[–] ewd76 (1194) 4 months ago

No way Republicans will allow Biden to be impeached now.

[–] jriley555 (8130) 4 months ago

If you are asking if the MAGAts would take any/every opportunity to fuck up the peaceful, lawful transfer of power,

the answer is OF COURSE.

[–] CraigC (8218) 4 months ago

You fucktards already set the stage, win at all costs.

[–] itsbananas2024 (1787) 4 months ago

"MAGAts would take any/every opportunity to fuck up the peaceful, lawful transfer of power"

Im still waiting for the right to riot and burn down buildings since july 13th. Whats up with that? I mean these people are unhinged and in a cult right?

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 4 months ago

Exactly, any chance they can get or scheme they can make us they will try to rip this country apart.

[–] SemiAnimus (2404) 4 months ago

What the hell are you on about?

There is a clear, established chain of who would become President now if this occurs. Then the election would happen, as usual.

The end.

[–] christomacin (4657) 4 months ago

VP Mike Johnson? He'd be next in line, sure, but he'd be putting himself in that office if the party that he leads choses not to confirm her pick. He'd also be the one certifying the vote, if he's acting VP. What happens in the meantime? How is that not a Constitutional crisis?

I just wanted to know if the GOP did this would conservatives support it. I have my answer.

[–] SemiAnimus (2404) 4 months ago

What you're saying doesn't matter. This has already been explicitly accounted for and there is no confirmation required when transitioning to the next in line for President. Then the election would take place as usual in November. You are confused here and are inserting a nonexistent confirmation process into the line of succession.

[–] christomacin (4657) 4 months ago

25th Amendment: (as per Gerald Ford, 1973, appointed VP by 2/3"majority)

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Sounds pretty existent to me.

[–] SemiAnimus (2404) 4 months ago

I'm not sure why I put VP instead of President when the OP was referring to the President and I was as well, but yes you are correct.

As in real life 99% of the time, the VP here doesn't matter and even if one was never confirmed the Presidential election would be business as usual. The Speaker of the House, then acting as VP, certifies the election.