My problem with Spectre

Verily I say unto thee...it is certainly substantially better than QoS which is a disgrace to the art of film-making.

He crashed into a house and could have killed innocent people.You mean that barn/woodshed thing? https://youtu.be/gLlZsi_7Mvg?t=3m29s

Yeah, people wouldn't likely live there.

Rome, it cannot be that emptyYou mean that chase where they show at least six other driven cars and countless parked ones, where Bond runs into another driver and also a parked car? https://youtu.be/gKOq-AqPF5Q?t=3m16s

How much more showing of Bond colliding with pedestrians do you require?

To be fair, I do think they are going for a sparse, focused stylistic Bondverse onscreen throughout SP. They did the large crowd stuff in Mexico, but still turn it into a surrealistic drill down on Bond walking across the cityscape in broad daylight with a Glock 17 without attracting attention, etc. Is it like "real life?" No not really. I would say they are going for a fantasy style throughout...thematically to tie to Bond motifs such as SPECTRE having volcanoes but Japan not noticing and Drax having space shuttle fleets and nobody noticing and Islands and space stations and empty Rio gondolas and empty excursions to the pyramids and empty trains in the underground etc. Bond careening through New York and Paris and so on and nobody ever getting hurt.

Is it the way the real world looks? Not quite. Its fantasyland that allows us to focus on our adventure.

Sometimes the style is different and we get junkanoos and collateral damage during horse races in Spain and different FULL trains in the underground etc. Im not sure that stuff makes it all better, though I would agree with anyone who thinks that such "crowd" theming makes the Bond story or even mere scene feel more grounded and less mythic, and vice versa. And some folks prefer one or the other.

The train fight scene was great but how can no one hear the gunshots and the fight? The police would have showed up. Perhaps they did. Perhaps Bond even had to put in a call to M to pull strings to "get away with it" as is the typical glossed over storypoint here. Or perhaps they went to pains to show you that the bullets didn't fire until they were isolated in a cargo car, on a clearly less than full train...where the people seemed to not want to spectate but instead flee. Thus, maybe nobody heard so now its just a fight/mess not even a murder which Bond might gloss over with a bribe etc. There are too many Bondly ways out of this quagmire to even count.

The real question is: you have a choice between wanting to watch Bond make cell phone calls to clean up logistics...or have his love scene. It's really up to you which one you wanted to see more, and which one you'd edit out.

How can Bond find the secret room at the Hotel? They showed you.

Why did Bond take the ring out in the helicopter?He noticed its significance to the other folks in the Sciarra meeting he just spied on through his scope. So, its shown a clue with ties to the bad guys he's investigating, not just any old ring. Not to mention, its weird, like, say, a Tong symbol tattoo. And Bond is a bit prescient at times; at least he has instincts etc that kick in (and out).

These don't really qualify as very confusing; it seems you didn't like it and want to act as if things were incomprehensible so as to justify. But, honestly, such "analysis" tells more about the analyzer than the product. There are better ways to lead to a punchline that a given movie is not as good as some other movies to you.


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pking-2 thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. This makes perfect sense. Can you explain me this scene:

The last scene, how did Bond know it was safe to jump out with Madeleine?

Also, was it useless for Bond to espace from Blofeld men before entering the MI6 old building because it seems like as if Blofeld was going to release him while giving him two choices.

The last scene, how did Bond know it was safe to jump out with Madeleine?
Because Bond noticed -- and we, the audience, are shown -- the debris-catching net that is often installed in buildings slated for demolition (to protect workers).

To pking-2's comments above about the Rome car chase and the lack of traffic, I would add this:

Since the SPECTRE meeting began at midnight and Blofeld doesn't show up until it's well underway, the chase takes place sometime between one and two o'clock (AM) in the morning.



Send her to the snakes!

Bond would probably agree with you that having to free himself from le goons was essentially useless.

But there's no way for him to know that he was probably going to be let go anyways so Blofeld can do his little game.

The building was going to be imploded so the netting was already up by the construction crew. Bond had noticed it on his way in, and I think the audience is given a chance to see it, too. Now, how does he know it will work? Well that's just Bondliness. He's just good that way, and lucky, and also just a bit magic. I would not recommend trying such stuff in real life. Nor, really, most of the stunts he walks away from.

it useless for Bond to espace from Blofeld men before entering the MI6 old building because it seems like as if Blofeld was going to release him while giving him two choicesMaybe so. But still, playing the "two choices" game while monitored by two armed guards is a worse lot than playing the "two choices" game all alone while Blofeld flees, facilitating his rescue/escape/pursuit. Didn't hurt his chances at least; killing or beating down bad guys is a generally good Bond rule to follow, no matter what comes next.

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Thus, maybe nobody heard so now its just a fight/mess not even a murder which Bond might gloss over with a bribe etc. There are too many Bondly ways out of this quagmire to even count.
I would've loved it if they had included a quick little scene showing Bond paying off the train conductor and staff by pulling out strips of gold sovereigns secreted in his attaché case (a la FRWL).


Send her to the snakes!

That would have worked. And been cool.

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