title says it all. where are all the concerned fiscal hawks?
I constantly see "why do I have to pay taxes for their wars". where is the outrage and anger over Iraq and afganistan cost??
how is 45 billion to help an ally horrible, but 6.5 trillion for an illegal invasion and failed war great?
Because if Republicans do it it's good, and liberals do it it's bad.
shareBecause Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Remember Trump was impeached because of the actions of Joe Biden.
shareimpeachment 1: (1) abuse of power, and (2) obstruction of Congress,in its investigation of the President's conduct regarding Ukraine
impeachment2: "incitement of insurrection" in urging his supporters to march on the Capitol building
hey think if they repeat their lies its true. daddy trump has taught them that if they just believe misinformation hard enough everyone else will be swayed by their "alternative facts"
shareLOLL what? not trump was impeached because he tried to withhold aid to blackmail a country to find political dirt on an opponent.. and your historical reimagination won't change that sweetie
shareTrump was impeached because he wanted Ukraine-related corruption exposed. Corruption that would've impugned Biden, Clinton and Obama. You liberal fucktards always leave out the "why". Why do you support corruption?
sharecorruptions? like removing the corrupt prosecutor and have it replaced with the better one? that's corruption?
shareSo Biden wanted to remove a corrupt prosecutor who was looking into his sons legitimate busirma energy deal and replace him with a legitimate prosecutor who would look.the other way...ha ha ha ha ha
So the new legit prosecutor is continuing the burisma investigation??
Ha ha ha
No... by literally every single account, the new prosecutor was far less corrupt and would be looking into things like bidens son
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden–Ukraine_conspiracy_theory
oh you mean this. frig you conservatives need mass mental health services immediately
So how is the new prosecutor doing with the Hunter investigation?
Prosecutor wants to look into the Bidens and their energy deal and he is corrupt?
..ha ha ha ha ha
What a dumb excuse.
its an "excuse" literally everyone know knows about the previous and current prosecutor said.
nice addressing your conspiracy theory though
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Do you think Iraq and Afghanistan are free from corruption?
shareDoes Putin pay you to post his lying propaganda, or do you do it for free?
shareThe outrage happened for almost 20 years starting in 2003, where the fuck have you been?
How old are you?
yes the outrage of the LEFT. who you guys called traitors the entire time. then it was revealed Iraq was based on a lie you went dead silent.
should I go find the Fox News stories and videos on how they covered the protestors and anyone who criticized the war?
where the hell have you been? stop trying to reimagine history. nobody is buying it and its well documented.
the right only turned slightly on bush once daddy Trump told them to.
Comparing people's political leanings from 20 years ago to now, is egregiously bad faith bro.
Were you even alive in 2003? I'm guessing no. You're most likely an edgy-teen lord, and have no real clue about anything before 2005 unless you read it on HuffPo or Slate.
How old are you?
hahahahahahah no you are changing what was said. you said they were mad and where have I been for 20 years. meaning they were mad this whole time
THEY weren't against it. what you wrote is right there idiot you aren't fooling me.
nice change of subject. ill take that as you losing. what is with you and Craigc the town clown desperately changing the subject when destroyed.
When it comes down to it conservatives figured out Bush was a piece of shit and liberals figured out Obama was a piece of shit. Logical lefty is neither. Just an agitator
shareI agree.
Based on his inane, contriving, redundant ranting, and the non-stop name calling, along with the competitiveness and the incessant need to win; I suspected the same. He/she seems to be a very disturbed teenager that is self-medication or in need of some.
says the person who calls everyone a socialist. have you finally looked at that chart again? and figured out everyone on the left isn't a socialist?
yes im very disturbed because I called you out on your embarrassingly poor knowledge of political ideology.
I'm calling "YOU" a socialist because you are a "leftist". Yes, the very chart that provides clear evidence that a "socialist" like you is on the left of the chart. You are leftist and 100% a socialist...as per the graph.
BTW, there is absolutely nothing logical about a "leftist", so your username is an absolute oxymoron.
yes and communist, progressivism, liberals is also on the left of the chart. meaning all people on the left aren't socialist.
holy ive never encountered someone with such an acute case of retardation
yes and communist, progressivism, liberals is also on the left of the chart. meaning all people on the left aren't socialist.
and the chart would show anarcho capitalism on the right, ergo, all people on the right are anarcho capitalists.
please please please tell me you aren't this dumb. im not kidding. you have severe mental retardation if this is the case.
if all socialism is on the left, so everyone on the left is a socialist. then all cats are mammals, and all mammals are cats. right??
you've never heard of syllogisms or Aristotle I see.
Prove that a leftist is not socialist or that a socialist is not on the left...wait, you already tried and failed miserably since the graph shows that "socialism" is on the left. Your syllogism doesn't apply...typical inept leftist strawman rhetoric.
shareSending them aid instead of going there and fighting the war seems to be pretty cost effective.
shareAsshole terrorists from Afghanistan killed 3000 Americans, destroyed the World Trade Center and caused billions in damages and other losses. Losses we continue to pay for to this day.
A tyrant in Iraq, also a terrorist sanctuary, used up all his chemical weapons on his own people. Where's your compassion for hundreds of thousands of dead Kurds?
Russia invaded Ukraine, which is also Russia. Funny you thought it was okay for Lincoln to invade the South but not okay for Putin to invade an estranged part of his country?
Ukraine is not an ally of the US. It is where the Biden, Clinton and Obama crime families' dirty money comes from.
wait wait... you didn't know Saddam literally fought and killed al Qaeda........................................which terrorists were he harbouring?
everything you said was an exaguration and lie.
how can I correct so much stupidity
how can I correct so much stupidity
so as usual you divert from the points. you have lost the argument as you always do
shareSaddam illegally invaded Kuwait and was committing mass murder. For that his country was invaded.
shareohhh so now Iraqi freedom was about Kuwait! I thought it was about WMD's!. no that changed to spreading democracy. I can't keep up with all the conservative lies!
ill admit estimates are all over the place. but the lowest estimates show the Iraqi death tolls were 150k to as high as 1 million. with most settling on 500kish
while estimates of Kurds Saddam killed were 50-100K
so if Addams the bad guy for killing 100k Kurds, what's america in Iraq??
are we going to invade every oppressive dictatorship? whens Saudi Arabias turn?
You condone the Kuwait invasion and the mass murders then went on?
you don't seem capable of reading. maybe try again, this time don't strawman me sweetie :)
also I sure said a lot more than that, but you re dodging my other points because you cannot argue them. you lost here. thanks for the win
Can you answer the question?
Did you condone the invasion of Kuwait and the war crimes committed by Saddam including mass murder?
You sure did say a lot more then that,.but the Kuwait invasion predates everything else as the main cause to send troops to Iraq.
It was to protect the illegal invaison of Kuwait.
After that Saddam would always be target.
Now the Democrat lead lynching of Gaddafi under Obama and Clinton should cause you anger.
Remeber Hillary said we came, he saw and he died and then cracks up.
What was the reason to hire rebels to take out gadaffi?
What was the exit strategy after taking out their leader?
It was a hit and run and Libya became and is currently a terrorist hot bed.
you re trying to change the subject because you have nothing
WAIT. Kuwait was the MAIN REASON for the 2001 invasion of IRAQ???????????????? ha the historical reimagination.
"Now the Democrat lead lynching of Gaddafi under Obama and Clinton should cause you anger. "
yes it does they should be charged for that illegal war too. damn that is going to put a wrench in your shit huh? I think you won't reply because you guys are sad little partisan cowards.
How many years were each war faught,?
shareI love your thinking!!20 years!
so lets times 45 billion by twenty!
oh wait :s 900 billion..... still about 5.5 trillion dollars short :s
that's without even going into Ukraine being an ally fighting a dictatorship. while Iraq was legitimately an illegal war. even the US's biggest allies including Canada refused to offer substantial support for that war knowing it was one big lie.
care to try another angle I can own you on?
How many years ukarine war?
How many years Iraq?
How many years Afghanistan?
can you not read?
I will take this as a mental defence mechanism to ignore the facts. thank you for the easy win
Can you not answer the question?
Put a number of years next to each war. Lets try again.
Ukarine war
Iraq war
Afghanistan war
We don't even have troops in Ukraine. Not sure why anyone on the right can complain about our level of involvement.
shareits about constant outrage. if they do something 10X worse just ignore it or like one guy above do historical reimagining where for 20 years republicans were actually against those costly wars.
then try and compare a justified protection and arming of our ally against a dictorship. as the same as an illegal war and a failed middle eastern war.
Because we're throwing billions down a black hole! Are you fucking retarded???
shareCountry is almost in a recession
Just came out of a pandemic
Inflation is hurting everyone's wallet
Infrastructure like roads, bridges, oil pipelines, and clean water pipelines are becoming ancient.
Hard time to finance a war.
And what does physical money actually do?
Buy more troops
so you are going to start fighting corporate tax cuts, getting the biggest corporations to stop tax dodging and same with the rich? welcome to the left.
shareI already did. your lack of literacy is not my fault.
I can use smaller words if you like?
No words, just show the numbers. Man your special ed....
shareNo words, just show the numbers. Man YOUR special ed....
Just show the numbers. Man YOUR special ed....
Man YOUR special ed....
YOUR special ed....
YOUR
that explains why you can't scroll up and ascertain the information I already provided to your question
So you agree with Trump because he also was very against the Iraq war you Illogical Socialist
shareyes 100% of course I agree with trumps statements on the Iraq war. its one of many things hes said I agree with. but see, im not a partisan hack like you. I actually think for myself where you wait to be told.
its why you were prob screaming in 2001 how anyone who didn't support the war was a traitor. and now that daddy trump told you bush is bad you agree with him. you are essentially a mindless bot.
What do you mean that you are not a partisan hack? You are a socialist. Its all over the boards here. Confirmed and all
shareim a socialist>? where did I ever advocate for a command economy? yes im just like the USSR because I want a slightly higher corporate, capital gains and wealth tax.
I remember all those debates in the USSR about changing their tax rate on their stock market right?
Everyone on these boards knows you are a socialist. Just look at your handle
shareyes im on the left so "da socialist!". and you are on the right so you are a nazi correct?
you didn't actually address my arguement and me pointing out the absurdity of calling someone a socialist because they slightly disagree on degrees on things like tax rates. im actually okay with extremely low or no corporate taxes, but only for genuine small businesses.
stimulate actual entrepreneurs rather than just reward massive corporations.
All leftists are socialists and illogical. Please change your handle accordingly
shareno they aren't,. just like all conservatives aren't fascist, or anarcho capitalists. there's a huge variation across the political spectrum.
come on you are showing you are dumber than a kid who finished a grade 10 civics class! you are so stupid it hurts to contemplate how someone can be so confident in their ignorance and stupidity.