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From the Conservative National Review: "Trump's Disgraceful Endgame"

posted 4 years ago by NVF (851)
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There are legitimate issues to consider after the 2020 vote about the security of mail-in ballots and the process of counting votes (some jurisdictions, bizarrely, take weeks to complete their initial count), but make no mistake: The chief driver of the post-election contention of the past several weeks is the petulant refusal of one man to accept the verdict of the American people.

Almost nothing that the Trump team has alleged has withstood the slightest scrutiny. In particular, it’s hard to find much that is remotely true in the president’s Twitter feed these days. It is full of already-debunked claims and crackpot conspiracy theories about Dominion voting systems.

Flawed and dishonest assertions...pollute the public discourse and mislead good people who make the mistake of believing things said by the president of the United States.

Getting defeated in a national election is a blow to the ego of even the most thick-skinned politicians and inevitably engenders personal feelings of bitterness and anger. What America has long expected is that losing candidates swallow those feelings and at least pretend to be gracious. If Trump’s not capable of it, he should at least stop waging war on the outcome.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/trump-election-fraud-disgraceful-endgame/

[–] TexasJack (12516) 4 years ago

NR are weak conservatives. Ready to surrender at the first sign of trouble.

[–] dackbar (555) 4 years ago

Yeah, rise up my brother! Show the man they can't take your guns away and tell you what to do!

[–] Keelai (34969) 4 years ago

Trump nor Trumpism have nothing to do with conservatism.

[–] chilidoggg (14326) 4 years ago

I get a kick out of the fact that Trump will rail against Fox News, but not a peep about the many articles NR has printed against him. Mouth-breathers can't read. NR is from an era when New York, California, Illinois were solid GOP strongholds, where there were manufacturers and when you reduced regulations and taxes CAPITAL actually produced higher returns.

Now all the red state knuckle draggers are clamoring for more stimulus to save their livestock sex tourism industries.

[–] JoWilli (20274) 4 years ago

remember when the left said the election was rigged and trump was going to cheat to win? i think there should be a Mueller Report 2.0. this election needs to be investigated for fraud.

[–] beermonkey70 (282) 4 years ago

they were referring to Russia using social media to spread misinformation to influence voters not voter fraud.

If you were going to "rig" an election you do it by influencing voters with misinformation. That's very effective.

The idea that you can rig an national election with voter fraud is nonsense. To0 high-risk/low-reward to work n a national level.

[–] brux (14729) 4 years ago

I can't stand Donald Trump. There is virtually nothing I like about him personally or as President.

BUT, the one thing I cannot fault him for is to complain and assume bad things about our election system and demand investigation. BUT, the time to investigate and change our election system is not right in the middle of an election when passions are high and people are at their most partisan - that will never work for anything other than division and civil war. It needs to be done between elections in an objective non-partisan way - if possible.

The problem is that most of the existing bad things are connected to Republicans. A few older stories like Kennedy's win because of Mayor Daily in Chicago implicate Democrats, but the point is that we call could benefit immensely from a better election system.

I would not have been contemptuous of Al Gore pressing his issue in 2000 - because he actually won that race in both electoral and the popular vote. The whole history of the 21st century would have been much, much different. Similar thing with Kerry - and both those elections where heavy into Republicans disenfranchising black people in swing states and other dirty tricks. The GOP is neck deep in corruption and dirty tricks. They need them to ever win anything.

That said, there is a limit to the criticism of the election system and when it becomes a character defect and paranoia, especially when Trump goes on an on about things that are known and the same as when he supposedly won in 2016. He is a man with deep mental problems, character defects, and very little leadership ability, understand of history, understanding of the Presidency or American government. The sooner he is gone, the better.

But, there will be another Donald Trump pushed by Republicans with the same or newer dirty tricks, and we all must be on guard for that, because next time it will not be do obvious. We also have tens of millions of Red State haters of this country who think we'd benefit from a fall of our government and anarchy.

I am not ready to give up on America yet, but first we all have to realize the truth about this country, and what is broken that needs to be fixed.

[–] HarlemEagle42 (17850) 4 years ago

Oh now they're concerned about flawed and dishonest assertions? National Review can fuck off! They're worried now that Trump's antics might affect the Georgia runoff election and hand the Senate over to the Democrats.