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Why doesn't Europe have such problems with trans-violence?

posted 2 years ago by Skavau (15993)
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Currently there's a spate of threads and users here warning of potential trans-violence intensifying. In the UK we have debates about transwomen in changing rooms here, and certainly transwomen in sport - and there's an active terf LGB movement (anti-trans attitudes in the USA are primarily evangelical christian derived in original - socially conservative, the UK being primarily non-religious now - that doesn't work, so it's trans-exclusionary radical feminists - although they sometimes associate with hard-right evangelical groups in the USA)

But with all that, why isn't the UK, France, Germany, Scandinavia, Low countries etc being hit by pro-trans violence if its phenomenon is inevitable? Why would it ONLY be an American thing?

Yet generally, Europe is more liberal on this than USA.

[–] B1cKsurN (17628) 2 years ago

Because wokism is an American export. It's coming, don't worry.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 2 years ago

What are you on about? We have "wokism" here. We have transpeople here. It enters the public discourse.

The UK public is more progressive than the US on a ton of issues. We're overwhelmingly pro-abortion access, pro gay marriage (and we legalised it before you). We're much less religious too.

[–] B1cKsurN (17628) 2 years ago

We have "wokism" here.

Which is hilarious because none of it's ahistorical, revisionist history BS even applies to Europe. You can thank the US for that insanity.

The UK

Isn't Londonistan the knife murder capitol of planet Earth?

Quit while you're ahead.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 2 years ago

>Which is hilarious because none of it's ahistorical, revisionist history BS even applies to Europe. You can thank the US for that insanity.

In what way is it specifically "ahistorical"?

>Isn't Londonistan the knife murder capitol of planet Earth?

Not even close: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country

[–] B1cKsurN (17628) 2 years ago

All of CRT/Wokeism is ahistorical revisionist history because it DIDN'T HAPPEN. It's all lies, and relies on stupid to be believed.

OMG, from the article you obviously didn't even read...
Knife Violence in Europe
Stabbing deaths and injuries are more common in Europe than in the Americas. Particularly in northern Europe, where levels of knife crimes among young people have increased and made headlines. Deaths by sharp objects are especially noticeable in the 15-19 and 20-24 age groups in Northern and Western European countries. The proportion of knife deaths is about three times greater than firearm deaths in these countries for the 20-24 age group. Between 2002 and 2007, hospital admissions for assault by a knife or sharp object increased by 34%. One high-profile example of homicide by knife in Europe occurred in 2013, when a 13-year-old girl was stabbed to death in the United Kingdom. Her death sparked anti-knife campaigns throughout the U.K.

Knife crime is well-known in UK and is insanely disproportionate, and NYC pales by comparison. But sure, guns are a unique problem and no other countries have a similar issues with other weapons... 🙄🙄🙄

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[–] Skavau (15993) 2 years ago

Ignoring that knife crime is only one type of crime, and not all crime (where every major US city is worse than UK cities overall) - the data you're referring to is outdated. The US murder rate is flat-out worse than the UKs.

https://www.euronews.com/2019/06/18/deadly-knife-crime-how-does-london-compare-to-new-york

"More recent police data is available for both cities, including a direct comparison for the calendar year 2018. The official estimated population of New York was 8,398,748 at July 1, 2018, and 9,006,352 for London.

The NYPD murder total for the year was 295 — less than half the figure for 2001 and a fraction of 2,200 victims counted in 1990 — giving a rate of 3.5 per 100,000. In London, there were 136, giving a rate of 1.5, so New York remains twice as deadly despite a successful decades-long crime crackdown.

Within this, there were 76 homicides attributed to cutting or stabbing in New York — the exact same number as in London, according to data from Murdermap. But New York’s rate is slightly higher, at 0.9 compared to 0.8 in London. It means the Big Apple is still deadlier for knife attacks, but the pattern of recent years suggests that could be reversed very soon."

[–] Skavau (15993) 2 years ago

I love the total lack of engagement with this thread.

[–] B1cKsurN (17628) 2 years ago

If your topic is stupid and irrelevant, expect no engagement.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 2 years ago

The point is that people are claiming that transpeople are an inherent danger. Yet we don't see this phenomenon in Europe.

Why is this?

[–] Redsfan001 (6187) 2 years ago

When a new horrific incident occurs, people naturally think it is a harbinger of things to come.

The same happened after 9/11 here in the United States. But we had over 20 years without a major terrorist incident. Nobody would have believed that if you told them in 2002.

Personally, I think that the incident was a one-off and so grotesque that pro trans-activists cannot label her a "hero", and will not be emulated.

[–] B1cKsurN (17628) 2 years ago

So the "Day of Vengeance" is happening as planned...

The last 5 Mass Shooters in 2023 alone all have identified as trans or non-binary. This isn't the start... the start was in January.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 2 years ago

>The last 5 Mass Shooters in 2023 alone all have identified as trans or non-binary. This isn't the start... the start was in January.

This seems like bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Monterey_Park_shooting (72 year old man)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_the_Haight_family (family murder-suicide)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Half_Moon_Bay_shootings (asian man)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Goshen_shooting (gang violence)

These, other than the Covenant School shooting are the deadliest shootings so far this year.

[–] Redsfan001 (6187) 2 years ago

The awful combination of recent events and the poorly named protest on Apr 1 has not helped elicit empathy for their cause.

I see further violence by pro-trans radicals as unlikely.

You would be surprised at capacity and scope of online monitoring and infiltration of radicals by U.S. government authorities. If there is a constant in all this, is that this ability is severely underestimated.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

We don't have such problems with *any* violence, because, wait for moment...bum...BUM...BUMMMB! We don't have *GUNS*.

[–] B1cKsurN (17628) 2 years ago

100% bullshit unless you live in Iceland.

Where are you? Lets focus the microscope a bit...

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

You have it, its just not the focus. European countries are dealing with migrant issues moreso at the moment. Trans violence is rare here due to the actual number being low. It's just boasted more by the media for ratings.

[–] Skavau (15993) 2 years ago

How do we have it (in terms of trans-violence)? Examples please.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Just like any group, there's violence. I have no example as it's not reported, but most likely it's small stuff like domestic violence or assault.

That's what it was here prior to the shooting and we witnessed similar stuff in Austria in 2010.

[–] Skavau (15993) 2 years ago

But is it uniquely worse per head than other groups. That's the point. Posters on here are arguing transpeople are innately inclined to violence.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

That's just people believing that news is reality. It's not. It's just cherrypicking to get ratings or promote a narrative.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 2 years ago

What in the hell are you babbling about?