Hurr Durr White People food so bland π€£ππ€£
Love PJW!
https://youtu.be/BxddLo7bPlU?si=rOZI21V4ZuVDiWDX
I mean I'd much rather have authentic Chinese food cooked in gutter oil.
It is true that Asia has superior cuisine to most white countries though.
shareWhat's a "White Country"?
England, America, France for example (without taking immigration into account).
shareIndigenous Americans aren't white. Ditto Indigenous Australians.
If you're not including immigration, then you're not including Europeans who immigrated to those countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Michelin_3-star_restaurants
shit "white countries" win again
number of 3 michelin star restaurants
"white countries" - 100 restaurants
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I see you are new. You'll just have to ignore blacksurn, one of the most prominent (and prolific) racists on here, or put it on ignore if you don't suffer fools.
shareWhat the hell is a "white" country.
Also, Italian Food > Asian food. And it's not even close.
By Italian, I mean authentic Italian food, not Italian-American food. Which is still good too, but I meant Italy.
How much of Italian cuisine originated from Arabs, Africans and Asians? For instance, pasta is Chinese. Ditto ice cream. Ditto pizza.
shareFor instance, pasta is Chinese.
This is a popular misconception that is not supported by the evidence.
While it is often claimed that Marco Polo brought pasta from China to Italy, historical evidence suggests that pasta was already present in Italy before Marco Polo's travels in the 13th century (Serventi, S., et al., 2002). Pasta most likely developed independently in the regions of Southern Europe, in regions we now call Italy, while also independently being developed in Asia and other parts of the world, or that pasta had already been developed independently in ancient civilizations even before that time (Serventi, S., et al., 2002).
However, even if Italian pasta was Chinese (which itβs not), tomatoes, a staple of Italian food, originally came to Italy from Mexico via Spain (Smith, A. F., 1994). Furthermore, it is possible that rice came to Europe through the Arab conquests, or as previously stated above, that rice developed independently in ancient civilizations even before that time (Gentilecore, D., 2010).
To your point: Italian cuisine, like virtually all modern-day cuisines, has been influenced from other parts of the world. For example, Japanese tempura is Portuguese (Miller, M., 2023; Hosking, R., 2002), and Filipino spaghetti is largely Spanish and Italian influenced (Fernandez, D. G., 1994).
Regardless, I was referring to modern-day Italian food from Italy, which is very, very different than what most people normally consider Asian food.
Sources:
Fernandez, D. G. (1994). Tikim: Essays on Philippine Food and Culture. Anvil Publishing.
Gentilecore, D. (2010). Pomodoro!: A History of the Tomato in Italy. Columbia University Press. [https://doi.org/10.7312/gent15206]
Hosking, R. (2002). At the Japanese Table. Oxford University Press.
Miller, M. (2023). Tasting History with Max Miller: Japan & the Portuguese Barbarians [Video]. YouTube. [https://youtu.be/UpBv8H0G6ZY?si=TbGnlkS-LjXnkSLg]
Serventi, S., Sabban, F., & Shugaar, A. (2002). Pasta: The Story of a Universal Food. Columbia University Press. [https://doi.org/10.7312/serv12442]
Smith, A. F. (1994). The Tomato in America: Early History, Culture, and Cookery. [https://archive.org/details/tomatoinamericae00smit_0/page/n245/mode/2up]
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I'm just pointing out the irony that Italian cuisine originated from Asia. Arabia is in Asia, too.
True. Plenty of delicious food came from the Americas, too. The world would be a sadder place without chocolate, popcorn, corn on he cob, pizza and french fries.
An important part of what would make Italian food better than Italian-American is quality produce from their farms. I plan to go to Italy and get fat.
Italian cuisine originated from Asia. Arabia is in Asia, too.
Respectfully, I believe I made it fairly clearβsupported well by scholarly researchβthat Italian food did not originate in Asia. Yes, Arabia is in Asia too, but that still doesn't mean that Italian food is Asian. Also, your original claim was that Italian "pasta is Chinese". I'm not trying to be pedantic; however, I spent considerable time writing my previous reply to you, and I don't want my words to be misconstrued
I plan to go to Italy and get fat.
I somehow get thinner whenever I'm in Europe. Part of it is surely from all the walking around, but I do think some of it has to do with the higher quality of food. I'm not sure what country you're in, but they have more consumer protections and regulations on food ingredients than we have where I live in the US. Regardless, I hope you enjoy your time there; it's a great country. share
Pasta is a food. Pasta originated in Asia.
We can both agree that Italians prepare it differently from Asians. That doesn't negate the above two statements.
Yes, the U.S. has a much lower quality standard in regard to food.
"I'm just pointing out the irony that Italian cuisine originated from Asia. "
Thats like pointing out that an Italian Ferrari originated in a 1890 german design for the first car and metal that originated underground in africa.
ie Italians have made pasta their own.
Pasta still originated in Asia. Stop trying to steal someone's history.
sharewell if you want to take that to its logical extreme - all human life originated in Africa
...so they get the credit for everything
Stop trying to steal someone's history.
from the clown who argued taking a english folklore store and changing all characters to black was okay. then when i said braids have been in white culture tried to change it to cornrows.
https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/64f07a0055e301227199a9d5/More-culturally-appropriating-and-replacing-European-culture?reply=64f0e54155e301227199ad34 share
There's a push to give credit to blacks/Africans for all kinds of things. When they say black, they mean sub-Saharan Africans. Pretty big thing over in the UK apparently. Of course, credit for building Stonehenge but not slavery and colonizing. Here are a few things.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12534611/Stonehenge-built-Britain-black-country-new-childrens-book-claims.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/queen-cleopatra-black-egypt-netflix-series-rcna81924
Living without black inventions debunked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqpqs9e7lGw
Aboriginal Australians responsible for modern flight.
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20230818-did-australias-boomerangs-pave-the-way-for-flight
Africans there from the start in Gret Britain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M-qsVS8zeU
Joe Biden says black man invented the lightbulb/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_boHhcMDOr4
Everything you know about Africans is from Tarzan movies.
shareProbably more historically accurate than some of the baloney out there.
shareYou started a racist topic. No surprise!
sharenice dodge. keelai bitching out as usual.
wait so let me get this straight
keelai "Pasta still originated in Asia. Stop trying to steal someone's history."
Meanwhile robin hood originating in english as folklore
keelai "yaa change it do whatever swap races and bastardize the story. its not stealing others history or cultural appropriation"
you are as inconstant as the crazy conservatives on here.
you are as
"I'm just pointing out the irony that Italian cuisine originated from Asia. Arabia is in Asia, too."
repeating a baseless assertion Vince proved wrong with 6 different sources, doesnt magically make it true
You are illiterate and can't count.
The consensus by historians is pasta was invented in Asia. Some guy on youtube isn't credible.
Italians are not white. Italians are a mediterranean people. Germanic people are the only white people.
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